Will Gore rebound?

[Madster]

Frank Gore has started extremely slow, and has even picked up yet another (minor?) injury, but will he rebound later this season?

And, if you are a contender and could get him for a late 1st or maybe a 2nd, is he worth acquiring as your RB3?

I have no real clue myself, thats why I am asking

[tstafford]

I suspect he will. And if he does, the upside is very big. If I was a contender that needed a RB3, Gore would be my primary target. His owner is probably down on him and he's been tough to trade for a while. I'd absolutely pay a late 2012 1st if I thought Gore was the piece I needed to win. If you think about it, there just aren't a lot of RBs that people would part with for just a pick who could be difference makers (barring injuries). I guess D. Will might fit into that category, but I would much rather have Gore at this point. And it's not like Gore is necessarily worthless to a contender in 2012 either.

[nightmarion]

I agree with TStafford. Gore will rebound and he is well worth a late 1st.

[Misfit74]

If I'm playing the 49ers I devote my resources to stopping Frank Gore (and his backup RBs), leaving my remaining defenders to contend with Alex Smith and the 'passing game' (I use that term loosely).

Same thing teams are doing with the Titans, Panthers, and probably others...

[MilwaukeesBest]

I suspect he will. And if he does, the upside is very big. If I was a contender that needed a RB3, Gore would be my primary target. His owner is probably down on him and he's been tough to trade for a while. I'd absolutely pay a late 2012 1st if I thought Gore was the piece I needed to win. If you think about it, there just aren't a lot of RBs that people would part with for just a pick who could be difference makers (barring injuries). I guess D. Will might fit into that category, but I would much rather have Gore at this point. And it's not like Gore is necessarily worthless to a contender in 2012 either.

Agreed, works for both parties. Gore should have another few decent seasons in him.

[DMP]

I am not a big Gore believer and think this is the start of his downfall. Hunter will start to cut into his carries and if he continues to shine this could turn into a RBBC very soon. With all that Gore hate I would still take the chance with a late 1st or early 2nd. Gore has at least shown what he can do and those picks are risky at best.

[standard_variance]

no....he will not rebound...at least not to the level many are expecting. Sorry guys I understand that he has a history of being (somewhat) reliable....but I think thats going to change sooner rather than later. Im not a see it to believe it kind of guy. I'd rather be on my toes than on my heels. His ypc thus far has been HORRID....59 carries for 2.5 yards a pop...unless the 49ers offense gets going I dont expect that to change too much this season, not to mention a few key points

1) Kendall Hunter is lurking in the background
2) He has trouble playing a full season anyway
3) He has a history of being under-utilized as many have noticed over the years

So unless the 49ers get better offensively and Gore manages to play a full season, and gets more touches then I dont see him rebound to RB1 status.

[nightmarion]

no....he will not rebound...at least not to the level many are expecting. Sorry guys I understand that he has a history of being (somewhat) reliable....but I think thats going to change sooner rather than later. Im not a see it to believe it kind of guy. I'd rather be on my toes than on my heels. His ypc thus far has been HORRID....59 carries for 2.5 yards a pop...unless the 49ers offense gets going I dont expect that to change too much this season, not to mention a few key points

1) Kendall Hunter is lurking in the background
2) He has trouble playing a full season anyway
3) He has a history of being under-utilized as many have noticed over the years

So unless the 49ers get better offensively and Gore manages to play a full season, and gets more touches then I dont see him rebound to RB1 status.

Chris Johnson's YPC this year: 2.1

I think its a little early to be jumping ship here. Gore's one of the better talents in the league, it'll show again sooner then later.

[standard_variance]

no....he will not rebound...at least not to the level many are expecting. Sorry guys I understand that he has a history of being (somewhat) reliable....but I think thats going to change sooner rather than later. Im not a see it to believe it kind of guy. I'd rather be on my toes than on my heels. His ypc thus far has been HORRID....59 carries for 2.5 yards a pop...unless the 49ers offense gets going I dont expect that to change too much this season, not to mention a few key points

1) Kendall Hunter is lurking in the background
2) He has trouble playing a full season anyway
3) He has a history of being under-utilized as many have noticed over the years

So unless the 49ers get better offensively and Gore manages to play a full season, and gets more touches then I dont see him rebound to RB1 status.

Chris Johnson's YPC this year: 2.1

I think its a little early to be jumping ship here. Gore's one of the better talents in the league, it'll show again sooner then later.

1) So you are comparing Gore to Chris Johnson?
2) You are comparing the 49ers to the Titans?
3) Chris Johnson will also not live up to his hype (top 5) this year either.

Im not saying Gore wont have a decent year...but he wont be a top RB...of course he will show it at some point but that wasnt the question. The question was will he rebound. And my answer is not enough to hold onto. I'd be selling to people (like you) who still have hope for him.

[nightmarion]

The point is the ship has probably sailed to get proper value for Gore. Will he rebound? Most likely. But owners won't give up enough to match the production that we will see from him this year.
You say unless the SF "offense gets going" that Gore won't improve much on his YPC. So the 49ers were a much better team the past few seasons? He was a top 5 RB in both my PPR and non-PPR league prior to his injury last season. Had he played the entire year at the rate he was producing, he would have surpassed 2000 yards from scrimmage. That's with an offense that was not much different from what it is today.
Secondly, you stated "He has a history of being under-utilized as many have noticed over the years"....really?
2011: 4th most rush attempts in the NFL
2010: he ranked 20th in touches playing in only 10.25 games. He was projecting for 317 rush attempts, good for 6th in the league
2009: 14 in the NFL in rush attempts in 14 games.
And this still isn't accounting for his receptions: totaling no less then 43 in every season since his rookie year. Under utilized?

And I'll finish with no, I'm not comparing him to CJ... simply making a point. Everyone reads way too much into the first few games of a season. And to think CJ is not a top 5 back, or that he won't produce top 5 numbers is absurd (barring injury). If you want to make an argument against Gore, injury history is your best card.

[standard_variance]

You say unless the SF "offense gets going" that Gore won't improve much on his YPC.

No i didnt say that...I said that unless that offense gets going, and unless he stays healthy, and unless he gets more carries despite Hunter and Dixon, then he wont rebound LIKE EXPECTED.....but of course that all depends on our expectations to begin with. To whomever has considered him a RB1 in recent years he will not rebound for those people...he will rebound from these HORRIBLE NUMBERS because all he can do at this point is improve. But he will not rebound as a every week starter in fantasy bottom line. He either gets injured and doesnt play 16 games, or losses touches and plays 16 games...Im picking the former, but either way its poison. I choose to stay away. The way he is under-performing with the touches he is getting he will get hurt before he even has a chance to rebound anyway

2006 about 20 carries + 4 catches per game (16 games) -> 5.4 ypcar and 8 ypcat
2007 about 18 carries +3.5 catches per game (15 games)
2008 about 17 carries + 3 catches per game (14 games)
2009 about 16 carries + 4 catches per game (14 games)
2010 about 19 carries + 4 catches per game (11 games)
2011 about 20 carries + 2 catches per game (3 games) -> 2.5 ypcar and 6ypcat

[nightmarion]

His ypc thus far has been HORRID....59 carries for 2.5 yards a pop...unless the 49ers offense gets going I dont expect that to change too much this season, not to mention a few key points

That is what you said, then you added "not to mention" Not in addition to. To give Hunter any amount of significant touches at this point would be ridiculous. You put the ball in the hands of your best player. He may lose a few touches a game (to Hunter, Dixon doesn't even belong in this discussion) similar to the Vikes and Gerhart or MJD and Deji, but he'll get the lions share.
I have to give you the injury concern, thats legit. Though only once has he missed more then two games. He'll be a low end RB1, high end RB2 this season once again.

[standard_variance]

That is what you said, then you added "not to mention" Not in addition to. To give Hunter any amount of significant touches at this point would be ridiculous. You put the ball in the hands of your best player. He may lose a few touches a game (to Hunter, Dixon doesn't even belong in this discussion) similar to the Vikes and Gerhart or MJD and Deji, but he'll get the lions share.
I have to give you the injury concern, thats legit. Though only once has he missed more then two games. He'll be a low end RB1, high end RB2 this season once again.

I think the thing that also needs consideration too is his fantasy value vs his real life value. If the 49ers want any chance to push for the playoffs its going to be in their best interest to keep one of their bests offensive weapons healthier throughout the season...and the best way for them to do that is to limit him enough to keep him healthy, while also finding a way to get the ball in his hands enough for the team to be successful. Im not comfortable with them having to wrestle with that...especially with the presence of Hunter and Dixon there. That may become a bigger factor later rather than sooner but the concern is still there. Last year Gore had 203 carries and 800 yards. He will do better than that this year most likely...but I would be surprised if he broke 1000 yards rushing this year....let alone be a top 12 RB.

[nightmarion]

I can respect that opinion. I feel differently, but I guess that's what makes FF so much fun. I think he'll get the touches he needs and the production will come soon. I expected a bit of a slow start with him missing the preseason.

[MikeCross]

I can respect that opinion. I feel differently, but I guess that's what makes FF so much fun. I think he'll get the touches he needs and the production will come soon. I expected a bit of a slow start with him missing the preseason.

I agree, he was a top5 pick in redrafts last year. and the 1b to MJDs 1a in 09. The slow start is expected. All the knee jerk reactions are a bit much, after only 3 weeks.