...and Sony Michel isn't even a JAG anymore. Why not see if Spiller can take the handoff, and just fall forward? Surely, if he can do that, he'd average more than Michel's 2.6 ypc.Ice wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:56 amHe is a JAG and they know it. He can't even win in practice that's why.spider321 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:40 am Anyone know why Spiller isn't getting a chance to even be active on game days? The Chargers cannot run the ball, at all. As a team, they have a total of 258 rushing yards in 4 games, and a terrible 2.7 yards per carry.
Spiller may not be the answer, but why not find out?
Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
Spiller could look so bad that they are confident he can’t just fall forwardspider321 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 10:03 am...and Sony Michel isn't even a JAG anymore. Why not see if Spiller can take the handoff, and just fall forward? Surely, if he can do that, he'd average more than Michel's 2.6 ypc.Ice wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:56 amHe is a JAG and they know it. He can't even win in practice that's why.spider321 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:40 am Anyone know why Spiller isn't getting a chance to even be active on game days? The Chargers cannot run the ball, at all. As a team, they have a total of 258 rushing yards in 4 games, and a terrible 2.7 yards per carry.
Spiller may not be the answer, but why not find out?
Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
He was dropped in one of my leagues and to be honest, I didn't bother trying to get him. Would've meant dropping Warren or Shakir probably.
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
If the line is the problem, changing the running backs doesn’t really fix anything. They have a new guard and a new tackle and one of their tackles just hit the IR. It could be that the coaching staff feel that the line just needs more time to gel and that the running back production is a result of poor line play rather than poor running back play.spider321 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:55 amThat would be an acceptable answer, if the results through the first month were not so pitiful. I'm not saying Spiller should start, but obviously, what they are doing is not working.frerichs5 wrote: ↑They see him everyday in practice. We don’t. Have to assume they see something they don’t like, or simply believe the other guys are better.spider321 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:40 am Anyone know why Spiller isn't getting a chance to even be active on game days? The Chargers cannot run the ball, at all. As a team, they have a total of 258 rushing yards in 4 games, and a terrible 2.7 yards per carry.
Spiller may not be the answer, but why not find out?
I am reminded of the saying about the definition of insanity.
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
Yep. Especially not one like Spiller. FF owners tend to blame coaches, but the reason for the players not playing is usually pretty straight forward. I never saw the appeal of Spiller. I mean, I know what people say his appeal is, I just never saw it.ericanadian wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:44 pmIf the line is the problem, changing the running backs doesn’t really fix anything. They have a new guard and a new tackle and one of their tackles just hit the IR. It could be that the coaching staff feel that the line just needs more time to gel and that the running back production is a result of poor line play rather than poor running back play.
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
Austin Ekeler did just set a career high in rushing today; 16 carries 173 yards plus a rushing TD 10.8 YPC.
J. Kelly ran it 10 times for 49 yards plus a TD at a 4.9 YPC clip.
J. Kelly ran it 10 times for 49 yards plus a TD at a 4.9 YPC clip.
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
Yes, but what did Sony Michel do?
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
That stud got 1 carry and would have had 1 yard rushing if he wasn't tackled for no gain!
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
And Michel went for zero yards on one carry. He was always the one I couldn’t understand continuing to get run. Kelly had good numbers for the year as a whole and the team had no reason to bail on Ekeler knowing what he’s capable of. It just baffled me that the team would dedicate four roster spots to the running back position and decide that Sony Michel was a guy they should have in one of those spots.
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
He said that in the last post.ericanadian wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:28 pmAnd Michel went for zero yards on one carry. He was always the one I couldn’t understand continuing to get run. Kelly had good numbers for the year as a whole and the team had no reason to bail on Ekeler knowing what he’s capable of. It just baffled me that the team would dedicate four roster spots to the running back position and decide that Sony Michel was a guy they should have in one of those spots.
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
Yes, I started a replace and the walked away to put the kid to bed when he wrote that. I felt the rest of my post was still relevant so posted anyways.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:30 pmHe said that in the last post.ericanadian wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:28 pmAnd Michel went for zero yards on one carry. He was always the one I couldn’t understand continuing to get run. Kelly had good numbers for the year as a whole and the team had no reason to bail on Ekeler knowing what he’s capable of. It just baffled me that the team would dedicate four roster spots to the running back position and decide that Sony Michel was a guy they should have in one of those spots.
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DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
All good. Just wasn't sure if you saw it.ericanadian wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:48 pmYes, I started a replace and the walked away to put the kid to bed when he wrote that. I felt the rest of my post was still relevant so posted anyways.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:30 pmHe said that in the last post.ericanadian wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:28 pm
And Michel went for zero yards on one carry. He was always the one I couldn’t understand continuing to get run. Kelly had good numbers for the year as a whole and the team had no reason to bail on Ekeler knowing what he’s capable of. It just baffled me that the team would dedicate four roster spots to the running back position and decide that Sony Michel was a guy they should have in one of those spots.
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
40th percentile BMI with 4.69 40yd time....
He's undersized AND he's slow. This isn't WR it's RB. Athletics matter. You never should have drafted him.
He's undersized AND he's slow. This isn't WR it's RB. Athletics matter. You never should have drafted him.
Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
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QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
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QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
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QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
A Charger's big season is 9 and 8.Anteaters wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:59 amI think they will later in the season. Right now they're 2-2, still dreaming of a big season, and understandably assume their mega$ RB is the one to lead the way. If the record slides too far away from contention or if Ekeler starts to look terrible, the Chargers will roll out Spiller and see what they have.spider321 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:40 am Anyone know why Spiller isn't getting a chance to even be active on game days? The Chargers cannot run the ball, at all. As a team, they have a total of 258 rushing yards in 4 games, and a terrible 2.7 yards per carry.
Spiller may not be the answer, but why not find out?
Nobody knows if this guy is any good until he suits up in a real game and has some runs. He will get his chance sooner or later.
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