D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
IDK how anyone could see him as a top 5 back. When healthy, Penny is clearly the early down back, and Swift's main asset is his pass catching. He's with a running QB, I just don't see why people would consider him anywhere close to the range of a top 5 dynasty back. People on here preach not massively changing rookie ranks due to landing spot.....
Certainly better for Swift than his previous situation was, as of a day ago, but don't get carried away.
Certainly better for Swift than his previous situation was, as of a day ago, but don't get carried away.
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
I agree. Lots of overreactions on both sides the last few daysFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:32 am IDK how anyone could see him as a top 5 back. When healthy, Penny is clearly the early down back, and Swift's main asset is his pass catching. He's with a running QB, I just don't see why people would consider him anywhere close to the range of a top 5 dynasty back. People on here preach not massively changing rookie ranks due to landing spot.....
Certainly better for Swift than his previous situation was, as of a day ago, but don't get carried away.
Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
Swift is healthier than penny historically.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:32 am IDK how anyone could see him as a top 5 back. When healthy, Penny is clearly the early down back, and Swift's main asset is his pass catching. He's with a running QB, I just don't see why people would consider him anywhere close to the range of a top 5 dynasty back. People on here preach not massively changing rookie ranks due to landing spot.....
Certainly better for Swift than his previous situation was, as of a day ago, but don't get carried away.
Real fun to look at the swift trades made yesterday in DLF's trade finder.
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
Swift is still soft. Bring on the Eagles doesn’t change that.
SF, PPR, 12 team, 12 player dynasty
QB- Lawrence, Fields, Tannehill (max 2 keepers, 3 rostered)
RB- Bijan Robinson, T Pollard, Allgeier, Charbonnet, Achane, J Wilson, Kelley, K Williams
WR- Lamb, Jeudy, Hill, C Olave, A Pierce, Shaheed, Bourne
TE- Goedert, Musgrave
QB- Lawrence, Fields, Tannehill (max 2 keepers, 3 rostered)
RB- Bijan Robinson, T Pollard, Allgeier, Charbonnet, Achane, J Wilson, Kelley, K Williams
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
I roster Swift, so happy about it, but I am still not expecting anything more than what he did in Detroit the last few years. He's not a lead back, and I think his pass catching upside is now minimized in Philly, with Hurts. Have no idea where he'll be next year, either. Anyways, good for his value vs 2 days ago, but shouldn't boost his value much beyond where it was in the off season. It's not like the Eagles gave up much, either.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:33 amI agree. Lots of overreactions on both sides the last few daysFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:32 am IDK how anyone could see him as a top 5 back. When healthy, Penny is clearly the early down back, and Swift's main asset is his pass catching. He's with a running QB, I just don't see why people would consider him anywhere close to the range of a top 5 dynasty back. People on here preach not massively changing rookie ranks due to landing spot.....
Certainly better for Swift than his previous situation was, as of a day ago, but don't get carried away.
Eagles add a good player who should have a specific role, as a committee back, Penny and Swift is a solid 1/2 for them, and Gainwell as well. Scott the odd man out??
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
Rookies and landing spot is not quite the same as vets and being traded to a new team. Rookies have to prove they can translate to the NFL. Swift has already proven he can be productive, he just wasn't a fit for Dan Campbell's run through brick walls mentality.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:32 am IDK how anyone could see him as a top 5 back. When healthy, Penny is clearly the early down back, and Swift's main asset is his pass catching. He's with a running QB, I just don't see why people would consider him anywhere close to the range of a top 5 dynasty back. People on here preach not massively changing rookie ranks due to landing spot.....
Certainly better for Swift than his previous situation was, as of a day ago, but don't get carried away.
Gotta be optimistic for Swift. But I agree, not a top 5 back until he proves it for me. Not real concerned about Gainwell or Scott. Penny is an obstacle until he's injured week 1 or 2.
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
Swift has never proven he can handle a large workload, with 2 different regime's, so even if Penny gets hurt, I don't expect Swift to be a 20 plus touch a game back. I am personally going to look to move him if people are valuing him highly again.CGW wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:39 amRookies and landing spot is not quite the same as vets and being traded to a new team. Rookies have to prove they can translate to the NFL. Swift has already proven he can be productive, he just wasn't a fit for Dan Campbell's run through brick walls mentality.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:32 am IDK how anyone could see him as a top 5 back. When healthy, Penny is clearly the early down back, and Swift's main asset is his pass catching. He's with a running QB, I just don't see why people would consider him anywhere close to the range of a top 5 dynasty back. People on here preach not massively changing rookie ranks due to landing spot.....
Certainly better for Swift than his previous situation was, as of a day ago, but don't get carried away.
Gotta be optimistic for Swift. But I agree, not a top 5 back until he proves it for me. Not real concerned about Gainwell or Scott. Penny is an obstacle until he's injured week 1 or 2.
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
Not when it's frozen.
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
I mean CMC was on death’s doorstep then went to a much better team and magically stayed healthy. Maybe Swift will be motivated to play through the dumb little stuff and play well. His financial future depends on it.
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RB - Bijan, Najee, Mostert, Chase Brown, Jaylen Wright, T. Tracy
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, Odunze, JSN, Jameson Williams, Downs, QJ, Pearsall
TE - Andrews, Kelce, Bowers
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RB - Bijan, Najee, Mostert, Chase Brown, Jaylen Wright, T. Tracy
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, Odunze, JSN, Jameson Williams, Downs, QJ, Pearsall
TE - Andrews, Kelce, Bowers
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
I’m not delusional and I don’t think Swift should be valued as a top 5 back. However, it’s hard to argue this doesn’t absolutely revive his dynasty value and give him a real chance at being a highly productive back. It depends on staying healthy but that is the same for literally every RB. If he can get 15 touches per game I think he can produce RB1 numbers in that offense and if Penny goes down then we may get to see if he can handle a real workload. Also, his might be a hot take but I’m finding it hard to keep Walker in the top 5 discussion after that Charbonnet pick. Brutal.
Team:14 Team Dynasty 1/2 PPR Unlimited Keepers 2IR
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes, Caleb Williams
RB - Bijan, Najee, Mostert, Chase Brown, Jaylen Wright, T. Tracy
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, Odunze, JSN, Jameson Williams, Downs, QJ, Pearsall
TE - Andrews, Kelce, Bowers
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2026 1st, 3rd
2027 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes, Caleb Williams
RB - Bijan, Najee, Mostert, Chase Brown, Jaylen Wright, T. Tracy
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, Odunze, JSN, Jameson Williams, Downs, QJ, Pearsall
TE - Andrews, Kelce, Bowers
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2026 1st, 3rd
2027 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
That is what I was thinking. It's a lot easier to push and overcome when everyone around is as well while you're all on a championship calibre team instead of a perennial bottom feeder
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Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
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Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
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1.02, 1.06
Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
It all depends on if he can stay healthy, I wouldn't have him in the top 5 until proven differently but I do like this situation much better he didn't seem to click in DET
12 Team PPR
QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex
QB: Mahomes/Jones
RB: Mixon/Chubb/Mostert/Burkhead/McKinnon
WR: Wilson/JuJu/Marquise/Mooney/Campbell/Dotson/Osborn/Julio/Tolbert/Shakir/Metchie
TE: Andrews/Hurst
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QB: Mahomes/Jones
RB: Mixon/Chubb/Mostert/Burkhead/McKinnon
WR: Wilson/JuJu/Marquise/Mooney/Campbell/Dotson/Osborn/Julio/Tolbert/Shakir/Metchie
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
I still have Walker top 5, and I agree it revives Swift's value. I think RB2 numbers are more realistic, with the lack of check downs he'll get compared to Detroit, and the lack of goal line upside, with Penny, and Hurts, I don't see him being a GL option very often. I agree 15 touches would be his sweet spot. I'd take RB 13-18 all day if he can stay on the field for a full year.Gazzerk wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:23 am I’m not delusional and I don’t think Swift should be valued as a top 5 back. However, it’s hard to argue this doesn’t absolutely revive his dynasty value and give him a real chance at being a highly productive back. It depends on staying healthy but that is the same for literally every RB. If he can get 15 touches per game I think he can produce RB1 numbers in that offense and if Penny goes down then we may get to see if he can handle a real workload. Also, his might be a hot take but I’m finding it hard to keep Walker in the top 5 discussion after that Charbonnet pick. Brutal.
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
I’ve got Penny and Swift in my main league! One of them will stay healthy, right? RIGHT?!?
All I Der Is Win - 16 Team IDP League (Pass TD 6pts)
QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker
QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker
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