I just finished a startup in a pretty deep league (team 2) with 12 teams, 2te with .5prem that starts 12 total. Is Bellinger someone I should be targeting as an old man Waller owner? I feel like he will inevitably miss 4-6 games with some kind of injury and my only other startable TE besides Muth and Waller is Everett.
Whats he worth in this format? Ive got two 2nds next year, he doesn't seem like a player worth a 2 but maybe he is in this league...
Bellinger value with Waller
Bellinger value with Waller
Team 1
12 Team 1QB (start 8)
QB - Allen, D Jones, Lance, Hooker
RB- Bijan, Jacobs, Najee, Conner, Ford, Fournette, Moss, Rodriguez, Dowdle, Hill, Rodriguez, Strong, Wilson
WR- Adams, Diggs, G Wilson, DK, London, Diontae Johnson, Mike Williams
TE- Kelce, Pitts, Otton, Strange
24 - 1st, 3rd
Team 2
12 Team SF, 2TE with .5TEP (start 12)
QB - Tua, Kyler, Carr, Dobbs, Winston, Heinicke
RB - A Jones, Gibbs, Mostert, Monte, Sanders, Wilson, Moss, Allgeier, Perine, Wilson, Hull, Chandler
WR - Hill, Diggs, Adams, Cooper, Kirk, Hollywood, Burks, Lazard, Chark, Campbell, Arob
TE - Hock, Waller, Everett, Parkinson, Hopkins
24 - 4
25 - 1, 2, ,3, 4
12 Team 1QB (start 8)
QB - Allen, D Jones, Lance, Hooker
RB- Bijan, Jacobs, Najee, Conner, Ford, Fournette, Moss, Rodriguez, Dowdle, Hill, Rodriguez, Strong, Wilson
WR- Adams, Diggs, G Wilson, DK, London, Diontae Johnson, Mike Williams
TE- Kelce, Pitts, Otton, Strange
24 - 1st, 3rd
Team 2
12 Team SF, 2TE with .5TEP (start 12)
QB - Tua, Kyler, Carr, Dobbs, Winston, Heinicke
RB - A Jones, Gibbs, Mostert, Monte, Sanders, Wilson, Moss, Allgeier, Perine, Wilson, Hull, Chandler
WR - Hill, Diggs, Adams, Cooper, Kirk, Hollywood, Burks, Lazard, Chark, Campbell, Arob
TE - Hock, Waller, Everett, Parkinson, Hopkins
24 - 4
25 - 1, 2, ,3, 4
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Re: Bellinger value with Waller
Tough to gauge his value in the short term. I like him as a stash for the right price but I would not overpay. Maybe a late 2nd on the stash?
Re: Bellinger value with Waller
Yeah I dont really know how to value him but I am slightly worried if i dont buy him now hell be a lot more expensive after Wallers knee, hammy, back etc gives outGator Sens wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 2:10 pm Tough to gauge his value in the short term. I like him as a stash for the right price but I would not overpay. Maybe a late 2nd on the stash?
Team 1
12 Team 1QB (start 8)
QB - Allen, D Jones, Lance, Hooker
RB- Bijan, Jacobs, Najee, Conner, Ford, Fournette, Moss, Rodriguez, Dowdle, Hill, Rodriguez, Strong, Wilson
WR- Adams, Diggs, G Wilson, DK, London, Diontae Johnson, Mike Williams
TE- Kelce, Pitts, Otton, Strange
24 - 1st, 3rd
Team 2
12 Team SF, 2TE with .5TEP (start 12)
QB - Tua, Kyler, Carr, Dobbs, Winston, Heinicke
RB - A Jones, Gibbs, Mostert, Monte, Sanders, Wilson, Moss, Allgeier, Perine, Wilson, Hull, Chandler
WR - Hill, Diggs, Adams, Cooper, Kirk, Hollywood, Burks, Lazard, Chark, Campbell, Arob
TE - Hock, Waller, Everett, Parkinson, Hopkins
24 - 4
25 - 1, 2, ,3, 4
12 Team 1QB (start 8)
QB - Allen, D Jones, Lance, Hooker
RB- Bijan, Jacobs, Najee, Conner, Ford, Fournette, Moss, Rodriguez, Dowdle, Hill, Rodriguez, Strong, Wilson
WR- Adams, Diggs, G Wilson, DK, London, Diontae Johnson, Mike Williams
TE- Kelce, Pitts, Otton, Strange
24 - 1st, 3rd
Team 2
12 Team SF, 2TE with .5TEP (start 12)
QB - Tua, Kyler, Carr, Dobbs, Winston, Heinicke
RB - A Jones, Gibbs, Mostert, Monte, Sanders, Wilson, Moss, Allgeier, Perine, Wilson, Hull, Chandler
WR - Hill, Diggs, Adams, Cooper, Kirk, Hollywood, Burks, Lazard, Chark, Campbell, Arob
TE - Hock, Waller, Everett, Parkinson, Hopkins
24 - 4
25 - 1, 2, ,3, 4
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Re: Bellinger value with Waller
I sold him for a 2nd in a start 2 TE last year, before Waller signed and I was very happy to get that return (I didn’t expect him to be a long term starter, he seems like JAG to me)
Now that he’s CLEARLY the backup, I’d not pay more than a 3rd at most. Honestly I don’t think it’s crazy to assume a 4th might get him.
Now that he’s CLEARLY the backup, I’d not pay more than a 3rd at most. Honestly I don’t think it’s crazy to assume a 4th might get him.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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TEAM C - 32T (2 copy), 1QB, TEP
TUA, J Daniels
KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Nabers, Pittman, Diggs, Polk
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert
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TEAM F - 12T, SF & TEP
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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TEAM C - 32T (2 copy), 1QB, TEP
TUA, J Daniels
KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Nabers, Pittman, Diggs, Polk
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert
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TEAM F - 12T, SF & TEP
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
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Re: Bellinger value with Waller
I’d not pay a 2nd, even in must start 2TE. I’d say an3rd is about right. So many rookies and other options I’d take with the pick.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
Re: Bellinger value with Waller
Agreed. Don’t handcuff a TE.SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 9:54 am I’d not pay a 2nd, even in must start 2TE. I’d say an3rd is about right. So many rookies and other options I’d take with the pick.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Re: Bellinger value with Waller
Could you get him as a throw in as part of a bigger deal? I feel like going after him with a pick makes your intentions known and drives up the price.
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Re: Bellinger value with Waller
I agree with this.
Also agree with others that I wouldn't pay more than a late 3rd. He was dropped in one of my leagues (albeit my shallowest roster league) and I picked him up for free. I think he showed the ability to play and is worth rostering long-term, so I don't look at him as a handcuff. That said, don't overpay for him
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Re: Bellinger value with Waller
i've been throwing out this hot take:
Bellinger will be the clear TE1 on the NYG and a top 12 TE in the league
Bellinger will be the clear TE1 on the NYG and a top 12 TE in the league
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Caleb Williams - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - J Wright - Estime
WR: AJB - Pittman - Odunze - Shaheed - J Burton - R Pearsall - Doubs - E Moore
TE: MAndrews - Bowers - Bellinger - Kraft
‘25: one 1st, two 2nds, three 3rds
2nd year DFF
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - J Brooks - K Miller - J Wright - A Mattison - J Hill - W Shipley
WR: CeeDee - Aiyuk - Rice - Godwin - J Reed - J Burton - E Moore
TE: Kittle - Kincaid - Chig
Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Caleb Williams - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - J Wright - Estime
WR: AJB - Pittman - Odunze - Shaheed - J Burton - R Pearsall - Doubs - E Moore
TE: MAndrews - Bowers - Bellinger - Kraft
‘25: one 1st, two 2nds, three 3rds
2nd year DFF
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - J Brooks - K Miller - J Wright - A Mattison - J Hill - W Shipley
WR: CeeDee - Aiyuk - Rice - Godwin - J Reed - J Burton - E Moore
TE: Kittle - Kincaid - Chig
Re: Bellinger value with Waller
If this occurs I will buy you the beverage of your choice. I like Bellinger, but not this muchyinzername wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 6:12 am i've been throwing out this hot take:
Bellinger will be the clear TE1 on the NYG and a top 12 TE in the league
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts
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Re: Bellinger value with Waller
I liked what I saw from Bellinger before he got his eye poked out and think the he has TE1 potential. Nothing sexy just no nonsense and very workman like
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him overtake Waller sooner than later whether due to injury or performance
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him overtake Waller sooner than later whether due to injury or performance
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QB: Kyler, Tua, O’Connell
RB: Gibbs, Etienne, Pacheco, Javonte Williams, Chase Brown
WR: London, Higgins, Pickens, Tank Dell, Quentin Johnston, Ricky Pearsall, Troy Franklin
TE: McBride, Freiermuth
QB: Kyler, Tua, O’Connell
RB: Gibbs, Etienne, Pacheco, Javonte Williams, Chase Brown
WR: London, Higgins, Pickens, Tank Dell, Quentin Johnston, Ricky Pearsall, Troy Franklin
TE: McBride, Freiermuth
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Re: Bellinger value with Waller
Late 7th
Re: Bellinger value with Waller
That supposed to say hes worth a late 2nd?
Team 1
12 Team 1QB (start 8)
QB - Allen, D Jones, Lance, Hooker
RB- Bijan, Jacobs, Najee, Conner, Ford, Fournette, Moss, Rodriguez, Dowdle, Hill, Rodriguez, Strong, Wilson
WR- Adams, Diggs, G Wilson, DK, London, Diontae Johnson, Mike Williams
TE- Kelce, Pitts, Otton, Strange
24 - 1st, 3rd
Team 2
12 Team SF, 2TE with .5TEP (start 12)
QB - Tua, Kyler, Carr, Dobbs, Winston, Heinicke
RB - A Jones, Gibbs, Mostert, Monte, Sanders, Wilson, Moss, Allgeier, Perine, Wilson, Hull, Chandler
WR - Hill, Diggs, Adams, Cooper, Kirk, Hollywood, Burks, Lazard, Chark, Campbell, Arob
TE - Hock, Waller, Everett, Parkinson, Hopkins
24 - 4
25 - 1, 2, ,3, 4
12 Team 1QB (start 8)
QB - Allen, D Jones, Lance, Hooker
RB- Bijan, Jacobs, Najee, Conner, Ford, Fournette, Moss, Rodriguez, Dowdle, Hill, Rodriguez, Strong, Wilson
WR- Adams, Diggs, G Wilson, DK, London, Diontae Johnson, Mike Williams
TE- Kelce, Pitts, Otton, Strange
24 - 1st, 3rd
Team 2
12 Team SF, 2TE with .5TEP (start 12)
QB - Tua, Kyler, Carr, Dobbs, Winston, Heinicke
RB - A Jones, Gibbs, Mostert, Monte, Sanders, Wilson, Moss, Allgeier, Perine, Wilson, Hull, Chandler
WR - Hill, Diggs, Adams, Cooper, Kirk, Hollywood, Burks, Lazard, Chark, Campbell, Arob
TE - Hock, Waller, Everett, Parkinson, Hopkins
24 - 4
25 - 1, 2, ,3, 4
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