Another Bad Offer?

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Another Bad Offer?

Postby wickerkat1212 » Sat May 11, 2024 10:04 pm

Dynasty #3, full team in signature, 1 qb, we start qb-rb-rb-wr-wr-wr-te-flex-k-d.

GUY SENT

Wilson, Russell PIT QB
Cook, Dalvin BAL RB
Hill, Justice BAL RB
Boutte, Kayshon NEP WR
Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.02

for

White, Zamir LVR RB
Olave, Chris NOS WR
Year 2024 Draft Pick 2.10
Year 2024 Draft Pick 3.01
Year 2024 Draft Pick 3.02

This is an easy pass, right?

My starters are—

Allen (no 2nd qb)
Jacobs, Kamara (Warren, Ford, Edwards)
Lamb, Puka, Olave, DJM (Iosivas, Marshall, Tucker)
Ferguson (Kraft, Schoon, Washington)
FLEX—ZWhite/Harrison (R)
K
D

I have the 1.01 (Harrison), 2.10, 3.01, 3.02, 3.09, 3.10
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Another Bad Offer?

Postby TheTroll » Sat May 11, 2024 10:31 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 10:04 pm Dynasty #3, full team in signature, 1 qb, we start qb-rb-rb-wr-wr-wr-te-flex-k-d.

GUY SENT

Wilson, Russell PIT QB
Cook, Dalvin BAL RB
Hill, Justice BAL RB
Boutte, Kayshon NEP WR
Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.02

for

White, Zamir LVR RB
Olave, Chris NOS WR
Year 2024 Draft Pick 2.10
Year 2024 Draft Pick 3.01
Year 2024 Draft Pick 3.02

This is an easy pass, right?

My starters are—

Allen (no 2nd qb)
Jacobs, Kamara (Warren, Ford, Edwards)
Lamb, Puka, Olave, DJM (Iosivas, Marshall, Tucker)
Ferguson (Kraft, Schoon, Washington)
FLEX—ZWhite/Harrison (R)
K
D

I have the 1.01 (Harrison), 2.10, 3.01, 3.02, 3.09, 3.10
Not horrible. The first 4 players he is offering is just people he would have dropped anyways. This is really 1.02 for White/Olave and picks.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Another Bad Offer?

Postby Black Adam » Sat May 11, 2024 10:40 pm

TheTroll wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 10:31 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 10:04 pm Dynasty #3, full team in signature, 1 qb, we start qb-rb-rb-wr-wr-wr-te-flex-k-d.

GUY SENT

Wilson, Russell PIT QB
Cook, Dalvin BAL RB
Hill, Justice BAL RB
Boutte, Kayshon NEP WR
Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.02

for

White, Zamir LVR RB
Olave, Chris NOS WR
Year 2024 Draft Pick 2.10
Year 2024 Draft Pick 3.01
Year 2024 Draft Pick 3.02

This is an easy pass, right?

My starters are—

Allen (no 2nd qb)
Jacobs, Kamara (Warren, Ford, Edwards)
Lamb, Puka, Olave, DJM (Iosivas, Marshall, Tucker)
Ferguson (Kraft, Schoon, Washington)
FLEX—ZWhite/Harrison (R)
K
D

I have the 1.01 (Harrison), 2.10, 3.01, 3.02, 3.09, 3.10
Not horrible. The first 4 players he is offering is just people he would have dropped anyways. This is really 1.02 for White/Olave and picks.
I agree that’s what the trade really is but disagree that it’s not horrible.

I’d consider it a bad offer and wouldn’t bother responding to it, OP.
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Re: Another Bad Offer?

Postby henry1jg » Sun May 12, 2024 4:56 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 10:04 pm Dynasty #3, full team in signature, 1 qb, we start qb-rb-rb-wr-wr-wr-te-flex-k-d.

GUY SENT

Wilson, Russell PIT QB
Cook, Dalvin BAL RB
Hill, Justice BAL RB
Boutte, Kayshon NEP WR
Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.02

for

White, Zamir LVR RB
Olave, Chris NOS WR
Year 2024 Draft Pick 2.10
Year 2024 Draft Pick 3.01
Year 2024 Draft Pick 3.02

This is an easy pass, right?

My starters are—

Allen (no 2nd qb)
Jacobs, Kamara (Warren, Ford, Edwards)
Lamb, Puka, Olave, DJM (Iosivas, Marshall, Tucker)
Ferguson (Kraft, Schoon, Washington)
FLEX—ZWhite/Harrison (R)
K
D

I have the 1.01 (Harrison), 2.10, 3.01, 3.02, 3.09, 3.10
So do you like Nabers/Odunze or Olave & Zamir?

I like picks as much as anyone, but the 2.10 in a single QB with no IDP is a total long shot. I also am not a Zamir believer

I think I would take the trade, even if only to flip the 1.02 for better value
Barrow Snowmen- 14 team - 0.5 PPR, IDP - Yr 19
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Re: Another Bad Offer?

Postby Tvols » Sun May 12, 2024 5:22 am

I dont thinks its bad would I take it no, but its close. I want to clear out the trash and present him a deal you like.
16 teamer
QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP

Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin

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Re: Another Bad Offer?

Postby Anteaters » Sun May 12, 2024 6:19 am

Tvols wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 5:22 amI dont thinks its bad would I take it no, but its close. I want to clear out the trash and present him a deal you like.
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I wouldn't accept it as is, but depending on how someone feels about Nabers/Odunze versus Olave, I think the offer is a decent conversation starter.

It's reasonable that some managers may feel Olave has plateaued, and they might wish to reset with a WR they feel has a higher ceiling. I like Olave, but it's not like he's actually cashed in on what most see as his potential by giving us even one T18WR season yet. Production wise, Olave is much less than DKM/Pittman -- I wonder if this offer included DKM or Pittman instead of Olave, would the reaction be as negative?
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: Another Bad Offer?

Postby wickerkat1212 » Sun May 12, 2024 7:08 pm

Thoughts on a counter? What about just Olave + Zamir for 1.02 straight up? I'm just not sure on Nabers in NYC.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Another Bad Offer?

Postby FiremanEd » Sun May 12, 2024 7:34 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 7:08 pm Thoughts on a counter? What about just Olave + Zamir for 1.02 straight up? I'm just not sure on Nabers in NYC.
If you’re not sold on Nabers, that is a safe play. Olave has a safe floor and Zamir will get work at a position you may need. RB2 season is realistic for him given the depth chart. Don’t love the player, but opportunity pays at RB.

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Re: Another Bad Offer?

Postby wickerkat1212 » Sun May 12, 2024 10:06 pm

FiremanEd wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 7:34 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 7:08 pm Thoughts on a counter? What about just Olave + Zamir for 1.02 straight up? I'm just not sure on Nabers in NYC.
If you’re not sold on Nabers, that is a safe play. Olave has a safe floor and Zamir will get work at a position you may need. RB2 season is realistic for him given the depth chart. Don’t love the player, but opportunity pays at RB.
I love Nabers as a player, just don't like the situation in NYG enough to give up a TON. But I could probably say Olave is in a similar situation—questionable QB, not a lot of talent around him at WR. IDK. It's a tough call. Olave is only 23 and just had season with 87/1100/5. Was WR20 in my leagues. And I'm starting him as my WR4 behind Lamb, Puka, and DJM. So am I trading Olave and hoping Nabers is Olave? I have to hope he's BETTER than WR20 which is expecting him to be pretty elite. IDK. Torn.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble


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