Hyde Trades?
Hyde Trades?
I am thinking of trading away Hyde for a top 4 pick in 2015 draft and a 3.4 in 2015 draft. Good or bad?
Our top 4 picks are lottery, the guy I'm talking to has a 20% chance of getting the #1 pick which would be my pick if I make this trade, this pick also has the potential of being 2nd, 3rd or 4th overall pick... I don't have a 2015 first round pick after I traded it away for Julius Thomas earlier in the season to try and make a playoff push, I failed...
I drafted Carlos Hyde last year in my Dynasty startup league along with Tre Mason, Christine Michael, Andre Ellington and picked up Dan Herron and McKinnon. My RBs were awful this year and I'm wondering if I should try and trade for an early pick in this years draft. Thoughts?
Our top 4 picks are lottery, the guy I'm talking to has a 20% chance of getting the #1 pick which would be my pick if I make this trade, this pick also has the potential of being 2nd, 3rd or 4th overall pick... I don't have a 2015 first round pick after I traded it away for Julius Thomas earlier in the season to try and make a playoff push, I failed...
I drafted Carlos Hyde last year in my Dynasty startup league along with Tre Mason, Christine Michael, Andre Ellington and picked up Dan Herron and McKinnon. My RBs were awful this year and I'm wondering if I should try and trade for an early pick in this years draft. Thoughts?
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Re: Hyde Trades?
Well, unless you can get Gordon or Gurley, I don't like it. Hyde should start this year, and you are thin at RB. You are good at receiver, so I would stick with Hyde, personally. I would wait until you know what pick your getting to be able to nab one of the two best RB's in this class, if you want to make the trade. Ellington is an iffy commodity, and other than Mason and Ellington, there are no guarantees with your other RB's seeing the field. If you are sold on Cooper and Parker, then I guess it's worth considering, since Josh Gordon will now be doing nothing for you, but then you are even thinner at RB.
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Re: Hyde Trades?
I would explore if michael would be enough . I would not trade hyde for the 1:4 before it was on the clock.
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Re: Hyde Trades?
Michael can fetch a top 4 pick??
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Re: Hyde Trades?
doubt it but there are still a few fanboys out there and the other owner obviously likes rbs w/ potential ... just a suggestionSwampdonkey17 wrote:Michael can fetch a top 4 pick??
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Re: Hyde Trades?
I would trade Hyde for that, but that's me personally. I'm pretty certain SF will draft another back, the only question is how early. Hyde's situation is setting him up to be this years Gio, and he showed less than Gio did his rookie year (clearly I'm not talking about their style of play, but situation).
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Re: Hyde Trades?
with the uncertainty with Hyde's situation and a 20% chance of landing the 1.1 (and better odds of landing the 1.2 or 1.3), I would do this
getting the 3.4 pick also give you another "dart" to throw at a RB in the draft
getting the 3.4 pick also give you another "dart" to throw at a RB in the draft
Re: Hyde Trades?
Given Hyde situation I think we are at a point where trading him for 1.1/1.2/1.3/1.4 will be consider as a huge win or huge loss in 10 month.
If you are willing to pull the trigger, keep in mind that your first round pick could be a nice asset to trade for a proven RB a few days/weeks before the draft.
If you are willing to pull the trigger, keep in mind that your first round pick could be a nice asset to trade for a proven RB a few days/weeks before the draft.
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Re: Hyde Trades?
I'd do it. If it becomes the 1.1, that is awesome value! If it's 1.4, I still think it's a fair trade. Hyde could be "the guy" next year, but there is still a chance he isn't, just like any of the rookie picks. But the closer it gets to your draft, the more value that pick is going to get.
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Re: Hyde Trades?
Gio can't run between the tackles, that's why he lost his starting job to Hill, so the style of play has everything to do with his situation. Hyde can definitely run between the tackles. The 49ers traded up in the 2nd round to get him, they are going to give him every opportunity this year. Watch his TD run against the Saints, or the one vs Arizona. He was lighting up the Seahawks to the tune of 55 yards on 6 carries before he got hurt near the end of the year. He is a solid NFL back, I don't see what you're seeing. Part of the reason Cincy drafted a RB in the 2nd was because they weren't completely confident Gio could be a workhorse type of back, due to size, and style. I doubt the 49ers address the RB position in the same way Cincy does. The 49ers are more needy at receiver/secondary to name a few positions.thebeast wrote:I would trade Hyde for that, but that's me personally. I'm pretty certain SF will draft another back, the only question is how early. Hyde's situation is setting him up to be this years Gio, and he showed less than Gio did his rookie year (clearly I'm not talking about their style of play, but situation).
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Re: Hyde Trades?
I would take a top 4 for Hyde. Let's say gore comes back, we have a cmike situation. Value is in flux.
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Without attempting to derail the thread, if Chudzinski gets the OC position in SF, which he is reported to be the frontrunner, what impact does that have on the 49ers run game? Anyone more knowledgeable than I have a clue? Is the line well suited to it? Is Hyde?
This could greatly affect Hyde's value and be a big question mark or boon for him depending on the answers, and I think it would be good to discuss ahead of any determinations for a trade..
This could greatly affect Hyde's value and be a big question mark or boon for him depending on the answers, and I think it would be good to discuss ahead of any determinations for a trade..
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Re: Hyde Trades?
Yeah, I can cherry pick plays for Gio the year before too where he looked like a stud and was being used on the goal line... Maybe I shouldn't beat around the bush, Hyde's body of work wasn't very impressive reglardless of how or where they drafted him. They spent a 2nd or 3rd on LaMichael and that didn't seem to concern them too much when he was inactive on gamedays. I think they pick another back as that's what they do. There is too much talent in this years rb class that even a day 3 rb will have a shot to take the lead role away from an underwhelming Hyde.FantasyFreak wrote:Gio can't run between the tackles, that's why he lost his starting job to Hill, so the style of play has everything to do with his situation. Hyde can definitely run between the tackles. The 49ers traded up in the 2nd round to get him, they are going to give him every opportunity this year. Watch his TD run against the Saints, or the one vs Arizona. He was lighting up the Seahawks to the tune of 55 yards on 6 carries before he got hurt near the end of the year. He is a solid NFL back, I don't see what you're seeing. Part of the reason Cincy drafted a RB in the 2nd was because they weren't completely confident Gio could be a workhorse type of back, due to size, and style. I doubt the 49ers address the RB position in the same way Cincy does. The 49ers are more needy at receiver/secondary to name a few positions.thebeast wrote:I would trade Hyde for that, but that's me personally. I'm pretty certain SF will draft another back, the only question is how early. Hyde's situation is setting him up to be this years Gio, and he showed less than Gio did his rookie year (clearly I'm not talking about their style of play, but situation).
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Re: Hyde Trades?
I agree with the previous poster to an extent about the draft position not being a big factor for the niners , for 1 reason the niners for the last several have stock piled picks . So they had to take someone and gore was getting older. He does have the requisite skills to be a feature back but in many niners games I watched he was less impressive than gore ( hardly a crime as that dude is a warrior ) .I would stick to my original take that I would not trade hyde for the 1:4 until it was OTC as I like gordon and gurley more than hyde. He would be rb3 in this draft so if they are gone much rather have hyde than any other person in this class . I like cooper but if he ends up a jet or a raider ... yuck and the louisville skill players have not been up to the task of being difference makers in the NFL ... it does look like teddy b may break that trend . Parker looks great on tape but so did hyde last year coming into the league add in the fact that the niners have a good Oline and kaep can't consistently throw his way out of a wet paper sack and you have rb1 upside if gore moves along .
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