So this is the league from my 2. Team in Sig.
I belive Im the only one who has played in a 2 QB/ SF League.
So a trade just went down between a "rebuilding" team and the contender (who is commish)
The rebuilding team has some pieces, like 4nette, Gurley, Golladay, Parker, Kelce and Andrews. But no starting QBs, he just cut Winston prior to that trade.
Rebuilding team gives:
1.03 3.03 and his 2021 1sts. Likely Lawrence/Fields
Contender gives:
2 2021 1sts. Problably Late. Jonnu Smith
1st, 2nd, 3th 2022
This leaves Keenum and Mariota as the only 2 QBs on the rebuilding team. And one Late 2nd.
To me it seems like they dont know the value of QBs.
Would you say anything or just let that one team be bad for a long time and the other become a juggernaut for a long time. ?
Im not talking about Collusion, because I dont think they Know how bad it is.
A very bad trade when changing from 1QB to 2QB league
A very bad trade when changing from 1QB to 2QB league
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers
QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle
Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ 2020 third place
QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns
Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K
QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon
QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle
Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ 2020 third place
QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns
Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K
QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon
Re: A very bad trade when changing from 1QB to 2QB league
That trade doesn't make any sense. Loading up for the 2022 draft? If that isn't collusion then one guy doesn't understand dynasty football at all. I would be pissed if I were in that league. There's winning a deal, and then there is absolutely fleecing a guy. I would have to say somethingravn88 wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 4:39 am So this is the league from my 2. Team in Sig.
I belive Im the only one who has played in a 2 QB/ SF League.
So a trade just went down between a "rebuilding" team and the contender (who is commish)
The rebuilding team has some pieces, like 4nette, Gurley, Golladay, Parker, Kelce and Andrews. But no starting QBs, he just cut Winston prior to that trade.
Rebuilding team gives:
1.03 3.03 and his 2021 1sts. Likely Lawrence/Fields
Contender gives:
2 2021 1sts. Problably Late. Jonnu Smith
1st, 2nd, 3th 2022
This leaves Keenum and Mariota as the only 2 QBs on the rebuilding team. And one Late 2nd.
To me it seems like they dont know the value of QBs.
Would you say anything or just let that one team be bad for a long time and the other become a juggernaut for a long time. ?
Im not talking about Collusion, because I dont think they Know how bad it is.
12 team ppr 4 point pass td
Murray, Minshew
Singletary, Lindsay, Samuels, Ty Johnson
Chark, Arob, Woods, Diontae, Nkeal, Lazard, Conley, Cole, Dorsett
Higbee, Jarwin, Dissly
Gould, Patriots
14 team ppr superflex, .2 ppc, WR 25% ppr bonus, TE ppr bonus 75%
Mayfield, Minshew, Trubisky, Foles, Hill
Djohns, Singletary, Fournette, Harris, Armstead, Ogunbawale, Samuels
Julio, Arob, Woods, Sims Jr, Claypool, Duvernay, Isabella, Conley, Tyrell
Waller, Hurst, Jarwin, Boyle
12 team ppr 4 point pass td, superflex, 1.5 TE ppr
Goff, Minshew, Hill, Alllen, Walker
Chubb, Taylor, Henry, Singletary, David Johnson, Damien Harris, Hyde, Boone, Blasingame
Tyreek, Boyd, Diontae, Marvin Jones, Pittman, Nkeal, Duvernay, Sims Jr, Stills
Waller, Higbee, Arnold, Olsen, Parkinson, Sample
20 team ppr 6 point pass td, .05 point per return yard
Matt Ryan
Fournette, Singletary, Harris, Cohen, Duke Johnson, Trey Edmunds
Davante Adams, Tyreek, Sutton, Boyd, Dorsett, Tyrell
Kittle, Jarwin, Oliver
Murray, Minshew
Singletary, Lindsay, Samuels, Ty Johnson
Chark, Arob, Woods, Diontae, Nkeal, Lazard, Conley, Cole, Dorsett
Higbee, Jarwin, Dissly
Gould, Patriots
14 team ppr superflex, .2 ppc, WR 25% ppr bonus, TE ppr bonus 75%
Mayfield, Minshew, Trubisky, Foles, Hill
Djohns, Singletary, Fournette, Harris, Armstead, Ogunbawale, Samuels
Julio, Arob, Woods, Sims Jr, Claypool, Duvernay, Isabella, Conley, Tyrell
Waller, Hurst, Jarwin, Boyle
12 team ppr 4 point pass td, superflex, 1.5 TE ppr
Goff, Minshew, Hill, Alllen, Walker
Chubb, Taylor, Henry, Singletary, David Johnson, Damien Harris, Hyde, Boone, Blasingame
Tyreek, Boyd, Diontae, Marvin Jones, Pittman, Nkeal, Duvernay, Sims Jr, Stills
Waller, Higbee, Arnold, Olsen, Parkinson, Sample
20 team ppr 6 point pass td, .05 point per return yard
Matt Ryan
Fournette, Singletary, Harris, Cohen, Duke Johnson, Trey Edmunds
Davante Adams, Tyreek, Sutton, Boyd, Dorsett, Tyrell
Kittle, Jarwin, Oliver
Re: A very bad trade when changing from 1QB to 2QB league
Yeah that's a pathetic trade. He's basically kicking the picks down the road, but also getting rid of his early ones in exchange for later picks. 0 QB and he won't be able to draft any... He will certainly lose every single game played
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Re: A very bad trade when changing from 1QB to 2QB league
That trade sure does have an odor. Why would a not so good team swap a bunch of picks with a good team? The fact that the good team is the commish is concerning as well. He should stay away from lopsided trades like this.
Re: A very bad trade when changing from 1QB to 2QB league
Obviously collusion. Leave the league.
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
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Tm 5
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Tm 6
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12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
Re: A very bad trade when changing from 1QB to 2QB league
I was expecting to see a much different trade after reading your post. I’m not sure what that even is. I would just leave the league
Dynasty Team 1:
10 Man, Full PPR, .2 PPC, Double Flex
QB: Kyler Murray
RB: Saquon Barkley , Breece Hall, Swift, Dobbins, Gibson, CEH
WR: Devante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Jamarr Chase, DK Metcalf, Devonta Smith, Jerry Jeudy
TE: Travis Kelce
2023 Picks: 1.4, 1.8, 2.9, 3.2, 3.6, 3.8
Dynasty Team 2:
10 Man, Half PPR, Double Flex
QB: Tua
RB: Barkley , Mixon, Javonte, Jacobs, CEH
WR: AJB, Tyreek, Lamb, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Kittle
2022 Picks: 1.5, 1.6, 2.3
2023 Picks: 2 x 1st, 2 x 2nd
10 Man, Full PPR, .2 PPC, Double Flex
QB: Kyler Murray
RB: Saquon Barkley , Breece Hall, Swift, Dobbins, Gibson, CEH
WR: Devante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Jamarr Chase, DK Metcalf, Devonta Smith, Jerry Jeudy
TE: Travis Kelce
2023 Picks: 1.4, 1.8, 2.9, 3.2, 3.6, 3.8
Dynasty Team 2:
10 Man, Half PPR, Double Flex
QB: Tua
RB: Barkley , Mixon, Javonte, Jacobs, CEH
WR: AJB, Tyreek, Lamb, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Kittle
2022 Picks: 1.5, 1.6, 2.3
2023 Picks: 2 x 1st, 2 x 2nd
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Re: A very bad trade when changing from 1QB to 2QB league
The commish is clearly not trustworthy. His job when transitioning the format like this is to make sure everyone is aware of the values, for the good of the league. I would say my piece, make it public so the rest of the league understands this, and if it isn't reversed, leave the league.
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Habaneros make the best tasting hot sauce. Throwing a bunch of random stuff on top of fries doesn't mean you call it "poutine".
Foodie. Well done steak goes in the trash.
Habaneros make the best tasting hot sauce. Throwing a bunch of random stuff on top of fries doesn't mean you call it "poutine".
Re: A very bad trade when changing from 1QB to 2QB league
I think you're being too kind saying it isn't collusion.
Re: A very bad trade when changing from 1QB to 2QB league
I fail to see a scenario where this trade makes sense. Why basically trade out of this year and almost definitely down next year to pick up a first second and third in 2 years? I can't think of league settings that would justify this trade.
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Re: A very bad trade when changing from 1QB to 2QB league
The sad thing is, this is a deal that a commish would need to look into heavily and meticulously......except it's the commish involved. He's a bad commish, whatever way you slice it.
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Foodie. Well done steak goes in the trash.
Habaneros make the best tasting hot sauce. Throwing a bunch of random stuff on top of fries doesn't mean you call it "poutine".
Foodie. Well done steak goes in the trash.
Habaneros make the best tasting hot sauce. Throwing a bunch of random stuff on top of fries doesn't mean you call it "poutine".
Re: A very bad trade when changing from 1QB to 2QB league
Thanks for all the answers.
I was expecting y'all to say Something like. This is just a bad trade.
I will speak my mind.
I was expecting y'all to say Something like. This is just a bad trade.
I will speak my mind.
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers
QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle
Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ 2020 third place
QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns
Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K
QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon
QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle
Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ 2020 third place
QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns
Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K
QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon
Re: A very bad trade when changing from 1QB to 2QB league
Yes. I know commissioners want to win just as much as anyone else, but they need to have the overall good of the league in mind too.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 10:08 am The sad thing is, this is a deal that a commish would need to look into heavily and meticulously......except it's the commish involved. He's a bad commish, whatever way you slice it.
This is clearly not that case. The deal cannot be defended any other way than a huge win for the commish. It would be one thing if it involved relevant players as then it can be argued that their values change. But it doesnt.
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Re: A very bad trade when changing from 1QB to 2QB league
I would first try to DM the commissioner to talk him into reversing this deal for the good of the league before airing it out in public. You may have more success dealing with this issue privately so he doesn't feel cornered into defending his position. However, failing that, you need to bring this to the public arena.
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Re: A very bad trade when changing from 1QB to 2QB league
I can't even believe you could get guys to agree to go to a SF without a complete new draft.
On the surface the Commish should throw himself out of the league but you should talk privately first to hear the justification.
I would have left the league prior to going to a SF without a new draft. SF is a completely different game.
Good Luck but this one smells really bad.
On the surface the Commish should throw himself out of the league but you should talk privately first to hear the justification.
I would have left the league prior to going to a SF without a new draft. SF is a completely different game.
Good Luck but this one smells really bad.
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Re: A very bad trade when changing from 1QB to 2QB league
As a Commissioner I would never get involved in a trade like that, because its shady....The trade was flat out unhealthy for the league. If the rebuilding owner quits, who is going to want to pay to take over that dumpster fire?
You should consult with other league members, and ask that it be brought to a vote.
The Commissioner and the other owner don't get to vote on the trade, if 50% or greater of the league votes against it, then the trade gets reversed. Just my .2.
You should consult with other league members, and ask that it be brought to a vote.
The Commissioner and the other owner don't get to vote on the trade, if 50% or greater of the league votes against it, then the trade gets reversed. Just my .2.
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QB - | Rodgers | Herbert | Mills
RB - CMC | Chubb | Dobbins | Keaontay Ingram
WR - McLaurin | Deebo | Waddle | Gabriel Davis | Elijah Moore | Mooney | C Ridley | Jameson Williams | Pickens | Alec Pierce | Wan'dale Robinson | Justyn Ross | B Edwards
TE - M Andrews | Friermuth
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RB - CMC | Chubb | Dobbins | Keaontay Ingram
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