2023 week 14

[Bronco Billy]

For the Kelce reception then lateral to Toney who gets the TD, without the penalty neglecting the play, how would it have scored for fantasy? Mahomes gets the yardage to Kelce, Kelce get his rec + his yards, then Toney get his yards + TD?

Yes

[Bronco Billy]

Dak is MVP as it stands right now. Guy was on another level tonight. I know Mr. "Butt Putt", "Azz Pass" , "Rump Pump" etc. has had some good numbers, but he did not look all that great tonight, and I think Dak does more vs Purdy in an actual offense. Dak vs Purdy, as it stands, if of course, you factor out Tyreek, which I do, just based on what MVP is now, sadly.

If Dak was on another level last night, where does that put Purdy - who on the road with 30% fewer opportunities put up significantly bigger numbers against the same team the week before?

[TheTroll]

For the Kelce reception then lateral to Toney who gets the TD, without the penalty neglecting the play, how would it have scored for fantasy? Mahomes gets the yardage to Kelce, Kelce get his rec + his yards, then Toney get his yards + TD?

Yes

...and if you play in a Tantrum Premium League, you would also get 10 points for Mahomes too

[Bronco Billy]

As a Mahomes owner, I'm sensing a ton of fatigue when I watch the Chiefs lately. They look tired. They keep doing "enough" to win (except today) but they don't look dominant very much anymore. I worry for what this offense will be without Kelce one day. Rice has some juice and maybe Noah Gray could flash if given the opportunity but they are going to need to add a superstar at some point to keep this a championship team. Feels like they are running on fumes right now. Maybe I'm overreacting but it's just a vibe I'm feeling. I don't see another SB trip this year.

Hill was a lot of the juice that made them dominant.

Agreed. Kelce is still savvy, but he's lost a bit physically, and teams have another year to game plan vs WR's that aren't good. I know they won a SB without Tyreek, but are we really going to pretend that him on that SB team would mean they wouldn't have? Considering how the Chiefs spent that money.....An overpaid tackle that they benched for a while, MVS etc.

Mahomes is a fantastic player, but he's not immune to the talent around him, like any other.

Now let’s just pump the brakes a little on the Mahomes adoration meeting. The truly great QBs made chicken salad out of chicken ****. They lifted otherwise very mediocre players with their play. Look at what Brady had to work with for years and still got it done. Favre made stars out of FBOC Antonio Freeman and Bill Schroeder. Those are a couple of examples.

If you’re saying that Mahomes requires stud receivers to make their offense elite, then maybe Mahomes isn’t the generational stud that he’s purported to be.

[Ruggenater]

Dak is MVP as it stands right now. Guy was on another level tonight. I know Mr. "Butt Putt", "Azz Pass" , "Rump Pump" etc. has had some good numbers, but he did not look all that great tonight, and I think Dak does more vs Purdy in an actual offense. Dak vs Purdy, as it stands, if of course, you factor out Tyreek, which I do, just based on what MVP is now, sadly.

I'd still like the real MVP, Tyreek Hill, to win. On pace to break 2k receiving yards and 17TDs.

I think Hill has a chance, but only if he breaks the single season receiving record. Otherwise, I’d agree that Dak should be the front runner right now.

[Cameron Giles]

Dak is MVP as it stands right now. Guy was on another level tonight. I know Mr. "Butt Putt", "Azz Pass" , "Rump Pump" etc. has had some good numbers, but he did not look all that great tonight, and I think Dak does more vs Purdy in an actual offense. Dak vs Purdy, as it stands, if of course, you factor out Tyreek, which I do, just based on what MVP is now, sadly.

If Dak was on another level last night, where does that put Purdy - who on the road with 30% fewer opportunities put up significantly bigger numbers against the same team the week before?

Yeah, I don't get how Dak is the MVP, but Purdy, who has better numbers across the board and beat Dak H2H and beat Hurts H2H....is not? All these QBs play with a ton of talent whether on offense or being supported by the defense.

[Dynasty DeLorean]

If a QB wins this year they might as well rename the award.

[CGW]

If a QB wins this year they might as well rename the award.

Agree. MVQB.

[Cameron Giles]

If a QB wins this year they might as well rename the award.

Even if Hill goes over 2K, he won't win.

Kupp led the league in receptions, receiving yardage, and receiving TDs two years ago, and was 53 yards away from 2000. And he only finished 3rd that year. The precedent has already been set.

[Anteaters]

If a QB wins this year they might as well rename the award.

Even if Hill goes over 2K, he won't win.

Kupp led the league in receptions, receiving yardage, and receiving TDs two years ago, and was 53 yards away from 2000. And he only finished 3rd that year. The precedent has already been set.

The precedent has been set for WRs who fail to achieve 2000 yards. Tyreek might set (continue) the standard for WRs who succeed at exceeding 2000 yards.

[Forza_Azzurri]

Hill was a lot of the juice that made them dominant.

Agreed. Kelce is still savvy, but he's lost a bit physically, and teams have another year to game plan vs WR's that aren't good. I know they won a SB without Tyreek, but are we really going to pretend that him on that SB team would mean they wouldn't have? Considering how the Chiefs spent that money.....An overpaid tackle that they benched for a while, MVS etc.

Mahomes is a fantastic player, but he's not immune to the talent around him, like any other.

Now let’s just pump the brakes a little on the Mahomes adoration meeting. The truly great QBs made chicken salad out of chicken ****. They lifted otherwise very mediocre players with their play. Look at what Brady had to work with for years and still got it done. Favre made stars out of FBOC Antonio Freeman and Bill Schroeder. Those are a couple of examples.

If you’re saying that Mahomes requires stud receivers to make their offense elite, then maybe Mahomes isn’t the generational stud that he’s purported to be.

If Brady had WRs make boneheaded plays like Toney & MVS, he would’ve lit them up. Talent wise, KC’s WRs aren’t horrible, they need Mahomes To kick them in the a$$.

[hoos89]

Fortunately it sounds like Jefferson has avoided a "significant" injury so hopefully that means he'll be good to go next week.

[Orenthal Shames]

Didn't have "Starting Joe Flacco in the Playoffs" on my 2023 dynasty bingo card

[lukkynumber13]

As a Mahomes owner, I'm sensing a ton of fatigue when I watch the Chiefs lately. They look tired. They keep doing "enough" to win (except today) but they don't look dominant very much anymore. I worry for what this offense will be without Kelce one day. Rice has some juice and maybe Noah Gray could flash if given the opportunity but they are going to need to add a superstar at some point to keep this a championship team. Feels like they are running on fumes right now. Maybe I'm overreacting but it's just a vibe I'm feeling. I don't see another SB trip this year.

I agree with this post but TBH, I wouldn’t be shocked if they made it to the SB, simply because of how bad the AFC is. No matter who comes out of the AFC, I don’t see anyone beating the 49ers. But KC just needs to get past Miami or Baltimore to make the big game, and both the dolphins and the Ravens have some warts for sure.

[hoos89]

It's looking a lot like I'm going to miss a bye in one league because I didn't realize Kelce was out week 1 until the announcers said it a few mins before kickoff and MFL had already locked lineups so I lost by 2.5. I guess I deserve it.