Newton or Bradford?
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Newton or Bradford?
Who would you rather have as your qb2 and future starter with a qb1 like Romo or Schaub ahead of him, Newton or Bradford?
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Re: Newton or Bradford?
Slotting newton over bradford on the basis of one game is ridiculously premature. as of right now, I would rather have bradford.
However, a few more games like that ( well, not like that, but 300+ yard 2+ td games) and I'm willing to put him on the potential young stud tier with Freeman, bradford and stafford. What I think that performance did, IN my mind, is if we had to do the rookie drafts over, I'd take newton at 1.04 or 1.05.
However, a few more games like that ( well, not like that, but 300+ yard 2+ td games) and I'm willing to put him on the potential young stud tier with Freeman, bradford and stafford. What I think that performance did, IN my mind, is if we had to do the rookie drafts over, I'd take newton at 1.04 or 1.05.
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Re: Newton or Bradford?
Bradford and it is not in the same ballpark whatsoever imo. Bradford is by far the superior talent. A fluky game by Cam has his stock blown way way way out of proportion.
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Re: Newton or Bradford?
C´mon. this really isn´t a question. Calm down a little on yesterdays Newton performace....really! Bradford.... and its not close!!!
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Re: Newton or Bradford?
GridIronFavre wrote: Bradford is by far the superior talent.
I don't think I agree that Bradford is the superior talent, much less that it is "by far" what he is, is the much safer bet to translate into having a QB1 style career. I think Cam is probably more physically gifted than Bradford. But he's also much rawer and much riskier.
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Re: Newton or Bradford?
Bradford by a short mile. But witnessing Cam's ceiling was pretty exciting I must admit.
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Re: Newton or Bradford?
Bradford.
Newton hasn't become an elite passing prospect in one game. Bradford may be the best passing-QB prospect since 2005. Yes, even before Matt Ryan entered the league. Newton has a very high ceiling, though. Need to reel it back in a bit, though. It's been ONE GAME.
Newton hasn't become an elite passing prospect in one game. Bradford may be the best passing-QB prospect since 2005. Yes, even before Matt Ryan entered the league. Newton has a very high ceiling, though. Need to reel it back in a bit, though. It's been ONE GAME.
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Re: Newton or Bradford?
Well said Allen...Misfit74 wrote:Bradford.
Newton hasn't become an elite passing prospect in one game. Bradford may be the best passing-QB prospect since 2005. Yes, even before Matt Ryan entered the league. Newton has a very high ceiling, though. Need to reel it back in a bit, though. It's been ONE GAME.
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Re: Newton or Bradford?
I think that Bradford offers elite talent and still stand by my opinion that Newton is a mediocre talent at the NFL level. There are still other rookie QBs I would prefer to him.RobertBobson wrote:GridIronFavre wrote: Bradford is by far the superior talent.
I don't think I agree that Bradford is the superior talent, much less that it is "by far" what he is, is the much safer bet to translate into having a QB1 style career. I think Cam is probably more physically gifted than Bradford. But he's also much rawer and much riskier.
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QB: Rodgers, Vick, Cutler, Schaub, Luck
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WR: Green, Marshall, Roddy, Jennings, Roddy, Bowe, Maclin, Britt, A Brown, Williams (TB), Collie, Smith (STL)
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Re: Newton or Bradford?
for real, whats the next question should i get fitz or duecet, duecet did have a better game then fitz
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Re: Newton or Bradford?
I agree with you 100% Brady. It's waaaaaay too soon to compare the two. I would definitely rather have Bradford. But, If Newton puts up a few more games like his first, we could re-examine the question.... as I think he surprised a lot of people.BradyT wrote:C´mon. this really isn´t a question. Calm down a little on yesterdays Newton performace....really! Bradford.... and its not close!!!
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Re: Newton or Bradford?
I really don't understand the responses thus far. Really I don't. Everyone is acting like this is a ridiculous question to even be asking, and I don't understand it.
I think this is absolutely a legit question to ask. No matter which way your preference lies, I think you can make a serious case for either guy. I'm obviously going to be like the rest of you, wanting to see more of Newton before I anoint him as the next big thing, but I don't think we've seen enough of Bradford to come to any meaningful conclusions either.
What has Bradford done in his career thus far that makes you all assume he's leaps and bounds ahead of Newton from a fantasy perspective? He looked decent in his first year, particularly from a "game manager" standpoint, but I was never really wowed with his performance even once. Lots of check-downs and safe passes, not much explosiveness or many big plays. He had 1 fantasy game of over 20 points last year and that's it. Are any of you really comfortable with Bradford as your starting fantasy QB right now? Because I certainly wouldn't be. Newton, in his first start ever, has a 30+ point game. I certainly don't think 30+ point games will be the norm for Newton, but the potential is clearly there. I'm still waiting to see if Bradford has that potential or not.
If you absolutely made me choose right now which one I'd want on my fantasy team, I suppose I'd pick Bradford. But I'm telling you now that it would be by a relatively slim margin, and certainly not a "no brainer" like some make it seem.
And for the record, I own Bradford in my main dynasty league and Newton in no leagues.
I think this is absolutely a legit question to ask. No matter which way your preference lies, I think you can make a serious case for either guy. I'm obviously going to be like the rest of you, wanting to see more of Newton before I anoint him as the next big thing, but I don't think we've seen enough of Bradford to come to any meaningful conclusions either.
What has Bradford done in his career thus far that makes you all assume he's leaps and bounds ahead of Newton from a fantasy perspective? He looked decent in his first year, particularly from a "game manager" standpoint, but I was never really wowed with his performance even once. Lots of check-downs and safe passes, not much explosiveness or many big plays. He had 1 fantasy game of over 20 points last year and that's it. Are any of you really comfortable with Bradford as your starting fantasy QB right now? Because I certainly wouldn't be. Newton, in his first start ever, has a 30+ point game. I certainly don't think 30+ point games will be the norm for Newton, but the potential is clearly there. I'm still waiting to see if Bradford has that potential or not.
If you absolutely made me choose right now which one I'd want on my fantasy team, I suppose I'd pick Bradford. But I'm telling you now that it would be by a relatively slim margin, and certainly not a "no brainer" like some make it seem.
And for the record, I own Bradford in my main dynasty league and Newton in no leagues.
Re: Newton or Bradford?
Water Buffalo wrote:I really don't understand the responses thus far. Really I don't. Everyone is acting like this is a ridiculous question to even be asking, and I don't understand it.
I think this is absolutely a legit question to ask. No matter which way your preference lies, I think you can make a serious case for either guy. I'm obviously going to be like the rest of you, wanting to see more of Newton before I anoint him as the next big thing, but I don't think we've seen enough of Bradford to come to any meaningful conclusions either.
What has Bradford done in his career thus far that makes you all assume he's leaps and bounds ahead of Newton from a fantasy perspective? He looked decent in his first year, particularly from a "game manager" standpoint, but I was never really wowed with his performance even once. Lots of check-downs and safe passes, not much explosiveness or many big plays. He had 1 fantasy game of over 20 points last year and that's it. Are any of you really comfortable with Bradford as your starting fantasy QB right now? Because I certainly wouldn't be. Newton, in his first start ever, has a 30+ point game. I certainly don't think 30+ point games will be the norm for Newton, but the potential is clearly there. I'm still waiting to see if Bradford has that potential or not.
If you absolutely made me choose right now which one I'd want on my fantasy team, I suppose I'd pick Bradford. But I'm telling you now that it would be by a relatively slim margin, and certainly not a "no brainer" like some make it seem.
And for the record, I own Bradford in my main dynasty league and Newton in no leagues.
I´m offering you Newton and a 2nd for Bradford right now.. or is a 3rd instead of a 2nd enough? ...
Newton had one nice game.. Bradford had one really good season with basically nothing to throw the ball to. He made his WR work, made them better as they really are. Thats why Bradford is way ahead of Newton right now!
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RB: Breece,Walker,Taylor,BRobinson,Allgeier,Spiller
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TE: Andrews,Conklin
DST:DAL
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TE: Andrews,Conklin
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Re: Newton or Bradford?
First off, I want to say that I agree that this isn't a ridiculous question, and I very much agree with what Water Buffalo said. I will say that I prefer Bradford, mainly bc I like McDaniels as his OC. I think that both players will someday be QB1's in FF, but Bradford is the safer pick IMO. I own Cam in a dynasty league, and due to unforeseen circumstances, he is my starting QB. But, I would definitely trade him for Sam Bradford.
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Re: Newton or Bradford?
A little birdy told me that Newton would be a QB1 in 12 team leagues, probably better than Romo and Schaub. I think he's worth buying at a top 12 price, but I think Bradford will be just a little better once the Rams get a WR1. This is going to take patience, but I'm not taking Cam Newton's performance lightly. Rushing QB's are really fantasy friendly as we can see from Rodgers,Vick, & Freeman and it's becoming very difficult to rank these QB's between the range of 6 - 12, atleast for me.
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