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McCarthy

Postby nicktahoes » Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:16 am

Is there any scenario where he is the QB2 in dynasty SF? I mean the Vikings is a pretty premium spot. I am at 1.04 and I'm 95% certain through conversations with the guy who has both 1.01 and 1.03 he is going Caleb and Nabors and the guy at 1.02 taking Marv. So I should have second choice at QB.
Team 1: Players of note
PPR--QB, RBx2, WRx3, TE, Superflex, Flex x2
QBs: Lawrence, Stafford, Bunch of backups
RBs: Ekeler, Kamara, Achane, Dillon, Kelley, Moss, Javonte Williams,Jamaal Williams
WRs: Adams, Hopkins, Waddle, Kirk, JSN, Boyd, OBJ, Hyatt, Osborn
TEs: Kelce, Hockenson, Taysom,


and then a few minor players and rookie stashed on taxi

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Re: McCarthy

Postby TheTroll » Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:22 am

No doubt His stock is rising in NFL circles but in Dynasty I don’t see him cracking the top 3. Wouldn’t over think this too much and just take the best QB on the board.

If you really think McCarthy is the bomb, you could move back a couple of spots and still get him.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: McCarthy

Postby SoftwoodGrampian » Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:41 am

Drop back a few spots and take him. Everyone hates him but he’ll surprise us on draft day.

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Re: McCarthy

Postby frerichs5 » Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:49 am

Big if, but IF the Vikings do trade up into the top 5 (and especially if it happens to be top 3)….I personally would have a hard time not putting whoever they draft as QB2 after Caleb.

Offensive supporting cast, and what seems to be a good offensive minded head coach are too much for me to ignore.

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Re: McCarthy

Postby TheTroll » Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:56 am

frerichs5 wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:49 am Big if, but IF the Vikings do trade up into the top 5 (and especially if it happens to be top 3)….I personally would have a hard time not putting whoever they draft as QB2 after Caleb.

Offensive supporting cast, and what seems to be a good offensive minded head coach are too much for me to ignore.
Separate NFL good and Dynasty good. There is zero doubt landing in MInny will be good for whatever QB gets there but long term only. Daniels and Maye project to make immediate results in FF.

JJM was 35th in passing last season.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: McCarthy

Postby SoftwoodGrampian » Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:59 am

TheTroll wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:56 am
frerichs5 wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:49 am Big if, but IF the Vikings do trade up into the top 5 (and especially if it happens to be top 3)….I personally would have a hard time not putting whoever they draft as QB2 after Caleb.

Offensive supporting cast, and what seems to be a good offensive minded head coach are too much for me to ignore.
Separate NFL good and Dynasty good. There is zero doubt landing in MInny will be good for whatever QB gets there but long term only. Daniels and Maye project to make immediate results in FF.

JJM was 35th in passing last season.
Depends how intolerable Darnold becomes.

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Re: McCarthy

Postby frerichs5 » Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:01 am

TheTroll wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:56 am
frerichs5 wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:49 am Big if, but IF the Vikings do trade up into the top 5 (and especially if it happens to be top 3)….I personally would have a hard time not putting whoever they draft as QB2 after Caleb.

Offensive supporting cast, and what seems to be a good offensive minded head coach are too much for me to ignore.
Separate NFL good and Dynasty good. There is zero doubt landing in MInny will be good for whatever QB gets there but long term only. Daniels and Maye project to make immediate results in FF.

JJM was 35th in passing last season.
On a run heavy team. Minnesota is extremely pass heavy. They aren’t going to take him and run the ball. If they take him, they’re obviously projecting him to do well in their system. Apples and oranges.

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Re: McCarthy

Postby TheTroll » Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:15 am

frerichs5 wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:01 am
TheTroll wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:56 am
frerichs5 wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:49 am Big if, but IF the Vikings do trade up into the top 5 (and especially if it happens to be top 3)….I personally would have a hard time not putting whoever they draft as QB2 after Caleb.

Offensive supporting cast, and what seems to be a good offensive minded head coach are too much for me to ignore.
Separate NFL good and Dynasty good. There is zero doubt landing in MInny will be good for whatever QB gets there but long term only. Daniels and Maye project to make immediate results in FF.

JJM was 35th in passing last season.
On a run heavy team. Minnesota is extremely pass heavy. They aren’t going to take him and run the ball. If they take him, they’re obviously projecting him to do well in their system. Apples and oranges.
No argument there, but that would be the definition of an unproven passer but smart game manager. I think he will be successful in the NFL, just not enough to put him over the other two.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: McCarthy

Postby SoftwoodGrampian » Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:28 am

TheTroll wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:15 am
frerichs5 wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:01 am
TheTroll wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:56 am

Separate NFL good and Dynasty good. There is zero doubt landing in MInny will be good for whatever QB gets there but long term only. Daniels and Maye project to make immediate results in FF.

JJM was 35th in passing last season.
On a run heavy team. Minnesota is extremely pass heavy. They aren’t going to take him and run the ball. If they take him, they’re obviously projecting him to do well in their system. Apples and oranges.
No argument there, but that would be the definition of an unproven passer but smart game manager. I think he will be successful in the NFL, just not enough to put him over the other two.
Looks fantastic with ball placement, improvisation, extending the play, presence. IMO

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Re: McCarthy

Postby MacDaddy123 » Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:19 am

I don't see anyway that I would take McCarthy as QB2 off the board.
Obviously the Vikings are a premium landing spot, but best I could do is move McCarthy up to QB3 I think.

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Re: McCarthy

Postby CGW » Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:56 am

If he were to jump Maye and Daniels on April 25th to an attractive landing spot, sure. As of right now, it's all speculation and I don't see him making that kind of jump when the draft gets here. Happy to be wrong though.

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Re: McCarthy

Postby TheTroll » Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:29 am

I think we are starting to cross two topics:

1. Will McCarthy have a chance to be the 2nd NFL QB overall at the NFL draft.

2. Will McCarthy's landing spot in the NFL draft (regardless of what number QB overall he is drafted at), make Dynasty owners consider drafting him QB2 in rookie drafts basically before Daniels or Maye
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: McCarthy

Postby Jrblaha » Mon Apr 01, 2024 6:48 am

TheTroll wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:29 am I think we are starting to cross two topics:

1. Will McCarthy have a chance to be the 2nd NFL QB overall at the NFL draft.

2. Will McCarthy's landing spot in the NFL draft (regardless of what number QB overall he is drafted at), make Dynasty owners consider drafting him QB2 in rookie drafts basically before Daniels or Maye
1) Yes, but probably won’t

2) I could see some bump him in fantasy to #2 after CW as well, but I think in general most people will only be considering him for the QB3/4 line. Long story short I don’t think he’ll be the consensus QB2

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Re: McCarthy

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Apr 01, 2024 8:10 am

no idea. wait till draft and see what happens. baffled as to why people are certain pre-nfl draft that you can move down and still get him
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: McCarthy

Postby HippieJuice » Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:09 am

Drake Maye is just far and away a better prospect. Too many warts on McCarthy's game. Not sure he can throw a 20 yard out. We'll see what the NFL thinks, but I am out.
12 Team SF, TEP / START 10 QB.RB.RB.WR.WR.TE.F.F.F.S
QB, Cousins, D Jones, JField, JStidham, Rush, Bagent
RB, Barkley, JTaylor, RStevenson, JKDobbins, KHunt, PStrong, JeffWilson
WR, Kupp, CKirk, CSutton, JReed, Mooney, JamesonW, RMoore
TE, JFerg, LMusgrave, TKraft
5 spot taxi is empty (can hold for 2 years)
2024 1.02 1.07 2.01 2.05 2.08 3.10 4.10 5.03 5.04 5.10
2025 2- 2nds. 3- 3rds, 2-4ths, 1-5th
2026 1,2,3,4,5


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