12tm SF PPR
QB RB RB WR WR WR TE SF FL FL
Murray, Purdy
Miller, Charbonet
Wilson, Olave, Waddle, Flowers
Kincaid, Hock
1.01, 1.11, 3.01
Admittedly not a huge Achane fan due to the injury risk we've already seen. Goal for this team is drafting RBs and competing in 2025 where I have three firsts and two 2nds.
Do we like having the bounce back candidate young, or the upside of Achane even though I kind of want to avoid RB points for a better 2025 pick?
Achane or Young
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Re: Achane or Young
To be honest I don't think your team is that far away. Starting lineup seems pretty legit outside of RBs but I liked Miller & Charbs as prospects.
I'd probably take Achane and his upside.
I'd probably take Achane and his upside.
10-team/.5 PPR Q RR WWW TE FF
QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Coleman, AD Mitchell
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram
12-team PPR/SF/TEP (+1PPR) Q RR WW TE FFF SF
QB - J. Hurts / D. Prescott / J. Love / B. Nix
RB - J. Taylor / K. Walker / J. Mixon / J. Brooks / D. Singletary / J. McLaughlin
WR - B. Aiyuk / K. Allen / S. Diggs / R. Odunze / X. Worthy / T. Franklin / J. Palmer / G. Davis / R. Doubs
TE - M. Andrews / D. Kincaid
QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Coleman, AD Mitchell
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram
12-team PPR/SF/TEP (+1PPR) Q RR WW TE FFF SF
QB - J. Hurts / D. Prescott / J. Love / B. Nix
RB - J. Taylor / K. Walker / J. Mixon / J. Brooks / D. Singletary / J. McLaughlin
WR - B. Aiyuk / K. Allen / S. Diggs / R. Odunze / X. Worthy / T. Franklin / J. Palmer / G. Davis / R. Doubs
TE - M. Andrews / D. Kincaid
Re: Achane or Young
I think I'd stick with Achane (or try to move him for a better QB).
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy, Rodgers, Geno, Carr
JT, Javonte, Chubb, Ekeler, Mostert, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, Lamb, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, DJM, Dell, M. Williams
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3):
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5
Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Pitts, Dissly, Hooper
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy, Rodgers, Geno, Carr
JT, Javonte, Chubb, Ekeler, Mostert, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, Lamb, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, DJM, Dell, M. Williams
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3):
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5
Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Pitts, Dissly, Hooper
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Re: Achane or Young
I am not ready to write Young off. With a strong start Young’s value could explode. I would also like to get a better QB in trade, but doubt Achane is pulling any of them.
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Re: Achane or Young
I am SMASH taking Young. Achane is getting priced close to his realistic upside. Given his profile and injury history, it's hard to imagine him ever being a bell-cow. Aaron Jones usage is probably tops for him. Not saying that's bad! But he's almost priced there already, and there is a real chance that his value drops.
Young is priced very low compared to his upside. Like Achane, he could easily hit a massive value drop. With one good season, though, he sky-rockets.
Finally, if Young does hit, you'll have him for much longer than you would Achane if he hits.
Young is priced very low compared to his upside. Like Achane, he could easily hit a massive value drop. With one good season, though, he sky-rockets.
Finally, if Young does hit, you'll have him for much longer than you would Achane if he hits.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Brooks ('27), Wright ('27), Guerendo ('26), Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), Nabers ('28), Worthy ('28), Polk ('28), Franklin ('28), E Moore ('25), M Thomas ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $201
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): Sinnott ('28), All ('28), Schrader ('26), A Reed ('28)
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Brooks ('27), Wright ('27), Guerendo ('26), Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), Nabers ('28), Worthy ('28), Polk ('28), Franklin ('28), E Moore ('25), M Thomas ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $201
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): Sinnott ('28), All ('28), Schrader ('26), A Reed ('28)
Re: Achane or Young
The question to me isn’t who is more valuable if they hit. It’s who is more likely to hit and that’s clearly Achane. He’s already shown to be one of if not the most explosive back in the NFL while Young has shown next to nothing. They’re both terribly undersized for their positions, I’d prefer the guy with world class speed. I still think Young has a chance, but I’d let someone else take that gamble.moishetreats wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 7:52 pm I am SMASH taking Young. Achane is getting priced close to his realistic upside. Given his profile and injury history, it's hard to imagine him ever being a bell-cow. Aaron Jones usage is probably tops for him. Not saying that's bad! But he's almost priced there already, and there is a real chance that his value drops.
Young is priced very low compared to his upside. Like Achane, he could easily hit a massive value drop. With one good season, though, he sky-rockets.
Finally, if Young does hit, you'll have him for much longer than you would Achane if he hits.
Team 1
10 team, sf, 0.5 ppr, te prem 1.0 ppr, idp
Start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 3 flex, 1 sf, 2 dl, 2 lb, 2 db, 1 idp flex
QB- Dak, Tua, Cousins, Minshew, Jimmy G
RB- CMC, Taylor, Achane, Zeke, Pierce, Mostert, Chandler, Ford
WR- Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Devonta, K Allen, Godwin, Lockett, Douglas, Z Jones
TE- LaPorta, Pitts
DL- Phillips, Burns, Buckner, Thibs
LB- Luvu, E.Jones, Warner Pace
DB- Hamilton, Metellus Hufanga, Bates, Branch
League started in 2020
2020 7th
2021 Champ
2022 Champ
2023 Champ
2024 picks 3.10 and 5.10
Team 2
12 team, SF, 0.5 ppr, 1.0 te prem, idp
Qb - Lamar, Kyler Jacoby
Rb - Achane, KWalk Swift, Estime, Irving Foreman, Mattison
Wr - Wilson, AJB, London, JSN Downs, Polk, R Wilson, Mims, Shaheed, McMillan, Palmer, Douglas
Te - Pitts, Goedert Bowers, Fant, All, Wiley
Dl - Gary, Greenard Latu, Mafe, Karlaftis
Lb - Luvu, Milano, Wilson Jamin
Db - Hamilton, Brisker Curl, Sainristil
10 team, sf, 0.5 ppr, te prem 1.0 ppr, idp
Start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 3 flex, 1 sf, 2 dl, 2 lb, 2 db, 1 idp flex
QB- Dak, Tua, Cousins, Minshew, Jimmy G
RB- CMC, Taylor, Achane, Zeke, Pierce, Mostert, Chandler, Ford
WR- Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Devonta, K Allen, Godwin, Lockett, Douglas, Z Jones
TE- LaPorta, Pitts
DL- Phillips, Burns, Buckner, Thibs
LB- Luvu, E.Jones, Warner Pace
DB- Hamilton, Metellus Hufanga, Bates, Branch
League started in 2020
2020 7th
2021 Champ
2022 Champ
2023 Champ
2024 picks 3.10 and 5.10
Team 2
12 team, SF, 0.5 ppr, 1.0 te prem, idp
Qb - Lamar, Kyler Jacoby
Rb - Achane, KWalk Swift, Estime, Irving Foreman, Mattison
Wr - Wilson, AJB, London, JSN Downs, Polk, R Wilson, Mims, Shaheed, McMillan, Palmer, Douglas
Te - Pitts, Goedert Bowers, Fant, All, Wiley
Dl - Gary, Greenard Latu, Mafe, Karlaftis
Lb - Luvu, Milano, Wilson Jamin
Db - Hamilton, Brisker Curl, Sainristil
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Re: Achane or Young
Agreed, Young is more than likely a bust whereas Achane is just not proven to be very durable; I'd argue he's already "hit" as the RB21 off 100 carries.Stone2987 wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 8:34 pm
The question to me isn’t who is more valuable if they hit. It’s who is more likely to hit and that’s clearly Achane. He’s already shown to be one of if not the most explosive back in the NFL while Young has shown next to nothing. They’re both terribly undersized for their positions, I’d prefer the guy with world class speed. I still think Young has a chance, but I’d let someone else take that gamble.
Also not sure why folks automatically think the lilliputian 200 pound QB getting sacked by D linemen behind a porous offensive line is more likely to have a longer career than the running back either, but y'all do y'all.
10 Tm Dynasty 1QB/IDP/1.0 PPR/40 Rst
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 W/T, 2 R/W/T, 1 PK, 3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 2 IDP
2015: 7th
2016: 4th
2017: 8th
2018: 3rd
2019: 6th
2020: 1st
2021: 2nd
2022: 2nd
2023: 1st
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 W/T, 2 R/W/T, 1 PK, 3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 2 IDP
2015: 7th
2016: 4th
2017: 8th
2018: 3rd
2019: 6th
2020: 1st
2021: 2nd
2022: 2nd
2023: 1st
Re: Achane or Young
I'm not sure the bolded part is right any more. Achane took a sizable hit with the Jaylen Wright pick. His dynasty ADP has gone down steadily since the end of the playing season. For redraft he was projected as a round 2 pick in 1QB/PPR before the NFL draft and is now more like a fourth round selection. He might still be overpriced but he's trending down.moishetreats wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 7:52 pm I am SMASH taking Young. Achane is getting priced close to his realistic upside. Given his profile and injury history, it's hard to imagine him ever being a bell-cow. Aaron Jones usage is probably tops for him. Not saying that's bad! But he's almost priced there already, and there is a real chance that his value drops.
Young is priced very low compared to his upside. Like Achane, he could easily hit a massive value drop. With one good season, though, he sky-rockets.
Finally, if Young does hit, you'll have him for much longer than you would Achane if he hits.
Putting that aside - as an Achane manager in SF, I'd want more than BY. But not all that much. A '25 2nd would do it.
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Re: Achane or Young
Agreeeedtstafford wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 2:54 amI'm not sure the bolded part is right any more. Achane took a sizable hit with the Jaylen Wright pick. His dynasty ADP has gone down steadily since the end of the playing season. For redraft he was projected as a round 2 pick in 1QB/PPR before the NFL draft and is now more like a fourth round selection. He might still be overpriced but he's trending down.moishetreats wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 7:52 pm I am SMASH taking Young. Achane is getting priced close to his realistic upside. Given his profile and injury history, it's hard to imagine him ever being a bell-cow. Aaron Jones usage is probably tops for him. Not saying that's bad! But he's almost priced there already, and there is a real chance that his value drops.
Young is priced very low compared to his upside. Like Achane, he could easily hit a massive value drop. With one good season, though, he sky-rockets.
Finally, if Young does hit, you'll have him for much longer than you would Achane if he hits.
Putting that aside - as an Achane manager in SF, I'd want more than BY. But not all that much. A '25 2nd would do it.
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