Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby Menace2010 » Mon May 20, 2024 10:22 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 8:59 pm Doing some mocks, who do you like in these situations—

Davis BUF RB or Estime DEN RB
Polk NEP WR or Corley NYJ WR
Davis and Polk by solid margins...

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby BabyChark23 » Tue May 21, 2024 4:50 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 8:59 pm Doing some mocks, who do you like in these situations—

Davis BUF RB or Estime DEN RB
Polk NEP WR or Corley NYJ WR
Estime and Polk for me.

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby Shcritters » Tue May 21, 2024 6:49 am

BabyChark23 wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 4:50 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 8:59 pm Doing some mocks, who do you like in these situations—

Davis BUF RB or Estime DEN RB
Polk NEP WR or Corley NYJ WR
Estime and Polk for me.
Estime and Polk for me. I think it's 50-50 on if DEN brings Javante back given the state of their roster (so many holes and needs for cap space), and he'll likely command higher $'s elsewhere. Perine is gone after this year... so there's a path there for Estime. As to Davis, he's RB2 AT BEST with Cook there, and with how much they throw I don't know how great of upside he has on touches/carries (especially with Cook as the passing down back).

Polk has the inside track to the WR1 role in NE (for this year, they likely bring in someone else next year). In NYJ, Wilson is there for the forseeable future, as is Hall. I could see Corley emerging there, but Polk is going significantly earlier in drafts than Corley (probably close to a full round in SF).
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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed May 22, 2024 12:27 pm

Where do we stand on NEP TE Jaheim Bell? 7th round pick. 4th on the depth charts in NEP, Hunter Henry at the top. Is he worth a WW grab in a TEP league or are there much better options? I heard good things coming out.
D3:
QB—Allen, JJM RB—Gibbs, Kamara, Jacobs, LLOYD, Zamir, Edwards, Ford, Warren, McLaughlin WR—MHJ, Lamb, Olave, DJM, Shaheed, RICE, VJefferson TE—Engram, Muth, Washington, Kraft, THEO PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK, CORLEY, COWING, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING, MWASHINGTON TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS, Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE, Goff, Cousins, PENIX RB: Bijan, BRob, Zamir, Allgeier, McLaughlin, Hull WR: HARRISON, DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, COWING, Reynolds TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Hurst, WILEY, Trautman, Tremble, Dissly, Reiman

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby mild » Wed May 22, 2024 2:38 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 12:27 pm Where do we stand on NEP TE Jaheim Bell? 7th round pick. 4th on the depth charts in NEP, Hunter Henry at the top. Is he worth a WW grab in a TEP league or are there much better options? I heard good things coming out.
I liked his profile too, but he needs too many things to go his way to be worth the roster spot. I think leave him on the wire for now. All you'd do is tip your league off that you like him, probably needlessly at this stage.

You'd honestly be better off adding Tyler Conklin or something.

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed May 22, 2024 2:44 pm

mild wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 2:38 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 12:27 pm Where do we stand on NEP TE Jaheim Bell? 7th round pick. 4th on the depth charts in NEP, Hunter Henry at the top. Is he worth a WW grab in a TEP league or are there much better options? I heard good things coming out.
I liked his profile too, but he needs too many things to go his way to be worth the roster spot. I think leave him on the wire for now. All you'd do is tip your league off that you like him, probably needlessly at this stage.

You'd honestly be better off adding Tyler Conklin or something.
Yeah, the TE pickings in my TEP league are, of course, very thin. Very few TEs on the WW—

Wiley (have 15% bid in)
Bell (low bid—may delete)
Cowing (have 10% bid in)
Hurst (have small bid in)

I have room on my bench to hold a few guys like this. Beyond that it's Dissly, Moreau, Hudon, Smythe, Parham, etc.
D3:
QB—Allen, JJM RB—Gibbs, Kamara, Jacobs, LLOYD, Zamir, Edwards, Ford, Warren, McLaughlin WR—MHJ, Lamb, Olave, DJM, Shaheed, RICE, VJefferson TE—Engram, Muth, Washington, Kraft, THEO PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK, CORLEY, COWING, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING, MWASHINGTON TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS, Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE, Goff, Cousins, PENIX RB: Bijan, BRob, Zamir, Allgeier, McLaughlin, Hull WR: HARRISON, DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, COWING, Reynolds TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Hurst, WILEY, Trautman, Tremble, Dissly, Reiman

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby Cameron Giles » Wed May 22, 2024 3:03 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 12:27 pm Where do we stand on NEP TE Jaheim Bell? 7th round pick. 4th on the depth charts in NEP, Hunter Henry at the top. Is he worth a WW grab in a TEP league or are there much better options? I heard good things coming out.
Needed better draft pedigree.

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed May 22, 2024 3:05 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:03 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 12:27 pm Where do we stand on NEP TE Jaheim Bell? 7th round pick. 4th on the depth charts in NEP, Hunter Henry at the top. Is he worth a WW grab in a TEP league or are there much better options? I heard good things coming out.
Needed better draft pedigree.
Yeah, agree.
D3:
QB—Allen, JJM RB—Gibbs, Kamara, Jacobs, LLOYD, Zamir, Edwards, Ford, Warren, McLaughlin WR—MHJ, Lamb, Olave, DJM, Shaheed, RICE, VJefferson TE—Engram, Muth, Washington, Kraft, THEO PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK, CORLEY, COWING, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING, MWASHINGTON TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS, Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE, Goff, Cousins, PENIX RB: Bijan, BRob, Zamir, Allgeier, McLaughlin, Hull WR: HARRISON, DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, COWING, Reynolds TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Hurst, WILEY, Trautman, Tremble, Dissly, Reiman

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed May 22, 2024 8:14 pm

Only league I’d bother even considering burning a roster spot on him, would be 16T TEP with start 2 TE minimum
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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TEAM C - 32T (2 copy), 1QB, TEP
TUA, J Daniels
KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Nabers, Pittman, Diggs, Polk
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert
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TEAM F - 12T, SF & TEP
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed May 22, 2024 8:30 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 8:14 pm Only league I’d bother even considering burning a roster spot on him, would be 16T TEP with start 2 TE minimum
Cool. Thanks.
D3:
QB—Allen, JJM RB—Gibbs, Kamara, Jacobs, LLOYD, Zamir, Edwards, Ford, Warren, McLaughlin WR—MHJ, Lamb, Olave, DJM, Shaheed, RICE, VJefferson TE—Engram, Muth, Washington, Kraft, THEO PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK, CORLEY, COWING, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING, MWASHINGTON TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS, Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE, Goff, Cousins, PENIX RB: Bijan, BRob, Zamir, Allgeier, McLaughlin, Hull WR: HARRISON, DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, COWING, Reynolds TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Hurst, WILEY, Trautman, Tremble, Dissly, Reiman

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby stoneghost28 » Thu May 23, 2024 10:04 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 4:35 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 2:45 pm
stoneghost28 wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 2:42 pm

There's a lot that is alarming about him. Someone who keeps heavy ties on Husky football just talked about how habitually he disappeared in big games, I just really don't like that he did nothing for years until he was an overage prospect. Breakout age matters. Otoh, it's also reasonable to argue he's got nice draft capital, and a lot of opportunity, as a Redskins/WFT fan, I was beyond pissed we took Daniels instead of Maye, I view Maye as the much better long term NFL prospect. So he has his QB, he's got an open WR room, but his CV sucks until this past year.

You could go after him, but I'd be cautious, he's definitely not a guy I'd reach for. If he falls to you, w/the early 2nd draft capital, sure, but I'm not taking him earlier than ADP (and probably not ADP).
I took him at 2.10 in a 1 QB and wasn't really happy, but that's why I liked seeing the praise on here.
Really?? That’s pretty insane value, considering he was just a couple picks removed from the first round of the real NFL draft. Getting a dude with that type of early drafts capital, let alone a very solid landing spot, at 2.10 is delicious.
He's 2.10 in MFL 1QB ADP the past month overall in a touch under 100 MFL rookie drafts so he basically landed him exactly where he's going. I think the draft capital argument is sound, and at the 2/3 turn in rookie drafts, if you aren't flipping the pick for a vet or future picks, getting a WR who went very early day 2 isn't a bad idea, I'm just skeptical of his profile. It's pretty alarming, but the lack of competition there means he should get plenty of opportunity which isn't true of most rookie picks taken in dynasty drafts at the 2/3 turn.

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Thu May 23, 2024 11:06 am

For those of you in 1 QB leagues, where is Caleb going? I have the 1.01 and am taking Harrison, but I'm trying to trade back in to get Caleb if possible. Right now I'm targeting the 1.05 as the guy is open to the trade. Most teams have 2-3 starting QBs, I only have Allen right now. Thanks!

(And yes, I am looking at this rookie draft thread viewtopic.php?t=29230)
D3:
QB—Allen, JJM RB—Gibbs, Kamara, Jacobs, LLOYD, Zamir, Edwards, Ford, Warren, McLaughlin WR—MHJ, Lamb, Olave, DJM, Shaheed, RICE, VJefferson TE—Engram, Muth, Washington, Kraft, THEO PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK, CORLEY, COWING, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING, MWASHINGTON TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS, Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE, Goff, Cousins, PENIX RB: Bijan, BRob, Zamir, Allgeier, McLaughlin, Hull WR: HARRISON, DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, COWING, Reynolds TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Hurst, WILEY, Trautman, Tremble, Dissly, Reiman

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby Menace2010 » Thu May 23, 2024 11:43 am

I play in mostly 14-16 team leagues so the value of QB is inflated, but he is yet to fall out or the top 5.

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Thu May 23, 2024 11:47 am

Menace2010 wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 11:43 am I play in mostly 14-16 team leagues so the value of QB is inflated, but he is yet to fall out or the top 5.
Thanks, yeah, that's about the range I'm seeing. 5-8. He went 1.08 in one of my 1 qb leagues where RBs are a premium. Brooks went at 1.04.
D3:
QB—Allen, JJM RB—Gibbs, Kamara, Jacobs, LLOYD, Zamir, Edwards, Ford, Warren, McLaughlin WR—MHJ, Lamb, Olave, DJM, Shaheed, RICE, VJefferson TE—Engram, Muth, Washington, Kraft, THEO PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK, CORLEY, COWING, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING, MWASHINGTON TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS, Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE, Goff, Cousins, PENIX RB: Bijan, BRob, Zamir, Allgeier, McLaughlin, Hull WR: HARRISON, DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, COWING, Reynolds TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Hurst, WILEY, Trautman, Tremble, Dissly, Reiman

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby Anteaters » Thu May 23, 2024 12:19 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 11:06 am For those of you in 1 QB leagues, where is Caleb going? I have the 1.01 and am taking Harrison, but I'm trying to trade back in to get Caleb if possible. Right now I'm targeting the 1.05 as the guy is open to the trade. Most teams have 2-3 starting QBs, I only have Allen right now. Thanks!

(And yes, I am looking at this rookie draft thread viewtopic.php?t=29230)
In a 12tm 1qb keeper league with a rookie+freeagents draft, I got Caleb as the 9th rookie drafted. JDanies was the 15th rookie pick. JJM was the 16th rookie drafted.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
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TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver, Waller
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