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Re: Week 6 Discussion

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:51 pm
by FantasyFreak
Jalen Tolbert channeling his inner Leon Lett.

Re: Week 6 Discussion

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:56 pm
by j4pac
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:51 pm Jalen Tolbert channeling his inner Leon Lett.
It feels like yesterday when he was being drafted to be the Cowboys #2 WR. Now…he is closer to being unemployed

Re: Week 6 Discussion

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:24 pm
by 81-
Hey. They finally called Johnston's name

Re: Week 6 Discussion

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:35 pm
by FantasyFreak
Dak had a good game tonight. Would have loved to see him hit Pollard there late, for the TD, but he outplayed Herbert tonight, and kept a clean sheet with turnovers. Made some really good throws, and created outside of structure, too. Good bounce back for him.

Re: Week 6 Discussion

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:19 am
by tstafford
oneson9192 wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:33 pm I'd take a late '24 second for Quentin Johnson if I had any shares and let them call me a panic-seller. Unbelievable how little this offense can involve everyone but him. Off a bye. With no Mike Williams. When the run game isn't working.
I wouldn't blame you. It's too early to cast anything in stone, but if I had to bet on one of the high profile '23 rookies being a bust I'd choose QJ. I didn't like him predraft but had to admit that the landing spot and draft capital were both positive.

Although he went in the first in most drafts, he probably should have been a second round pick. So getting a second now seems like a decent outcome if you are done with him. And I bet you could get this in most leagues.

However I bet you get that price even if he has a few more bad weeks. The smart move is probably to hold for a minute, see if anything improves and if not, shop him.

Re: Week 6 Discussion

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:59 am
by Anteaters
oneson9192 wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:33 pm I'd take a late '24 second for Quentin Johnson if I had any shares and let them call me a panic-seller. Unbelievable how little this offense can involve everyone but him. Off a bye. With no Mike Williams. When the run game isn't working.
I'm with you. So, so disappointing. I'm also ready to admit my mistake and move on. This low level of usage on a team that could clearly use someone ready to step up is a huge red flag for me.

Re: Week 6 Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:42 pm
by Straycatz2
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:56 pm Correct. Hoyer would likely start.
https://www.raidersbeat.com/raiders-hav ... cant-play/

Re: Week 6 Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:19 pm
by wickerkat1212
Straycatz2 wrote: Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:42 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:56 pm Correct. Hoyer would likely start.
https://www.raidersbeat.com/raiders-hav ... cant-play/
AOC. Yep. That's what I thought.

Re: Week 6 Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:31 pm
by FantasyFreak
wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:19 pm
Straycatz2 wrote: Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:42 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:56 pm Correct. Hoyer would likely start.
https://www.raidersbeat.com/raiders-hav ... cant-play/
AOC. Yep. That's what I thought.
That hasn't been confirmed by anyone in the coaching staff. I expect them to keep it secret as long as possible, for strategic advantage. I'd prefer AOC, but am not convinced until I see it.

Re: Week 6 Discussion

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:30 am
by Jigga94
AOC is inevitable

Re: Week 6 Discussion

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:03 pm
by frerichs5
Anteaters wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:29 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:56 pm
frerichs5 wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:46 pm

I don’t see the logic behind this. If they viewed him as the current backup, he’d have been the #2 and not emergency QB wouldn’t he? If he’s viewed as the starter if Jimmy is out, I don’t see the point in labeling him emergency QB so he can’t play.
Correct. Hoyer would likely start.
Last time Jimmy missed a game, AOC was the starter and played well enough. Don't overthink this.
Whoops. Hoyer it is

Re: Week 6 Discussion

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:28 pm
by mild
wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:19 pm
Straycatz2 wrote: Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:42 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:56 pm Correct. Hoyer would likely start.
https://www.raidersbeat.com/raiders-hav ... cant-play/
AOC. Yep. That's what I thought.
Once again, a good lesson in not getting ahead of your skis too fast based on un-substantiated fan blogs that have no actual source and are running on "vibes based insight".
The Athletic’s Dianna Russini reports Brian Hoyer will start for the Raiders in Week 7 against the Bears.

Jimmy Garoppolo is out with a back injury this week. Rookie quarterback Aidan O’Connell previously got the start when Garoppolo missed time. O’Connell struggled in his lone start, throwing for 238 scoreless yards and an interception. Hoyer entered the lineup when Garoppolo went down mid-game in Week 6. He played well, completing 6-of-10 passes for 102 yards with no interceptions or sacks. He will be tasked with simply taking care of the ball and getting out of Chicago with a win versus UDFA rookie Tyson Bagent at quarterback. Though Hoyer is a downgrade for the offense, Davante Adams and Jakobi Meyers remain starting fantasy options for Week 7.
It's Hoyer again.

(I like this for Michael Mayer fwiw.)

Re: Week 6 Discussion

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:36 pm
by Jigga94
mild wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:28 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:19 pm
AOC. Yep. That's what I thought.
Once again, a good lesson in not getting ahead of your skis too fast based on un-substantiated fan blogs that have no actual source and are running on "vibes based insight".
The Athletic’s Dianna Russini reports Brian Hoyer will start for the Raiders in Week 7 against the Bears.

Jimmy Garoppolo is out with a back injury this week. Rookie quarterback Aidan O’Connell previously got the start when Garoppolo missed time. O’Connell struggled in his lone start, throwing for 238 scoreless yards and an interception. Hoyer entered the lineup when Garoppolo went down mid-game in Week 6. He played well, completing 6-of-10 passes for 102 yards with no interceptions or sacks. He will be tasked with simply taking care of the ball and getting out of Chicago with a win versus UDFA rookie Tyson Bagent at quarterback. Though Hoyer is a downgrade for the offense, Davante Adams and Jakobi Meyers remain starting fantasy options for Week 7.
It's Hoyer again.

(I like this for Michael Mayer fwiw.)
Mayer and Jacobs up. Meyers down

Re: Week 6 Discussion

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:54 pm
by Anteaters
frerichs5 wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:03 pm
Anteaters wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:29 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:56 pm

Correct. Hoyer would likely start.
Last time Jimmy missed a game, AOC was the starter and played well enough. Don't overthink this.
Whoops. Hoyer it is
Poor stupid little McDaniels. It's like he's trying to get fired.

Re: Week 6 Discussion

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:30 am
by FantasyFreak
wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:19 pm
Straycatz2 wrote: Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:42 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:56 pm Correct. Hoyer would likely start.
https://www.raidersbeat.com/raiders-hav ... cant-play/
AOC. Yep. That's what I thought.
You thought wrong. :lol: