K Murray + what = B. Robinson?
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K Murray + what = B. Robinson?
I need some objective opinions. In a 16 team SF, Kyler Murray plus what equals Bijan Robinson?
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Re: K Murray + what = B. Robinson?
IMO, in a 16tmSF
Bijan+? = Kyler
Bijan+? = Kyler
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
Re: K Murray + what = B. Robinson?
No doubt! 10 teamer is a different discussion.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Re: K Murray + what = B. Robinson?
I guess I should have added that the QB scoring is somewhat repressed in this league. Passing TDs are 4 pts. and interceptions are -3 pts. The top 3 last year were non QBs and 2 3rds of the top 24 were also non QBs. Does that change the equation at all?
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Re: K Murray + what = B. Robinson?
What are the starting RB requirements? If it's 2, that sort of equals out the extra teams vs a 12 team league, as RB's are scarcer there, too.
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Re: K Murray + what = B. Robinson?
It's a must start 2 RBs league. In this setup I think an elite RB has a similar value as an elite QB.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:53 am What are the starting RB requirements? If it's 2, that sort of equals out the extra teams vs a 12 team league, as RB's are scarcer there, too.
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Re: K Murray + what = B. Robinson?
Kyler has scored as many as 37 combined TDs (11 rushing) in a single season. Kyler has rushed for over 800yds in a season. Kyler is 26 years old. Kyler has arguably the best young TE in the league. Kyler is getting the best rookie WR in the draft later this month.Hottoddies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:51 am I guess I should have added that the QB scoring is somewhat repressed in this league. Passing TDs are 4 pts. and interceptions are -3 pts. The top 3 last year were non QBs and 2 3rds of the top 24 were also non QBs. Does that change the equation at all?
I don't see any way Bijan is worth more than Kyler in any 16tmSF league.
It's fine if you have a gut feeling or if Bijan is your guy and you want to go get him. When it comes to this hobby, we should all make the trades to acquire players that excite us.
But I don't think the numbers/stats/facts will support a Kyler:Bijan swap. And adding to Kyler makes this a very bad deal.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
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Re: K Murray + what = B. Robinson?
I accepted the offer:Anteaters wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:08 pmKyler has scored as many as 37 combined TDs (11 rushing) in a single season. Kyler has rushed for over 800yds in a season. Kyler is 26 years old. Kyler has arguably the best young TE in the league. Kyler is getting the best rookie WR in the draft later this month.Hottoddies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:51 am I guess I should have added that the QB scoring is somewhat repressed in this league. Passing TDs are 4 pts. and interceptions are -3 pts. The top 3 last year were non QBs and 2 3rds of the top 24 were also non QBs. Does that change the equation at all?
I don't see any way Bijan is worth more than Kyler in any 16tmSF league.
It's fine if you have a gut feeling or if Bijan is your guy and you want to go get him. When it comes to this hobby, we should all make the trades to acquire players that excite us.
But I don't think the numbers/stats/facts will support a Kyler:Bijan swap. And adding to Kyler makes this a very bad deal.
I gave: Bijan Robinson + 2025 4th
I received: Kyler Murray + 2.13 + 2025 2nd
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Re: K Murray + what = B. Robinson?
LOL. All this time I thought you were buying Bijan.Hottoddies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:14 pmI accepted the offer:Anteaters wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:08 pmKyler has scored as many as 37 combined TDs (11 rushing) in a single season. Kyler has rushed for over 800yds in a season. Kyler is 26 years old. Kyler has arguably the best young TE in the league. Kyler is getting the best rookie WR in the draft later this month.Hottoddies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:51 am I guess I should have added that the QB scoring is somewhat repressed in this league. Passing TDs are 4 pts. and interceptions are -3 pts. The top 3 last year were non QBs and 2 3rds of the top 24 were also non QBs. Does that change the equation at all?
I don't see any way Bijan is worth more than Kyler in any 16tmSF league.
It's fine if you have a gut feeling or if Bijan is your guy and you want to go get him. When it comes to this hobby, we should all make the trades to acquire players that excite us.
But I don't think the numbers/stats/facts will support a Kyler:Bijan swap. And adding to Kyler makes this a very bad deal.
I gave: Bijan Robinson + 2025 4th
I received: Kyler Murray + 2.13 + 2025 2nd
Re: K Murray + what = B. Robinson?
Me too!tstafford wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:28 pmLOL. All this time I thought you were buying Bijan.Hottoddies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:14 pmI accepted the offer:Anteaters wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:08 pm
Kyler has scored as many as 37 combined TDs (11 rushing) in a single season. Kyler has rushed for over 800yds in a season. Kyler is 26 years old. Kyler has arguably the best young TE in the league. Kyler is getting the best rookie WR in the draft later this month.
I don't see any way Bijan is worth more than Kyler in any 16tmSF league.
It's fine if you have a gut feeling or if Bijan is your guy and you want to go get him. When it comes to this hobby, we should all make the trades to acquire players that excite us.
But I don't think the numbers/stats/facts will support a Kyler:Bijan swap. And adding to Kyler makes this a very bad deal.
I gave: Bijan Robinson + 2025 4th
I received: Kyler Murray + 2.13 + 2025 2nd
Hottoddies, glad this trade was the other way around! Hope it works out for you!
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
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Re: K Murray + what = B. Robinson?
Exactly!!
QB has the advantage in 16 team SF league, UNLESS, this is a trick SF league with no QB slot.
Many larger leagues (I've been in 16 and 20 team leagues) have no QB slot, only a SF slot.
In that case this would play like a 1 QB 16 team league, or an 8 team SF league.
Re: K Murray + what = B. Robinson?
Never seen that. Interesting twist. But it makes sense.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:01 pmExactly!!
QB has the advantage in 16 team SF league, UNLESS, this is a trick SF league with no QB slot.
Many larger leagues (I've been in 16 and 20 team leagues) have no QB slot, only a SF slot.
In that case this would play like a 1 QB 16 team league, or an 8 team SF league.
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Re: K Murray + what = B. Robinson?
Wait a second......I think I know this league. LOL.
I think you did fine. Knowing the scoring, I think getting Kyler plus for Bijan was a good move for your team.
I think you did fine. Knowing the scoring, I think getting Kyler plus for Bijan was a good move for your team.
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