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Re: What's your TEP?
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:31 am
by frerichs5
tstafford wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:39 pm
Thanks folks. I'm playing around with the math to see the impact. I'll report back in a day or two. My hypothesis is that folks underestimate the impact of the TEP. This matters for drafting but more importantly for player valuation and flex considerations.
I agree. We do 2ppr on TEs.
There are 14 TEs that are producing the same (or better) points per game as the top 24 WRs. That’s nothing to scoff at in my opinion.
There are 26 TEs averaging over 10ppg. While 10 points may not be a lot, you’d be silly to ignore them when looking at flexes in my opinion.
Re: What's your TEP?
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:59 am
by FantasyFreak
1.6 TEP if their YPR is 10 or over. It's tiered (tiers), the highest other positions can get is 1 PPR.
The also get 1 point per receiving first down, 0.75 for rushing first down, vs RB and WR's that are 0.75 for a rushing, 0.25 for a receiving.
0.125 points per yard vs 0.1 for other positions.
Re: What's your TEP?
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:30 pm
by BellCow
FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:59 am
1.6 TEP if their YPR is 10 or over. It's tiered (tiers), the highest other positions can get is 1 PPR.
The also get 1 point per receiving first down, 0.75 for rushing first down, vs RB and WR's that are 0.75 for a rushing, 0.25 for a receiving.
0.125 points per yard vs 0.1 for other positions.
Do you have any backtesting for this?
Re: What's your TEP?
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:47 pm
by FantasyFreak
BellCow wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:30 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:59 am
1.6 TEP if their YPR is 10 or over. It's tiered (tiers), the highest other positions can get is 1 PPR.
The also get 1 point per receiving first down, 0.75 for rushing first down, vs RB and WR's that are 0.75 for a rushing, 0.25 for a receiving.
0.125 points per yard vs 0.1 for other positions.
Do you have any backtesting for this?
When I set up the league, I tested it out for prior years stats. Kelce and Hock are 10 and 11 in scoring this year, and that includes QB's. QB scoring is different too, it focuses more on their passing, and less on their rushing (thus the league name)
https://www43.myfantasyleague.com/2023/home/54574#0
Re: What's your TEP?
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:05 pm
by jordanzs
BellCow wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:30 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:59 am
1.6 TEP if their YPR is 10 or over. It's tiered (tiers), the highest other positions can get is 1 PPR.
The also get 1 point per receiving first down, 0.75 for rushing first down, vs RB and WR's that are 0.75 for a rushing, 0.25 for a receiving.
0.125 points per yard vs 0.1 for other positions.
Do you have any backtesting for this?
Also check out FantasyFreak’s scoring as it was ported over to a dynasty best ball league of mine:
https://www43.myfantasyleague.com/2023/home/51859
Re: What's your TEP?
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:09 pm
by repkllrs
killer_of_giants wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:02 am
i try to avoid any form of ppr as much as i can. not that easy, but tiered shite is where i draw the line. i don't care about artificially give a "better" (but in reality only "different") balance to positions, it is what it is, it's the same for everyone.
i do play in a start 2 TEs though: most players undervalued TEs in the startup because there was no premium, but they're realizing their mistakes now and TEs are hard to buy, and having two good ones gives you a real edge.
Funny. My favorite league is tiered.
SF
RB 1 pt reception
WR 1.5 pt reception
TE 2 pt reception
Look out for those Cade Ottons
Re: What's your TEP?
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:10 pm
by jordanzs
repkllrs wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:09 pm
killer_of_giants wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:02 am
i try to avoid any form of ppr as much as i can. not that easy, but tiered shite is where i draw the line. i don't care about artificially give a "better" (but in reality only "different") balance to positions, it is what it is, it's the same for everyone.
i do play in a start 2 TEs though: most players undervalued TEs in the startup because there was no premium, but they're realizing their mistakes now and TEs are hard to buy, and having two good ones gives you a real edge.
Funny. My favorite league is tiered.
SF
RB 1 pt reception
WR 1.5 pt reception
TE 2 pt reception
Look out for those Cade Ottons
Word up Ken! I hope all is well & I miss sparring against you on the fantasy field. Come join one of our dynasty best ball leagues next year
Re: What's your TEP?
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:31 pm
by waynesworld1234
My TEP is 1.5 PPR, but the league is 1/2 PPR so the TE's have 3x PPR scoring. I've oscillated on the importance of TE over the last couple of years. The top 5-10 TEs keep pace with the top RBs and WRs, but when you get 20+ down the list the TEs still fall behind.