Jordan Love Move

[Huggie711]

Just finished a 10 team SF startup draft. I left with a QB room of Lawrence, Stroud, Love, and Howell.

Give: Jordan Love

Receive: 2024 1st - my gut is later..this team has Mahomes D. Watson Saquon Najee Jacobs C. Watson A. Cooper

After Lawrence, I feel like I have 3 unknowns at QB. But is a 24 1st too much to pass up on?

[Gator Sens]

In a 10 team format, i would rather have a 1st over Love. This takes out the risk on your end for a pick that will gain value. It's hard to imagine he is worth more at any point in a 10 teamer.

[TheTroll]

I’d go with the pick. Not sold on Love but in a 10 treamer there should always be other options at QB

[kellysheroes]

hell NO

[Sriracha]

If you want to mitigate risk go with the pick.

But those saying it's hard to see him being worth more than a late 1st are wild. If Love hits he has the arm talent and mobility to be a QB1 for a long time. Even in a 10 team league those guys will fetch a lot more than a late 1st

[Ktmjelde]

Didn't give any infor on the rest of your squad so tough to make a full opinion, but i might think to hold Love.. The way i look at it is that you have a stud QB 1 and then 2 legit dart throws (Stroud/Love) and a hope and a prayer (Howell). Looking to next year i am not sure what QB will be available at say 1.08-1.10 that will have the same opportunity that Love has now. They are basiucally committed to him for 2 year now so put up or shut up. Im not sure i would want to put all my hope and dreams into Stroud and Howell to be a legit QB2.

[Lumps]

I think it’s maybe sensible to ask for more, given the trade partners strong team. Flattery never hurt!

But in a SF I think the risk for you is Howell not working out, then you are left searching if injury strikes one of your starters.

If it helps I was in a similar situation this off season.

14 team 2QB (so lots more QB pressure though)
2 sure starters, Love, Purdy, Howell

So I had 2 ?/maybes after Love. I ended up dealing him for the 1.3 and 2.3 devy picks this year. Devy picks are more risky than rookie picks in your case, but higher picks than you’re looking at with this team.

[abloom]

Ten team league this is easily the 24 first. It's not close. Smash accept

[Huggie711]

Thanks all for the feedback - should have posted the whole squad:

QB: Lawrence, Stroud, Love, Howell, Baker
RB: Pollard, M. Sanders, A. Gibson, Bigsby, Hubbard, Carter, D. Vaughn
WR: Lamb, Amon-Ra, London, Addison, Bateman, Doubs, M. Mims
TE: Pat, D. Schultz, Otton

No picks moved yet so have my 3 1st-3rd for 24-26.

My team was drafted with youth in mind and I am going to guess I'm in the bottom 4 year 1.

[moishetreats]

I'm keeping Love. I get that there's risk, but I don't understand why there's more risk with him than Young, Stroud, or Richardson.

The three rookies have appeal and higher draft capital. Check. Love has three years behind an all-time great QB. Check. I don't see how Love, at worst, should go later than 1.05 this year in an SF league, and believers could easily put him at 1.02. We tend to forget what's not in front of us. We've seen Love start and finish one game and come up in for one quarter in another. For a rookie, that's a game and a half of tape evidence. I don't know why we're drawing conclusions on him.

Carolina, Houston, and Indy have told us how much they believe in their QBs based on the draft. So has Green Bay based on its draft (we forget they traded up to get Love!), trading Rodgers, and extending Love. Realistically, he has as much upside as Young and Stroud (Richardson is his own case) and as much bust potential as any of them, too.

[abloom]

I'm keeping Love. I get that there's risk, but I don't understand why there's more risk with him than Young, Stroud, or Richardson.

The three rookies have appeal and higher draft capital. Check. Love has three years behind an all-time great QB. Check. I don't see how Love, at worst, should go later than 1.05 this year in an SF league, and believers could easily put him at 1.02. We tend to forget what's not in front of us. We've seen Love start and finish one game and come up in for one quarter in another. For a rookie, that's a game and a half of tape evidence. I don't know why we're drawing conclusions on him.

Carolina, Houston, and Indy have told us how much they believe in their QBs based on the draft. So has Green Bay based on its draft (we forget they traded up to get Love!), trading Rodgers, and extending Love. Realistically, he has as much upside as Young and Stroud (Richardson is his own case) and as much bust potential as any of them, too.

QBs drafted in the first 10-15 picks of the NFL draft are much more likely to be hits than those drafted in picks 16-64. (If I remember correctly it's 2x + as likely)

Love should go 1.06 for me behind jsn and Infront of Gibbs in a 12 team SF draft. He should go mid second in a 10 teamerm

[Inputusername]

I would probably try to get a young depth WR in addition to the 2024 1st

[moishetreats]

I'm keeping Love. I get that there's risk, but I don't understand why there's more risk with him than Young, Stroud, or Richardson.

The three rookies have appeal and higher draft capital. Check. Love has three years behind an all-time great QB. Check. I don't see how Love, at worst, should go later than 1.05 this year in an SF league, and believers could easily put him at 1.02. We tend to forget what's not in front of us. We've seen Love start and finish one game and come up in for one quarter in another. For a rookie, that's a game and a half of tape evidence. I don't know why we're drawing conclusions on him.

Carolina, Houston, and Indy have told us how much they believe in their QBs based on the draft. So has Green Bay based on its draft (we forget they traded up to get Love!), trading Rodgers, and extending Love. Realistically, he has as much upside as Young and Stroud (Richardson is his own case) and as much bust potential as any of them, too.

QBs drafted in the first 10-15 picks of the NFL draft are much more likely to be hits than those drafted in picks 16-64. (If I remember correctly it's 2x + as likely)

Love should go 1.06 for me behind jsn and Infront of Gibbs in a 12 team SF draft. He should go mid second in a 10 teamerm

Understand 100%. IMO, it's not a total comparison because Love is just a late-round pick. He's a late-round pick with three years learning a system behind an elite QB. No idea what that does to the hit/bust rate, but stands to all reason to me that it must close the gap. As for draft position, we're not entirely disagreeing: Love is 1.02-1.06 for me also (higher for me, lower for you in that range). And, in that range, I'm absolutely keeping him over a projected late 2024 1st.

[abloom]

I'm keeping Love. I get that there's risk, but I don't understand why there's more risk with him than Young, Stroud, or Richardson.

The three rookies have appeal and higher draft capital. Check. Love has three years behind an all-time great QB. Check. I don't see how Love, at worst, should go later than 1.05 this year in an SF league, and believers could easily put him at 1.02. We tend to forget what's not in front of us. We've seen Love start and finish one game and come up in for one quarter in another. For a rookie, that's a game and a half of tape evidence. I don't know why we're drawing conclusions on him.

Carolina, Houston, and Indy have told us how much they believe in their QBs based on the draft. So has Green Bay based on its draft (we forget they traded up to get Love!), trading Rodgers, and extending Love. Realistically, he has as much upside as Young and Stroud (Richardson is his own case) and as much bust potential as any of them, too.

QBs drafted in the first 10-15 picks of the NFL draft are much more likely to be hits than those drafted in picks 16-64. (If I remember correctly it's 2x + as likely)

Love should go 1.06 for me behind jsn and Infront of Gibbs in a 12 team SF draft. He should go mid second in a 10 teamerm

Understand 100%. IMO, it's not a total comparison because Love is just a late-round pick. He's a late-round pick with three years learning a system behind an elite QB. No idea what that does to the hit/bust rate, but stands to all reason to me that it must close the gap. As for draft position, we're not entirely disagreeing: Love is 1.02-1.06 for me also (higher for me, lower for you in that range). And, in that range, I'm absolutely keeping him over a projected late 2024 1st.

I agree we aren't really disagreeing with each other. I was more responding to your points opposed to offering a distinctly different opinion.

Certainly it's not like love is a rookie, but it's hard to read how good he is. We get a lot of mixed signals and I think right now it's more likely than not, that his career is going to be worse than the top 3 rookies this year.

[Huggie711]

Another follow-up. I asked for Jimmy G to be thrown in and he countered by saying he'd want a 25 3rd from me. So to summarize, it could potentially be:

Give: Jordan Love + 25 3rd

Receive Jimmy G + 24 1st (proj late)

Does getting Jimmy G move the needle for anyone as a 1-2 QB safety net for me?