Was offered Hockenson for my 2024 1st

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Was offered Hockenson for my 2024 1st

Postby ff330 » Sat Jun 17, 2023 1:51 pm

Team #3 in sig

Not enough room left in my sig to show my various TE's, but team #3 only has Hunter Henry and Likely right now. Our rookie/FA draft was last month and my first pick was a late 3rd after trading for Adams/Hop in a late playoff push so pretty much all of the top rook TE's were gone by then.

Got two offers this morning with the first one being Hockenson for my 2024 1st and a quick followup of Hock and Brandin Cooks for my 1st/2nd combo.

Hock is looking for his extension deal after his best season but a huge amount of his stats came from just two monster games where he scored almost 40 PPR. The rest of his games were usually something like 5/50 as an average with five more TD's spread out for the remainder of the season.

The FA listing is pretty bare so other than searching for another TE trade partner, I have to wait for our preseason late August cut down and see who might show up. The offering team has Fant, Irv Smith, and drafted Laporta and Mayer, so i expect Smith to be available as a drop but not sure about his comeback in Cincy. My other shot is to take my chances with Henry splitting time with Gesicki and hope for some production out of him.

My trade analyzers say Hock is worth the 1st but I'm not sure this team can afford to give up a probable mid to late 1st (finished in 4th in '22) based on it's needs. Late August cut down will get rid of some wannabees but I need to get younger at WR pretty quick.

Opinions? Thx.
12 team/PPR

1
QB - Mahomes
RB- Jacobs, Pierce, Penny, Mostert, Singletary, Wilson, Mckinnon, Moss, Foreman, Mitchell
WR - Kupp, Waddle, Lockett, Marquise Brown, OBJ
TE - Kincaid

2021/2012 league champion

2
QB - Dak, GSmith
RB - Swift, Mattison, White, Mostert, Gibbs, Foreman, Mitchell, D. Cook
WR - AJB, Kupp, Kirk, C.Samuel, JWilliams, OBJ, Ross
TE - Kittle, Ferguson

3
QB - Allen, Tua
RB - Kamara, AJones, Walker, Chandler, Pierce, Akers, JWilliams, Jaleel M., Mitchell
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Lockett, J. Watson
TE - Kraft, Dulcich

4
QB - Allen, Burrow (IR)
RB - CMC, Kamara, Stevenson, J.Cook, Foreman, J.Wilson, Jaleel, Mitchell
WR - Diggs, Jeudy, Aiyuk, ARSB, MWilliams Mooney, Downs, N. Brown
TE - Kincaid, Engram

2023 league champion

5
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - Chubb, AJones, Akers, Foreman, Moss, Penny, Jaleel, Mitchell, Gray
WR - Adams, MThomas, Waddle, GDavis, Mooney, JWilliams, Downs, Dell, Skyy, Ross
TE - Goedert

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Re: Was offered Hockenson for my 2024 1st

Postby Gator Sens » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:01 pm

Your top end options are aging and your younger pieces are a gamble with upside but concerns. Your 1st could end up mid and then this will have been pretty expensive overall. I would hold as of now and retool in season if the wheels come off.

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Re: Was offered Hockenson for my 2024 1st

Postby ff330 » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:48 pm

Thx Gator. Your input is always appreciated.

My WR room is about to sign up for Social Security benefits so yes I'd rather hold onto the 1st and either save it or maybe look at a trade for a young strong 2nd or 3rd year proven WR.
12 team/PPR

1
QB - Mahomes
RB- Jacobs, Pierce, Penny, Mostert, Singletary, Wilson, Mckinnon, Moss, Foreman, Mitchell
WR - Kupp, Waddle, Lockett, Marquise Brown, OBJ
TE - Kincaid

2021/2012 league champion

2
QB - Dak, GSmith
RB - Swift, Mattison, White, Mostert, Gibbs, Foreman, Mitchell, D. Cook
WR - AJB, Kupp, Kirk, C.Samuel, JWilliams, OBJ, Ross
TE - Kittle, Ferguson

3
QB - Allen, Tua
RB - Kamara, AJones, Walker, Chandler, Pierce, Akers, JWilliams, Jaleel M., Mitchell
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Lockett, J. Watson
TE - Kraft, Dulcich

4
QB - Allen, Burrow (IR)
RB - CMC, Kamara, Stevenson, J.Cook, Foreman, J.Wilson, Jaleel, Mitchell
WR - Diggs, Jeudy, Aiyuk, ARSB, MWilliams Mooney, Downs, N. Brown
TE - Kincaid, Engram

2023 league champion

5
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - Chubb, AJones, Akers, Foreman, Moss, Penny, Jaleel, Mitchell, Gray
WR - Adams, MThomas, Waddle, GDavis, Mooney, JWilliams, Downs, Dell, Skyy, Ross
TE - Goedert

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Re: Was offered Hockenson for my 2024 1st

Postby TheTroll » Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:28 pm

ff330 wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:48 pm Thx Gator. Your input is always appreciated.

My WR room is about to sign up for Social Security benefits so yes I'd rather hold onto the 1st and either save it or maybe look at a trade for a young strong 2nd or 3rd year proven WR.
Lol! Make sure they retire to Florida.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Was offered Hockenson for my 2024 1st

Postby ff330 » Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:38 pm

Looking at AZ myself.

Florida has these giant bugs that buzz down and sweep small children and pets right off the street........and then there's DeSantis........
12 team/PPR

1
QB - Mahomes
RB- Jacobs, Pierce, Penny, Mostert, Singletary, Wilson, Mckinnon, Moss, Foreman, Mitchell
WR - Kupp, Waddle, Lockett, Marquise Brown, OBJ
TE - Kincaid

2021/2012 league champion

2
QB - Dak, GSmith
RB - Swift, Mattison, White, Mostert, Gibbs, Foreman, Mitchell, D. Cook
WR - AJB, Kupp, Kirk, C.Samuel, JWilliams, OBJ, Ross
TE - Kittle, Ferguson

3
QB - Allen, Tua
RB - Kamara, AJones, Walker, Chandler, Pierce, Akers, JWilliams, Jaleel M., Mitchell
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Lockett, J. Watson
TE - Kraft, Dulcich

4
QB - Allen, Burrow (IR)
RB - CMC, Kamara, Stevenson, J.Cook, Foreman, J.Wilson, Jaleel, Mitchell
WR - Diggs, Jeudy, Aiyuk, ARSB, MWilliams Mooney, Downs, N. Brown
TE - Kincaid, Engram

2023 league champion

5
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - Chubb, AJones, Akers, Foreman, Moss, Penny, Jaleel, Mitchell, Gray
WR - Adams, MThomas, Waddle, GDavis, Mooney, JWilliams, Downs, Dell, Skyy, Ross
TE - Goedert

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Re: Was offered Hockenson for my 2024 1st

Postby meineymoe » Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:45 pm

Not a chance. WR is your biggest need. TE is secondary concern at best. Save your 1st for a more helpful option.
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Both teams 16 tm 1/3 ppr idp
QB, RB, 2WR, TE, 2Flex, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 2 Flex

Phoenix Park Suns
QB - Hurts, Darnold, Minshew, Zappe, O'Connell
RB - Ekeler, Conner, Edwards, Strong, McLaughlin, Brooks, Prince
WR - Adams, Tyreek Hill, Deebo Samuel, Zay Jones, M. Thomas, Downs
TE - Goedert, Bellinger
PK - Sanders
DL - Garrett, Paye, Madubuike, Judon
LB - Franklin, Mosley, Edmunds, J. Davis, Bernard, Jack, Mapu, Vander Esch
DB - Metellus, Branch
2024 Picks: 1.14, 2.05 , 2.14, 3.05, 3.14, 6.14

Serenity Valley Browncoats
QB - RWilson, O'Connell, Lance, Darnold, Hooker, Stidham
RB - Stevenson, RWhite, Ford, Herbert, Hunt, CEH, McIntosh, Brooks
WR - Adams, Collins, Rice, GDavis, NBrown, Dortch, Tillman
TE - Higbee, Allen, Graham
PK - Fairbairn
DL - Madubuike, Paye, Ebukam, Will Anderson
LB - Kendricks, Pratt, DWhite, Holcombe, Baker, Alexander, TAndersen, Jack
DB - Blackmon, Brisker, Stingley
- 2024 Picks: 1.13, 3.13
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Re: Was offered Hockenson for my 2024 1st

Postby Edgy68 » Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:15 pm

That team is looking more like a sell than a buy kind of roster. I’d keep your 1st and trade all your older players near the beginning of the season, when everyone is focused on scoring points.
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12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson
RB J. Taylor, B. Hall, D. Henry, D. Achane, K. Miller, R. Johnson, M. Sanders, T. Sermon, C. Patterson, P. Strong, K. Ingram, TDP
WR AJ Brown, J. Chase, C. Lamb, C. Ridley, JSN, G. Pickens, K. Osborn, J. Meyers, A. Pierce, T. Scott
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, G. Dulcich, J. Woods
D/ST MIN, PIT, DEN

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12-team SF, .5 PPR 35 roster: 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 2DB, 2LB, 2DL, 1FLEX
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson, B. Mayfield, J. Winston, S. Howell
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, J. Kelley, K. Harris, J. Ford
WR T. Higgins, C. Ridley, J. Smith-Njigba, D. Hopkins, C. Godwin, J. Mingo
TE T. Kelce, K. Pitts, Z. Ertz, D. Goedert, J. Ferguson
DB R. Grant, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, A. Highsmith, S. Hubbard
LB C. Mosley, A. Singleton, P. Queen, D. Deablo
1.03, 2.03, 2.06, 3.05, 4.06

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Re: Was offered Hockenson for my 2024 1st

Postby lukkynumber13 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:19 am

The trade is a coin toss but in regards to your sig - don’t show ALL your players. We don’t need to know if you have Justyn Ross or Breshad Perriman or whoever. Just give us the core guys. That way you can give US an accurate representation of what your team actually is, for feedback purposes.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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TEAM C - 32T (2 copy), 1QB, TEP
TUA, J Daniels
KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Nabers, Pittman, Diggs, Polk
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert
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TEAM F - 12T, SF & TEP
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Was offered Hockenson for my 2024 1st

Postby kellysheroes » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:34 am

counter with a 2nd and 3rd
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Re: Was offered Hockenson for my 2024 1st

Postby Yostb » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:39 am

kellysheroes wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:34 am counter with a 2nd and 3rd
Cant imagine that being a starting point for any Hock owner.
Team 1
12 Team 1QB (start 8)
QB - Allen, D Jones, Lance, Hooker
RB- Bijan, Jacobs, Najee, Conner, Ford, Fournette, Moss, Rodriguez, Dowdle, Hill, Rodriguez, Strong, Wilson
WR- Adams, Diggs, G Wilson, DK, London, Diontae Johnson, Mike Williams
TE- Kelce, Pitts, Otton, Strange

24 - 1st, 3rd

Team 2
12 Team SF, 2TE with .5TEP (start 12)
QB - Tua, Kyler, Carr, Dobbs, Winston, Heinicke
RB - A Jones, Gibbs, Mostert, Monte, Sanders, Wilson, Moss, Allgeier, Perine, Wilson, Hull, Chandler
WR - Hill, Diggs, Adams, Cooper, Kirk, Hollywood, Burks, Lazard, Chark, Campbell, Arob
TE - Hock, Waller, Everett, Parkinson, Hopkins

24 - 4
25 - 1, 2, ,3, 4


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