What's your TEP?
What's your TEP?
More and more discussions seem to include TEP. Curious about what types of TEP people are playing. My TEP league is 1.5 but I'm not sure if that's representative or not.
Appreciate you participating.
Appreciate you participating.
Re: What's your TEP?
I don't participate in any TEP-leagues. While I understand the concept, wouldn't it push more value towards TE's in general making it a 2TE requirement instead? TEP is mostly pushing value at the top TE's?
Re: What's your TEP?
I find with 1.75+ it allows me to fit some TEs into the flex in a pinch or during byes
1.5 definitely skews towards just the top guys
Re: What's your TEP?
Pretty much. Only a handful of guys get more than 5 or so targets a game. So even in 2pt premium, it's only an extra 2-4 points per game. The real value add to all TE is start 2. That makes the "fringe TE1" an actual usable piece as once you get to the 24th TE, its very grim
Re: What's your TEP?
1.5, but I would prefer 1.75 or even 2.
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Re: What's your TEP?
Two leagues are 2 PPR, one is 1.5PPR + .15 pts/yd-rec). A 1 yard catch is worth 1.65 pts.
This means top TEs are absolute gold… and the TE10-12 are in the same range as WR15-20. Definitely forces a different philosophy than a non-TEPrem league.
This means top TEs are absolute gold… and the TE10-12 are in the same range as WR15-20. Definitely forces a different philosophy than a non-TEPrem league.
Gopher Two
PPR SF, WR & TE Premium (WR 1.2 PPR , TE 1.5 PPR), 10 total starters, 1 QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Mahomes, Prescott, Mayfield
RB: Hall, Pacheco, Jacobs, Connor, Chubb, Mattison
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, Flowers, CSutton, JJeudy, Slayton, Iosivas
TE: McBride, DSchultz, Musgrave, Kraft, MGesicki
2024: 1.02, 2.02
2022 and 2023 League Champ
SafeLeague #1 (12 team, SF, 2.0 PPR TE Prem). 10 total starters 1 QB, 1SF (QB/TE/RB/WR), 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Caleb, Purdy, Levis, Penix
RB: Pacheco, Estime, Vaughn
WR: Nabers, Coleman, Downs, EMoore, Jeudy, Burton, MMims, MWilson
TE: Hock, Kincaid, Pitts, Sinnott, Mayer
2025: 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds, 2 4ths
SafeLeague #2
QB: Caleb, Richardson, Purdy, JJMcCarthy
RB: literal ZERO RB (for now)
WR: Nabers, Worthy, McConkey, Brian Thomas Jr, Pearsall, Mims, Burton, Mingo, Toney, Skyy, Iosivas
TE: LaPorta, Kincaid, McBride, Bowers, Mayer, Musgrave, Schoonmaker
2025: 3 1sts, 2 2nds
PPR SF, WR & TE Premium (WR 1.2 PPR , TE 1.5 PPR), 10 total starters, 1 QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Mahomes, Prescott, Mayfield
RB: Hall, Pacheco, Jacobs, Connor, Chubb, Mattison
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, Flowers, CSutton, JJeudy, Slayton, Iosivas
TE: McBride, DSchultz, Musgrave, Kraft, MGesicki
2024: 1.02, 2.02
2022 and 2023 League Champ
SafeLeague #1 (12 team, SF, 2.0 PPR TE Prem). 10 total starters 1 QB, 1SF (QB/TE/RB/WR), 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Caleb, Purdy, Levis, Penix
RB: Pacheco, Estime, Vaughn
WR: Nabers, Coleman, Downs, EMoore, Jeudy, Burton, MMims, MWilson
TE: Hock, Kincaid, Pitts, Sinnott, Mayer
2025: 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds, 2 4ths
SafeLeague #2
QB: Caleb, Richardson, Purdy, JJMcCarthy
RB: literal ZERO RB (for now)
WR: Nabers, Worthy, McConkey, Brian Thomas Jr, Pearsall, Mims, Burton, Mingo, Toney, Skyy, Iosivas
TE: LaPorta, Kincaid, McBride, Bowers, Mayer, Musgrave, Schoonmaker
2025: 3 1sts, 2 2nds
Re: What's your TEP?
I don't do TE premium leagues. IMO it doesn't really move the needle, so why play games. If you want an advantage at TE, you have to pay a premium in draft or trade capital. Format doesn't really change that much for me.
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts
Re: What's your TEP?
Thanks folks. I'm playing around with the math to see the impact. I'll report back in a day or two. My hypothesis is that folks underestimate the impact of the TEP. This matters for drafting but more importantly for player valuation and flex considerations.
Re: What's your TEP?
Zero. I have Hock. He is my tep
12 Team, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1Flex, D, K, 10 Bench
1PPR, 0.5 point per carry.
Burrow, Richardson
AJ Brown, DJMoore, G Wilson, T Higgens, Sutton, Tillman, Melton
King Henry, Bijan, Pacheco, Mixon, Ford, JK
Hockenson, Musgrave
Random Kicker
Niners
Picks in 2024 - #15, #22, #23, #27
1PPR, 0.5 point per carry.
Burrow, Richardson
AJ Brown, DJMoore, G Wilson, T Higgens, Sutton, Tillman, Melton
King Henry, Bijan, Pacheco, Mixon, Ford, JK
Hockenson, Musgrave
Random Kicker
Niners
Picks in 2024 - #15, #22, #23, #27
Re: What's your TEP?
FantasyFreak cracked the code on how to best set up a TE Premium format. It’s complicated though and not for the stagnant dynasty player
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Re: What's your TEP?
i try to avoid any form of ppr as much as i can. not that easy, but tiered shite is where i draw the line. i don't care about artificially give a "better" (but in reality only "different") balance to positions, it is what it is, it's the same for everyone.
i do play in a start 2 TEs though: most players undervalued TEs in the startup because there was no premium, but they're realizing their mistakes now and TEs are hard to buy, and having two good ones gives you a real edge.
i do play in a start 2 TEs though: most players undervalued TEs in the startup because there was no premium, but they're realizing their mistakes now and TEs are hard to buy, and having two good ones gives you a real edge.
Re: What's your TEP?
Do you play in leagues that have different tiers for passing vs rushing & receiving TDs?killer_of_giants wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:02 am i try to avoid any form of ppr as much as i can. not that easy, but tiered shite is where i draw the line. i don't care about artificially give a "better" (but in reality only "different") balance to positions, it is what it is, it's the same for everyone.
i do play in a start 2 TEs though: most players undervalued TEs in the startup because there was no premium, but they're realizing their mistakes now and TEs are hard to buy, and having two good ones gives you a real edge.
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Re: What's your TEP?
This would be a great 6th grade science fair project. Make sure you buy the right kind of glue for your poster board!tstafford wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:39 pm Thanks folks. I'm playing around with the math to see the impact. I'll report back in a day or two. My hypothesis is that folks underestimate the impact of the TEP. This matters for drafting but more importantly for player valuation and flex considerations.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Re: What's your TEP?
only one (which is already ppr so funk it). i don't like that either.Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:10 amDo you play in leagues that have different tiers for passing vs rushing & receiving TDs?killer_of_giants wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:02 am i try to avoid any form of ppr as much as i can. not that easy, but tiered shite is where i draw the line. i don't care about artificially give a "better" (but in reality only "different") balance to positions, it is what it is, it's the same for everyone.
i do play in a start 2 TEs though: most players undervalued TEs in the startup because there was no premium, but they're realizing their mistakes now and TEs are hard to buy, and having two good ones gives you a real edge.
Re: What's your TEP?
Mostly tests my abacus skills. Multiplying by 1.75 takes some real bead sliding talent.TheTroll wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:33 amThis would be a great 6th grade science fair project. Make sure you buy the right kind of glue for your poster board!tstafford wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:39 pm Thanks folks. I'm playing around with the math to see the impact. I'll report back in a day or two. My hypothesis is that folks underestimate the impact of the TEP. This matters for drafting but more importantly for player valuation and flex considerations.