AJB v Nabers

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AJB v Nabers

Postby bigbuck22 » Sat May 11, 2024 7:45 pm

AJB or Nabers and what is the difference?

I'm a contending team with Brown. I really like Nabers despite landing in NY. His appeal isn't quite what it was pre-draft, but I've been trying to find a way to snag him. It hasn't happened. Making Brown part of the deal might be my only way. I feel like losing AJB and adding Nabers probably hurts my bottom line over the next two years though.

How does everyone feel about these two and what it might do to my weekly total? Team in sig
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Re: AJB v Nabers

Postby NathanielWegman » Sat May 11, 2024 7:56 pm

It’s likely to hurt you this season but I’d gamble on the upside of Nabers. You have the WR depth to take the gamble, if it can even be considered a gamble
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Re: AJB v Nabers

Postby SoftwoodGrampian » Sat May 11, 2024 8:16 pm

Nabers straight by a tiny smidge

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Re: AJB v Nabers

Postby bigbuck22 » Sat May 11, 2024 8:21 pm

SoftwoodGrampian wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 8:16 pm Nabers straight by a tiny smidge
Curious how you would project stats/fantasy points for the two over the next couple of years?

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Re: AJB v Nabers

Postby Tvols » Sat May 11, 2024 8:43 pm

I think the stats won’t be too different there no one else for the giants to throw who really any good
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Re: AJB v Nabers

Postby moishetreats » Sat May 11, 2024 9:01 pm

Over the past two years in Philly, Brown has averaged 164 targets / 97 / 1,476 / 9.

There's no realistic reason to think that he won't continue a similar pace for the next two years.

There's no realistic reason to think that Nabers will do that in the next two years. And that kind of stat line is probably his (or just about any WR's) ceiling.

In a rebuild, I could argue for Nabers over AJB. On a competitive team, taking Nabers over AJB doesn't make any sense to me.
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Re: AJB v Nabers

Postby TheTroll » Sat May 11, 2024 10:28 pm

If you drafted Nabers you are keeping him. If you have AJB you could need to be rebuilding to trade him for Nabers straight up. If you couldn’t find away to trade up in the draft to pick Nabers, then you didn’t want him bad enough.
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Re: AJB v Nabers

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat May 11, 2024 11:37 pm

moishetreats wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 9:01 pm Over the past two years in Philly, Brown has averaged 164 targets / 97 / 1,476 / 9.

There's no realistic reason to think that he won't continue a similar pace for the next two years.

There's no realistic reason to think that Nabers will do that in the next two years. And that kind of stat line is probably his (or just about any WR's) ceiling.

In a rebuild, I could argue for Nabers over AJB. On a competitive team, taking Nabers over AJB doesn't make any sense to me.
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Re: AJB v Nabers

Postby Black Adam » Sun May 12, 2024 2:37 am

moishetreats wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 9:01 pm Over the past two years in Philly, Brown has averaged 164 targets / 97 / 1,476 / 9.

There's no realistic reason to think that he won't continue a similar pace for the next two years.

There's no realistic reason to think that Nabers will do that in the next two years. And that kind of stat line is probably his (or just about any WR's) ceiling.

In a rebuild, I could argue for Nabers over AJB. On a competitive team, taking Nabers over AJB doesn't make any sense to me.
I think 97 rec / 151.5 trg / 1,476 yds / 9 td is definitely doable by year 2 for Nabers.

In any case, Imma take the better athlete and football prospect that's 6 years younger, but to I can definitely see both sides. :think:
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Re: AJB v Nabers

Postby Bulletproof » Sun May 12, 2024 4:33 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 11:37 pm
moishetreats wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 9:01 pm Over the past two years in Philly, Brown has averaged 164 targets / 97 / 1,476 / 9.

There's no realistic reason to think that he won't continue a similar pace for the next two years.

There's no realistic reason to think that Nabers will do that in the next two years. And that kind of stat line is probably his (or just about any WR's) ceiling.

In a rebuild, I could argue for Nabers over AJB. On a competitive team, taking Nabers over AJB doesn't make any sense to me.
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Re: AJB v Nabers

Postby SoftwoodGrampian » Sun May 12, 2024 5:54 am

bigbuck22 wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 8:21 pm
SoftwoodGrampian wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 8:16 pm Nabers straight by a tiny smidge
Curious how you would project stats/fantasy points for the two over the next couple of years?
2024 AJB isn’t going to put up 2022-23 AJB numbers. I’d expect yardage to come down. 2024 Nabers also looks different from future Nabers, in that his numbers will look inflated via target volume - probably a WR2/3. By year two I like both players for close to 100/1200/8

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Re: AJB v Nabers

Postby bigbuck22 » Sun May 12, 2024 7:38 am

SoftwoodGrampian wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 5:54 am
bigbuck22 wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 8:21 pm
SoftwoodGrampian wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 8:16 pm Nabers straight by a tiny smidge
Curious how you would project stats/fantasy points for the two over the next couple of years?
2024 AJB isn’t going to put up 2022-23 AJB numbers. I’d expect yardage to come down. 2024 Nabers also looks different from future Nabers, in that his numbers will look inflated via target volume - probably a WR2/3. By year two I like both players for close to 100/1200/8
What about year 2 Nabers or NYG QB situation makes you think he'll see 100/1200/8?

'24 projections I'm seeing have him between 65-75/900-950/5. That would be a disappointment and mean he'd need to take a big jump in '25 to reach those year two numbers.

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Re: AJB v Nabers

Postby Blumpy » Sun May 12, 2024 7:40 am

I agree with most that Nabers for rebuild and AJB for compete now. Difference in price is not much otherwise. Giants QB situation is icky and next year there's no slam dunks for QB prospects yet
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Re: AJB v Nabers

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun May 12, 2024 9:55 am

SoftwoodGrampian wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 5:54 am
bigbuck22 wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 8:21 pm
SoftwoodGrampian wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 8:16 pm Nabers straight by a tiny smidge
Curious how you would project stats/fantasy points for the two over the next couple of years?
2024 AJB isn’t going to put up 2022-23 AJB numbers. I’d expect yardage to come down. 2024 Nabers also looks different from future Nabers, in that his numbers will look inflated via target volume - probably a WR2/3. By year two I like both players for close to 100/1200/8
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Re: AJB v Nabers

Postby bigbuck22 » Sun May 12, 2024 10:08 am

moishetreats wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 9:01 pm Over the past two years in Philly, Brown has averaged 164 targets / 97 / 1,476 / 9.

There's no realistic reason to think that he won't continue a similar pace for the next two years.

There's no realistic reason to think that Nabers will do that in the next two years. And that kind of stat line is probably his (or just about any WR's) ceiling.

In a rebuild, I could argue for Nabers over AJB. On a competitive team, taking Nabers over AJB doesn't make any sense to me.
Do you see a pathway for Nabers' value to fall a bit through year 1 making an attempt to acquire him now a bit risky?


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