TJ Hockenson: Post trade value

[FantasyFreak]

This guy seems to be in the plans for the Vikes.

Where do we value him in TE land right now?

[Pac_Eddy]

This guy seems to be in the plans for the Vikes.

Where do we value him in TE land right now?

Kelce, Andrews, Kittle. I think I put Hock at number four right now. I can see an arguement for being in the same tier as Kittle.

[grandmabetty]

This guy seems to be in the plans for the Vikes.

Where do we value him in TE land right now?

Kelce, Andrews, Kittle. I think I put Hock at number four right now. I can see an arguement for being in the same tier as Kittle.

I agree. Many will have pitts above him. I've watched every vikings game and he's in the perfect offense to take advantage of him. I also agree the Vikings will be extending him long term

[Needalife]

Hock is a good reminder that some players get drafted to a bad team fit. I don’t think Hock suddenly became good. I think he was vastly underutilized in DET and has ascended bigtime since the trade. He was a tremendous prospect and I’m not sure his stint in DET was the classic ramp up timing on a TE.

I put him right up there with Andrews and behind only Kelce. I worry Andrews may lose a little if Lamar leaves or if Likely continues to expand his role. I think I trust Hock and Kittle slightly more than Andrews heading into next offseason due to situation but all are fantastic. I loved Hock as a prospect and it’s great to see him finally getting targets. He’s a perfect fit in MIN and complements Jefferson well.

This also reminds me to be patient with Pitts. He flashed last year and has the skill set to be awesome… just needs a better situation. If ATL climbs out of the bottom of pass attempts next season, Pitts could join this group but he’s not there yet.

[Ice]

Hock is a good reminder that some players get drafted to a bad team fit. I don’t think Hock suddenly became good. I think he was vastly underutilized in DET and has ascended bigtime since the trade. He was a tremendous prospect and I’m not sure his stint in DET was the classic ramp up timing on a TE.

I put him right up there with Andrews and behind only Kelce. I worry Andrews may lose a little if Lamar leaves or if Likely continues to expand his role. I think I trust Hock and Kittle slightly more than Andrews heading into next offseason due to situation but all are fantastic. I loved Hock as a prospect and it’s great to see him finally getting targets. He’s a perfect fit in MIN and complements Jefferson well.

This also reminds me to be patient with Pitts. He flashed last year and has the skill set to be awesome… just needs a better situation. If ATL climbs out of the bottom of pass attempts next season, Pitts could join this group but he’s not there yet.

Agree!

[slaughterrt]

Trying to be unbiased as a Vikings fan, but man does Hock look great in that offense. A perfect combo of skill and utilization. I like him top 5 easy.

[MacDaddy123]

Seeing how this forum is about dynasty football, I have Hock ahead of Kittle, Kelce, probably even Andrews now too, since Lamar may be out of Baltimore.

It is ALL about being in the right situation, which Kelce and Andrews were in, but Andrews may be leaving.
Kittle is looking like his old self with Purdy at QB now too....situation in SF changed with the QB.

For dynasty, Hock is right up there with Pitts for me now, and may even be the new #1 TE, since he is only 3 years older than Pitts, but obviously in a MUCH better situation now than Pitts.

Just goes to show that all the guys who say take talent over landing spot may be wrong.
Hockenson trade shows just how important the surroundings are to fantasy success.

[FantasyFreak]

For dynasty, Hock is right up there with Pitts for me now, and may even be the new #1 TE, since he is only 3 years older than Pitts, but obviously in a MUCH better situation now than Pitts.

Just goes to show that all the guys who say take talent over landing spot may be wrong.
Hockenson trade shows just how important the surroundings are to fantasy success.

I don't think I'd move him for Pitts at this point, on the team I have him on, because I want to contend next year. I am not sure Pitts is that good, and I think Hock is. Pitts COULD be great, but I can't wait to find out, or take that floor. I like Hock's floor/ceiling combo right now, if Cousins stays in Minnesota.

[killer_of_giants]

in 11 games with the vikes he got 97 targets. this includes week 18 when he only had 1 (played less than 50% snaps).

good choice to go by TJ, too, as thomas james is a lot more boring.

[FantasyFreak]

in 11 games with the vikes he got 97 targets. this includes week 18 when he only had 1 (played less than 50% snaps).

good choice to go by TJ, too, as thomas james is a lot more boring.

Looking at Cousins contract, he's a 3 million cap hit, about 10 million less than the franchise tag. He's a 49 million dollar dead cap hit. Seems likely captain Kirk is back....so unless something strange happens, it's....

Hocken-season

[CGW]

Always been a major Hock fan and loved the trade to Minnesota. Glad to see him truly break out as an elite TE.

[hockeyBjj]

With age I think he's TE2 right now, Andrews still the #1 but I if Lamar doesn't get his deal he'll lose that spot

Kittle and Kelce the better redraft options but Kelce is getting older and Kittle is always a health scare

[bjd5211]

Kelce

Pitts

Andrews
Goedert
Hock
Kittle
Waller

Chig

Freiermuth
Engram

[MacDaddy123]

For dynasty, Hock is right up there with Pitts for me now, and may even be the new #1 TE, since he is only 3 years older than Pitts, but obviously in a MUCH better situation now than Pitts.

Just goes to show that all the guys who say take talent over landing spot may be wrong.
Hockenson trade shows just how important the surroundings are to fantasy success.

I don't think I'd move him for Pitts at this point, on the team I have him on, because I want to contend next year. I am not sure Pitts is that good, and I think Hock is. Pitts COULD be great, but I can't wait to find out, or take that floor. I like Hock's floor/ceiling combo right now, if Cousins stays in Minnesota.

That is why I said that Hock may even be the new #1 TE in dynasty.
It will be interesting to see where Hock goes now in TEP start up drafts in relation to Pitts.

Yes, obviously Hock had a better 2022 season with his new team, but I would compare Hock's 2nd NFL season with Pitts 2nd NFL season, so that I was comparing apples with apples.

I would not blame anyone for taking Hock as the TE1 in dynasty now over Pitts.
As a Pitts owner, my dream is that one day Pitts finds his perfect fit like Hock did this year.

For those still clinging to Kelce as TE1 in dynasty, I just scratch my head.

Yes, Kelce had a GREAT 2022 season, and is my TE1 in 2023 Redraft leagues.
I can't put Kelce ahead of Hockenson or Pitts in dynasty though.

If I were competing I would want Hock.
In a rebuild I am fine waiting on Pitts.

[CGW]

For dynasty, Hock is right up there with Pitts for me now, and may even be the new #1 TE, since he is only 3 years older than Pitts, but obviously in a MUCH better situation now than Pitts.

Just goes to show that all the guys who say take talent over landing spot may be wrong.
Hockenson trade shows just how important the surroundings are to fantasy success.

I don't think I'd move him for Pitts at this point, on the team I have him on, because I want to contend next year. I am not sure Pitts is that good, and I think Hock is. Pitts COULD be great, but I can't wait to find out, or take that floor. I like Hock's floor/ceiling combo right now, if Cousins stays in Minnesota.

That is why I said that Hock may even be the new #1 TE in dynasty.
It will be interesting to see where Hock goes now in TEP start up drafts in relation to Pitts.

Yes, obviously Hock had a better 2022 season with his new team, but I would compare Hock's 2nd NFL season with Pitts 2nd NFL season, so that I was comparing apples with apples.

I would not blame anyone for taking Hock as the TE1 in dynasty now over Pitts.
As a Pitts owner, my dream is that one day Pitts finds his perfect fit like Hock did this year.

For those still clinging to Kelce as TE1 in dynasty, I just scratch my head.

Yes, Kelce had a GREAT 2022 season, and is my TE1 in 2023 Redraft leagues.
I can't put Kelce ahead of Hockenson or Pitts in dynasty though.

Depends on team makeup. If I'm a strong contender, Kelce is the most valuable TE out there. In a 2-3 year window, he still creates a positional advantage you cant get anywhere else. He was on 3 of the 4 winning rosters of my leagues this year. I get getting out while the getting is good, but the goal is also to win leagues as well. Give me his TE4ish price tag over Pitts for TE1 prices.