Jefferson and Swift for mega package??

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Jefferson and Swift for mega package??

Postby WOATjohn » Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:45 pm

I was formally offered:
I give Jefferson and Swift
I get Higgins, Dobbins, Pickens, Aiyuk and his 23 1st

12 team PPR
Starting QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/3Flex (deep lineups)

My team is in the middle a rebuild with some decent building blocks, but a totally LOADED team is interested in acquiring BOTH Jefferson and Swift. I told him that’s going to take a huge haul, but he does have some amazing young assets.

My core:
RB: Swift, R White
WR: Jefferson, McLaurin, D Smith, Bateman, Burks, Palmer
TE: Hockenson

His team that I’m interested in:
RB: Dobbins, Gibson, Najee
WR: Pittman, Higgins, Pickens, A St Brown
His 1st and 2nd
He also has: Metcalf, Aiyuk, E Moore, Pierce, R Stevenson

I would consider doing something like Swift for Dobbins, 1st and Pickens.
Or Jefferson for Pittman (or Higgins), Dobbins and 1st

OR SHOULD I STICK WITH MY CORE?
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Re: Rebuild, trade Jefferson and/or Swift?

Postby WOATjohn » Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:50 pm

He actually just formally offered me this mega deal
I give Jefferson and Swift
I get Higgins, Dobbins, Pickens, Aiyuk and his 23 1st
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
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WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, McCaffrey, Bateman, N Brown, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson

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RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
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TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
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Re: Jefferson and Swift for mega package??

Postby Finfansteve » Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:59 pm

I would keep my side Of the deal. It looks like the classic 8 dimes for a dollar people try to get away with and shouldn’t.
JJ and swift are top young assets that shouldn’t be given away for pieces and a lottery ticket
Qb: Hurts, geno Smith
Rb: JT, Gibbs, Montgomery, Roschon, Z. White, Ty Chandler
Wr: AJB, JJ, Chase, waddle, G Wilson
TE: Pitts, Kincaid, Likely, Njoku

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Re: Jefferson and Swift for mega package??

Postby gpaok » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:11 pm

Bad offer, keep Jefferson!
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RB: Nick Chubb, J.K. Dobbins, Travis Etienne, Rhamondre Stevenson, Rachaad White, Khalil Herbert, Tank Bigsby, Jaylen Warren, Jerome Ford, Kyren Williams, Tank Bigsby
WR: Amari Cooper, CeeDee Lamb, Ja’Marr Chase, Calvin Ridley, Tank Dell
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Re: Jefferson and Swift for mega package??

Postby WOATjohn » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:12 pm

Finfansteve wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:59 pm I would keep my side Of the deal. It looks like the classic 8 dimes for a dollar people try to get away with and shouldn’t.
JJ and swift are top young assets that shouldn’t be given away for pieces and a lottery ticket
I don’t agree that it’s a bunch dimes, which is why it’s intriguing me. It adds a bunch of depth in a league that needs depth.

Higgins is a top WR
Dobbins had amazing talent before his injury (I’m a bias buckeye fan too)
Aiyuk is a wildcard
Pickens is extremely talented
Late 1st in a loaded class
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Re: Jefferson and Swift for mega package??

Postby Gator Sens » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:45 pm

Jefferson + for me. It's just not a great idea to move Jefferson and including Swift, not close. Hold your pieces and the best asset in fantasy.

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Re: Jefferson and Swift for mega package??

Postby nameless91 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:06 pm

No way. That's a pretty good deal for one of those guys, but a bad package deal. Also I'd try to sell Swift and JJ in separate deals. You can usually get more that way

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Re: Jefferson and Swift for mega package??

Postby MacDaddy123 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:43 pm

Jefferson/Swift side easily for me.
He basically offered you enough for Jefferson, and he is getting Swift for free.

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Re: Jefferson and Swift for mega package??

Postby Tvols » Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:51 am

Back away from the edge you are giving up the best two players and this really is not that close. why sell two young studs for wr 2s Dobbins is no sure thing.
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Re: Jefferson and Swift for mega package??

Postby WOATjohn » Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:03 am

Tvols wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:51 am Back away from the edge you are giving up the best two players and this really is not that close. why sell two young studs for wr 2s Dobbins is no sure thing.
Because I’m rebuilding, need depth and don’t have many assets after these two and a few more
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WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, McCaffrey, Bateman, N Brown, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson

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RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
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Re: Jefferson and Swift for mega package??

Postby frerichs5 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:40 am

Easy pass for me.

Jefferson = Higgins, Dobbins, 1st
Swift >>>>>>>>>>>Pickens, Aiyuk

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Re: Jefferson and Swift for mega package??

Postby krtbuckeye » Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:07 am

I can understand the intrigue in gaining the depth with the starting req’s, but I still don’t think this is close for Jefferson/Swift. I know this may sound idealistic, and it’s only a template, but I lean toward the approach of starting a rebuild by setting up your WR group with as many young guys who have popped as possible as this sets up your competitive window over time. Once you’ve bought yourself that window, you can then draft or try to trade picks for RBs to become competitive. I say all of that to say this, you already have a leg up on your rebuild by having Jefferson. You can’t get any better than he and/or Chase for the rebuild. Swift is also a great asset given that he’s so young, but if you’re not expecting to compete in the next 2-3 years, I’d look to see if you could flip Swift only for a package similar to this.
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Re: Jefferson and Swift for mega package??

Postby Ginge11 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:34 am

No way. Even in such a deep format with so many starting spots, I'm still holding JJ and Swift here. Aside from Higgins, the pieces coming back all have ? marks - including the 2023 first.
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Re: Jefferson and Swift for mega package??

Postby Dibbles » Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:36 am

Yuck, hard pass for all reasons already mentioned.

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Re: Jefferson and Swift for mega package??

Postby srlarson » Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:46 am

as is I would pass...if you are set on making a deal....then I would need another Wr and another RB....Metcalf and Pierce...give yourself more dart throws.....both are probably next year guys...but that's ok.
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