I posted about this a few weeks ago. Boutte was one of the guys I was concerned about. It happens every year. I'm not all that surprised.
Way, way, waaaay too early 2023 Draft class thread
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Re: Way, way, waaaay too early 2023 Draft class thread
I am not shocked, as the rumors were there, but disappointed, as it's another blow to the 2023 class.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:17 pmI posted about this a few weeks ago. Boutte was one of the guys I was concerned about. It happens every year. I'm not all that surprised.
I also think that Boutte may use the transfer portal to escape the bad situation he is in.
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Corum had knee surgery and is out for the year. I can't find any specifics. I am wondering what he does, if he can't be ready for the combine.
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Re: Way, way, waaaay too early 2023 Draft class thread
If he is smart he goes the the NFL. RB lives are short to begin with, why waste another year outside of the league? I don't think anyone has been as big of a riser as Corum this year in terms of offensive skill position players. If anything being injured and seeing his draft stock falter should be evidence for opting to get in the league and get your guaranteed 4 years of salary, rather than risk further injury to NIL which you can get as an NFL player.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:18 pm Corum had knee surgery and is out for the year. I can't find any specifics. I am wondering what he does, if he can't be ready for the combine.
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WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
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Re: Way, way, waaaay too early 2023 Draft class thread
Depends on the severity of the knee injury, and what it would do to his draft stock. If he goes in the 6th this year, because it's a major knee injury, and the 2nd next year, he may be better off staying. ETN stayed, and got a first round contract, which he wouldn't have got if he had declared early. There's always the Bryce Young side of things, too. Really depends on the severity of this knee injury, and if he can test and get a day 2 grade without it, which is unlikely.nathanq42 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:44 pmIf he is smart he goes the the NFL. RB lives are short to begin with, why waste another year outside of the league? I don't think anyone has been as big of a riser as Corum this year in terms of offensive skill position players. If anything being injured and seeing his draft stock falter should be evidence for opting to get in the league and get your guaranteed 4 years of salary, rather than risk further injury to NIL which you can get as an NFL player.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:18 pm Corum had knee surgery and is out for the year. I can't find any specifics. I am wondering what he does, if he can't be ready for the combine.
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Re: Way, way, waaaay too early 2023 Draft class thread
Very true very true. I feel so bad for love, I really liked his profile coming out. Kid was a highlight waiting to happen. At least he is legitimately doctor level smart and the NFL was never his end goal if I believeFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:14 pmDepends on the severity of the knee injury, and what it would do to his draft stock. If he goes in the 6th this year, because it's a major knee injury, and the 2nd next year, he may be better off staying. ETN stayed, and got a first round contract, which he wouldn't have got if he had declared early. There's always the Bryce Young side of things, too. Really depends on the severity of this knee injury, and if he can test and get a day 2 grade without it, which is unlikely.nathanq42 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:44 pmIf he is smart he goes the the NFL. RB lives are short to begin with, why waste another year outside of the league? I don't think anyone has been as big of a riser as Corum this year in terms of offensive skill position players. If anything being injured and seeing his draft stock falter should be evidence for opting to get in the league and get your guaranteed 4 years of salary, rather than risk further injury to NIL which you can get as an NFL player.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:18 pm Corum had knee surgery and is out for the year. I can't find any specifics. I am wondering what he does, if he can't be ready for the combine.
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TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
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WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
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Re: Way, way, waaaay too early 2023 Draft class thread
He should have a better situation at LSU next season.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:15 pmI am not shocked, as the rumors were there, but disappointed, as it's another blow to the 2023 class.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:17 pmI posted about this a few weeks ago. Boutte was one of the guys I was concerned about. It happens every year. I'm not all that surprised.
I also think that Boutte may use the transfer portal to escape the bad situation he is in.
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Re: Way, way, waaaay too early 2023 Draft class thread
Yeah, you're not wrong, though it really depends the year and how set people are at QB. Pickett was the FIRST QB to go in our Superflex last year, at 1.08. Maybe it was a bad year. It went Hall, Walker, London, Wilson, Williams, Olave, Burks, Pickett. Willis #14, Rider #22, Corral #24. But I expect Stroud and Bryce will get a lot more love.mild wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 3:43 pmIt's likely that you're going to be watching a lot of Will Levis.wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:44 pm Following. Hoping there is a QB I can nab in my superflex. Looks like I'm picking about #5-6 right now.
An absolute enigma of an eval, questionable decision making (oh god, the mayo) but prototype size and build, and a big fookin' cannon for an arm.
You might want to try trade up to 1.02 or 1.03 now before it's even more prohibitive if you like what you see from either Stroud or Young.
Year before Lawrence was #1, Lance #3, Wilson #6, Fields #7, MJones #12.
D3:
QB—Allen, JJM RB—Gibbs, Kamara, Jacobs, LLOYD, Zamir, Edwards, Ford, Warren, McLaughlin WR—MHJ, Lamb, Olave, DJM, Shaheed, RICE, VJefferson TE—Engram, Muth, Washington, Kraft, THEO PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK, CORLEY, COWING, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING, MWASHINGTON TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS, Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE, Goff, Cousins, PENIX RB: Bijan, BRob, Zamir, Allgeier, McLaughlin, Hull WR: HARRISON, DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, COWING, Reynolds TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Hurst, WILEY, Trautman, Tremble, Dissly, Reiman
QB—Allen, JJM RB—Gibbs, Kamara, Jacobs, LLOYD, Zamir, Edwards, Ford, Warren, McLaughlin WR—MHJ, Lamb, Olave, DJM, Shaheed, RICE, VJefferson TE—Engram, Muth, Washington, Kraft, THEO PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK, CORLEY, COWING, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING, MWASHINGTON TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS, Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE, Goff, Cousins, PENIX RB: Bijan, BRob, Zamir, Allgeier, McLaughlin, Hull WR: HARRISON, DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, COWING, Reynolds TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Hurst, WILEY, Trautman, Tremble, Dissly, Reiman
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Re: Way, way, waaaay too early 2023 Draft class thread
Not sure if anyone cares, but I'm bored and felt like sharing some of my early season scouting notes on the upcoming class.
*Note that I am still extremely early and have not done research on every top25 prospect. I have not done FULL research on anyone really - as I will update after the combine, draft, and more film review. But I have watched all-game tapes, highlights, and watched a lot of college football this season on the players I will review. I plan to add more players / notes as the off-season progresses in case anyone is interested. And note these aren't in any particular order (though I'll generally be starting off with the names at the tops of most people's list and working my way down).
Bijan Robinson
Sean Tucker
Planned to add more, but ran out of time - will get a few more prospects up in the next 24 - 48 hours.
*Note that I am still extremely early and have not done research on every top25 prospect. I have not done FULL research on anyone really - as I will update after the combine, draft, and more film review. But I have watched all-game tapes, highlights, and watched a lot of college football this season on the players I will review. I plan to add more players / notes as the off-season progresses in case anyone is interested. And note these aren't in any particular order (though I'll generally be starting off with the names at the tops of most people's list and working my way down).
Bijan Robinson
- Built in a lab to play the RB position - excellent combination of size, speed, power, and athleticism even if he's not an elite sprinter
- Elite vision in-between the tackles, great lateral jump-cut ability, finishes runs falling forward / through defenders consistently
- Excellent repertoire of moves - shows off a great stiff arm, explosive lateral jump cuts, spin moves, stutters, etc.
- Does not possess elite long speed and is not as natural of a receiver as Gibbs, but he's still a big plus RB in the passing game. Can block, run legit routes, and has good hands
- Curious to see what (if) he runs in the 40. Doesn't seem to possess great long speed, but most of his breakaway runs come after making a few defenders miss, which could lead to fatigue. I doubt he runs a 4.35, but interested to see if he's a 4.4 guy or a 4.55 guy - but shouldn't matter much to his NFL projection
- He's a top5 dynasty asset for me right now
Sean Tucker
- Explosive athlete with great vision, he has a great feel for the cut-back lanes - both on designed outside zone runs and when the play design breaks down
- Not a true power back because of his size but runs with excellent strength. He's short but stout and more often than not initiates the contact with defenders
- Not a pass-catching specialist like Gibbs, but a plus in the passing game - 56+ catches combined the last 2 years
- Excellent speed in the open field, destroys a lot of pursuit angles and can really make second-level defenders miss without slowing down or compromising his long speed - this turns a lot of 10-15 yard runs into 25+ yard TD house calls
- He'll be a top5 player on my 2023 big board in all likelihood and projects as a foundational RB for dynasty squads
Planned to add more, but ran out of time - will get a few more prospects up in the next 24 - 48 hours.
10-team/.5 PPR Q RR WWW TE FF
QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Coleman, AD Mitchell
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram
12-team PPR/SF/TEP (+1PPR) Q RR WW TE FFF SF
QB - J. Hurts / D. Prescott / J. Love / B. Nix
RB - J. Taylor / K. Walker / J. Mixon / J. Brooks / D. Singletary / J. McLaughlin
WR - B. Aiyuk / K. Allen / S. Diggs / R. Odunze / X. Worthy / T. Franklin / J. Palmer / G. Davis / R. Doubs
TE - M. Andrews / D. Kincaid
QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Coleman, AD Mitchell
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram
12-team PPR/SF/TEP (+1PPR) Q RR WW TE FFF SF
QB - J. Hurts / D. Prescott / J. Love / B. Nix
RB - J. Taylor / K. Walker / J. Mixon / J. Brooks / D. Singletary / J. McLaughlin
WR - B. Aiyuk / K. Allen / S. Diggs / R. Odunze / X. Worthy / T. Franklin / J. Palmer / G. Davis / R. Doubs
TE - M. Andrews / D. Kincaid
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Thank you much! Great write-ups
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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TEAM C - 32T (2 copy), 1QB, TEP
TUA, J Daniels
KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Nabers, Pittman, Diggs, Polk
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert
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TEAM F - 12T, SF & TEP
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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TEAM C - 32T (2 copy), 1QB, TEP
TUA, J Daniels
KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Nabers, Pittman, Diggs, Polk
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert
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TEAM F - 12T, SF & TEP
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
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Re: Way, way, waaaay too early 2023 Draft class thread
While I myself like Sean Tucker, I think him being a smaller back and not showing out great against top competition wll drive him down boards. If he doesn’t test explosively he may take a Spiller like fallkmbryant09 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:11 pm Not sure if anyone cares, but I'm bored and felt like sharing some of my early season scouting notes on the upcoming class.
*Note that I am still extremely early and have not done research on every top25 prospect. I have not done FULL research on anyone really - as I will update after the combine, draft, and more film review. But I have watched all-game tapes, highlights, and watched a lot of college football this season on the players I will review. I plan to add more players / notes as the off-season progresses in case anyone is interested. And note these aren't in any particular order (though I'll generally be starting off with the names at the tops of most people's list and working my way down).
Bijan Robinson
- Built in a lab to play the RB position - excellent combination of size, speed, power, and athleticism even if he's not an elite sprinter
- Elite vision in-between the tackles, great lateral jump-cut ability, finishes runs falling forward / through defenders consistently
- Excellent repertoire of moves - shows off a great stiff arm, explosive lateral jump cuts, spin moves, stutters, etc.
- Does not possess elite long speed and is not as natural of a receiver as Gibbs, but he's still a big plus RB in the passing game. Can block, run legit routes, and has good hands
- Curious to see what (if) he runs in the 40. Doesn't seem to possess great long speed, but most of his breakaway runs come after making a few defenders miss, which could lead to fatigue. I doubt he runs a 4.35, but interested to see if he's a 4.4 guy or a 4.55 guy - but shouldn't matter much to his NFL projection
Stylistic Comp(s) - Saquon Barkley / Nick Chubb
- He's a top5 dynasty asset for me right now
Sean Tucker
- Explosive athlete with great vision, he has a great feel for the cut-back lanes - both on designed outside zone runs and when the play design breaks down
- Not a true power back because of his size but runs with excellent strength. He's short but stout and more often than not initiates the contact with defenders
- Not a pass-catching specialist like Gibbs, but a plus in the passing game - 56+ catches combined the last 2 years
- Excellent speed in the open field, destroys a lot of pursuit angles and can really make second-level defenders miss without slowing down or compromising his long speed - this turns a lot of 10-15 yard runs into 25+ yard TD house calls
Stylistic Comp(s) - DeAngelo Williams / Ray Rice
- He'll be a top5 player on my 2023 big board in all likelihood and projects as a foundational RB for dynasty squads
Planned to add more, but ran out of time - will get a few more prospects up in the next 24 - 48 hours.
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Re: Way, way, waaaay too early 2023 Draft class thread
Appreciate the write ups
Re: Way, way, waaaay too early 2023 Draft class thread
Absolutely zero chance he doesn’t test explosively barring one of his legs falling off.alewilliam789 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:46 pm
While I myself like Sean Tucker, I think him being a smaller back and not showing out great against top competition wll drive him down boards. If he doesn’t test explosively he may take a Spiller like fall
Former junior Olympic athlete. Runs track for Syracuse.A former 55m, 100m, and 200m sprint champion, Tucker has legitimate track speed.
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Re: Way, way, waaaay too early 2023 Draft class thread
2022 not looking so bad at this point. Thanks for the write up!
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