I see; I misinterpreted your meaning; Thanks for clarification.Space Cowboy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:42 pmI only meant Howard in the sense that they were mid round picks, not thought too much of and then burst onto the scene. Without top end speed.
Is Pierce new #1 pick for rookie drafts
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No idea how Houston is staying in games as well as they are. He didn’t exactly dazzle against Jacksonville, but a 3.9 ypc is fairly solid in the circumstances. If the volume he got in Jacksonville is a sign of future things to come, he’s definitely going to put up better numbers than I expected. I don’t expect him to drop to RB3 barring injury simply because injuries are bound to derail a few seasons and if its not his, he’s very unlikely to drop so substantially. If he averages even 50 rushing yards a game rest of season, he cracks 1000 yards rushing.
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Various podcasts comparing Pierce and JRob. Both were low/lower draft capital backs that performed well when getting/earning the lead back role. The FA/draft risks are very real.
I don't think now is necessarily the right time to sell, but JRob was going for 1st+ plus value in his rookie year.
I don't think now is necessarily the right time to sell, but JRob was going for 1st+ plus value in his rookie year.
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I view him very similarly to how I viewed Gibson, but both him and JRob are pretty reasonable. Not a bad idea to ride out the production, but also not a bad idea to capitalize on his value rise.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:59 am Various podcasts comparing Pierce and JRob. Both were low/lower draft capital backs that performed well when getting/earning the lead back role. The FA/draft risks are very real.
I don't think now is necessarily the right time to sell, but JRob was going for 1st+ plus value in his rookie year.
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In the sense of value spike in rookie year, selling Gibson with the anticipation of a drop makes a ton of sense. Last year, I kept hearing to bail on Elijah Mitchell. His issue this year has been injury (like last year) but the similarity is low cap value at risk of losing role (see CMC rumors).dynastyninja wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:17 amI view him very similarly to how I viewed Gibson, but both him and JRob are pretty reasonable. Not a bad idea to ride out the production, but also not a bad idea to capitalize on his value rise.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:59 am Various podcasts comparing Pierce and JRob. Both were low/lower draft capital backs that performed well when getting/earning the lead back role. The FA/draft risks are very real.
I don't think now is necessarily the right time to sell, but JRob was going for 1st+ plus value in his rookie year.
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Re: Is Pierce new #1 pick for rookie drafts
In a redraft of the 2022 rookies involving some DLF members, pierce was taken 1.9. Who went ahead- Hall, Walker, Garrett, Olave, London, Jameson, Pickens, Jahan.
In RB heavy leagues, could see putting Pierce ahead of Dotson and potentially others.
In RB heavy leagues, could see putting Pierce ahead of Dotson and potentially others.
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Re: Is Pierce new #1 pick for rookie drafts
Pierce is legit.
He has 7 straight games above 13 points. He is a buy for the future. The Texans are loaded with draft capital to address needs in the Line and other areas. RB is not a need at all. He is 5th in the NFL in rushing 772 yards and averaging 4.7 YPC on pretty bad team.
He was one of the steals of the NFL draft and a steal in fantasy drafts.
He has 7 straight games above 13 points. He is a buy for the future. The Texans are loaded with draft capital to address needs in the Line and other areas. RB is not a need at all. He is 5th in the NFL in rushing 772 yards and averaging 4.7 YPC on pretty bad team.
He was one of the steals of the NFL draft and a steal in fantasy drafts.
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Waiting till the end of the fantasy season to revisit this thread. Should be fun.
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Curious views on him. I wanted to see how he performed after not getting volume in college, so the fact he couldn't make it all year and ended the season injured is concerning. Did anyone change or confirm their views based on his 2022 play? Does the (low-ish) draft cap continue to warrant concern? How does the Singletary signing affect his valuation?
There had been another meaty thread on pierce before this one but I can't find it. Did find this one.
There had been another meaty thread on pierce before this one but I can't find it. Did find this one.
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Re: Is Pierce new #1 pick for rookie drafts
He’s a good rusher. Not sure he’s going to progress beyond that. I’d say if you were drafting him top five, that was still a mistake. If you got him back end of the first round, things are looking pretty good.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 3:45 pm Curious views on him. I wanted to see how he performed after not getting volume in college, so the fact he couldn't make it all year and ended the season injured is concerning. Did anyone change or confirm their views based on his 2022 play? Does the (low-ish) draft cap continue to warrant concern? How does the Singletary signing affect his valuation?
There had been another meaty thread on pierce before this one but I can't find it. Did find this one.
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Re: Is Pierce new #1 pick for rookie drafts
I like what I saw last year and like his prospects going forward. He reminds me a little of Chris Carson who was underrated and undervalued by the dynasty community, but a solid producer before a career ending neck injury. I would be buying Pierce at his current price if I needed RB production
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He didn't lose his job this offseason, which was a concern of mine and upgrades him for sure. He's a solid running back who will get touches. Long-term competition will always be his biggest risk in my book, but he's probably a decent buy.
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The Texans have had a couple of good drafts in a row and are shoring up the O linedynastyninja wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 6:02 pm He didn't lose his job this offseason, which was a concern of mine and upgrades him for sure. He's a solid running back who will get touches. Long-term competition will always be his biggest risk in my book, but he's probably a decent buy.
The team still really likes Pierce. He is a good football player. He may be a one contract player but enjoy why you have him. He is a very good mid level but IMO.
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The fact they had a plethora of Rb's they could have signed or drafted and all they did was sign a pedestrian Singletary is a very good indicator he is the real deal.
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Re: Is Pierce new #1 pick for rookie drafts
They traded all their picks away for an undersized edge rusher before they had a chance to draft anybody. . It doesn't make sense to invest heavily in the RB position with so many holes on that roster. Pierce is safe for this year. Singletary will get touches, but Pierce should be the touch leader.
Next season, he'll have to avoid the gauntlet again. Hopefully he can stay healthy this year, and produce well. It's a big year for his future outlook. Another season ending injury, he may be viewed like Kerryon Johson was after 2 year. If he stays healthy and produces, he's more likely to be a longer term focal point of their offense.
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