"Perhaps" Sony looked like his usual jag self and Ekeler has no issue catching the ball every. damn. play. If Sony looks like he does and is still being used over Spiller idk manmild wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:20 pmTime to see what we have, I guess.Chargers coach Brandon Staley said Joshua Kelley (knee) will miss "weeks, not days."
The back sprained his MCL in Week 6's Monday night win over the Broncos. Sony Michel will have a clear path to No. 2 duties while Kelley is sidelined. Perhaps it will also open up an active role for rookie fourth-round back Isaiah Spiller as well.
Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
Sony broke a few tackles for hard earned first down on 3rd and short at least. From what I saw from Spiller in pre-season, no chance he would have made that run, he would have dropped like a stone by the first tackler. Spiller just isn't very good, people are stuck in that devy take lock IMO, though TBH, I never thought he looked that good in college, either.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:27 pm"Perhaps" Sony looked like his usual jag self and Ekeler has no issue catching the ball every. damn. play. If Sony looks like he does and is still being used over Spiller idk manmild wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:20 pmTime to see what we have, I guess.Chargers coach Brandon Staley said Joshua Kelley (knee) will miss "weeks, not days."
The back sprained his MCL in Week 6's Monday night win over the Broncos. Sony Michel will have a clear path to No. 2 duties while Kelley is sidelined. Perhaps it will also open up an active role for rookie fourth-round back Isaiah Spiller as well.
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
mild wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:20 pmTime to see what we have, I guess.Chargers coach Brandon Staley said Joshua Kelley (knee) will miss "weeks, not days."
The back sprained his MCL in Week 6's Monday night win over the Broncos. Sony Michel will have a clear path to No. 2 duties while Kelley is sidelined. Perhaps it will also open up an active role for rookie fourth-round back Isaiah Spiller as well.
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RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
I’m mostly just hoping to see Spiller get a few snaps. I don’t care who he’s behind. This is a move in the right direction. Mostly just want to get some NFL regular season looks at him.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:27 pm"Perhaps" Sony looked like his usual jag self and Ekeler has no issue catching the ball every. damn. play. If Sony looks like he does and is still being used over Spiller idk manmild wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:20 pmTime to see what we have, I guess.Chargers coach Brandon Staley said Joshua Kelley (knee) will miss "weeks, not days."
The back sprained his MCL in Week 6's Monday night win over the Broncos. Sony Michel will have a clear path to No. 2 duties while Kelley is sidelined. Perhaps it will also open up an active role for rookie fourth-round back Isaiah Spiller as well.
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
Exactly. The waiver wires have largely been picked clean in my leagues. It's not like there are other, better dynasty options out there. It's not like we're dropping him.ericanadian wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:56 pmI’m mostly just hoping to see Spiller get a few snaps. I don’t care who he’s behind. This is a move in the right direction. Mostly just want to get some NFL regular season looks at him.
I don't understand the rush to call him a bust when he's literally a 21 year old that has played no regular season snaps yet. It sounds like we may see him get some snaps finally. So let's see it.
And I also don't know why anyone would be putting too much credit in Sony Michel running ahead of him, given that it's obviously a Brandon Staley decision, and that he is likely doing the "tough love, I need a veteran in there who won't f-it-up" etc. I don't know what that particular HC has earned thus far for us to trust his opinion on... well, anything.
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
I don't think there's really such thing as a 4th round bust, the odds are already against 4th rounders having long established careers. I've personally held the same opinion for the longest time, that he's just not a very good running back in terms of NFL talent. Until I see something that tells me differently, I'm inclined to keep that opinion.mild wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:11 pmExactly. The waiver wires have largely been picked clean in my leagues. It's not like there are other, better dynasty options out there. It's not like we're dropping him.ericanadian wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:56 pmI’m mostly just hoping to see Spiller get a few snaps. I don’t care who he’s behind. This is a move in the right direction. Mostly just want to get some NFL regular season looks at him.
I don't understand the rush to call him a bust when he's literally a 21 year old that has played no regular season snaps yet. It sounds like we may see him get some snaps finally. So let's see it.
And I also don't know why anyone would be putting too much credit in Sony Michel running ahead of him, given that it's obviously a Brandon Staley decision, and that he is likely doing the "tough love, I need a veteran in there who won't f-it-up" etc. I don't know what that particular HC has earned thus far for us to trust his opinion on... well, anything.
JAG isn't the same thing as a bust. He will likely stick on an NFL roster for a while, but it's doubtful he ever has sustained FF relevance.
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
Fair enough...FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:01 pm I don't think there's really such thing as a 4th round bust, the odds are already against 4th rounders having long established careers. I've personally held the same opinion for the longest time, that he's just not a very good running back in terms of NFL talent. Until I see something that tells me differently, I'm inclined to keep that opinion.
Take lock, you say?FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:30 pm Spiller just isn't very good, people are stuck in that devy take lock IMO, though TBH, I never thought he looked that good in college, either.
Just playing. I'd like to see him get some real carries. Perhaps we'll get our wish. Until then, may we all remain take locked to whatever our opinions are!
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
I know, but my take hasn't changed because I haven't been provided with new evidence to suggest it's wrong, whereas the devy people who thought he was some top end RB prospect have been given plenty.mild wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:05 pmFair enough...FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:01 pm I don't think there's really such thing as a 4th round bust, the odds are already against 4th rounders having long established careers. I've personally held the same opinion for the longest time, that he's just not a very good running back in terms of NFL talent. Until I see something that tells me differently, I'm inclined to keep that opinion.
Take lock, you say?FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:30 pm Spiller just isn't very good, people are stuck in that devy take lock IMO, though TBH, I never thought he looked that good in college, either.
Just playing. I'd like to see him get some real carries. Perhaps we'll get our wish. Until then, may we all remain take locked to whatever our opinions are!
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
Spiller finally active this week! Hopefully he gets some reps.
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
+1.mild wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:11 pmExactly. The waiver wires have largely been picked clean in my leagues. It's not like there are other, better dynasty options out there. It's not like we're dropping him.ericanadian wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:56 pmI’m mostly just hoping to see Spiller get a few snaps. I don’t care who he’s behind. This is a move in the right direction. Mostly just want to get some NFL regular season looks at him.
I don't understand the rush to call him a bust when he's literally a 21 year old that has played no regular season snaps yet. It sounds like we may see him get some snaps finally. So let's see it.
And I also don't know why anyone would be putting too much credit in Sony Michel running ahead of him, given that it's obviously a Brandon Staley decision, and that he is likely doing the "tough love, I need a veteran in there who won't f-it-up" etc. I don't know what that particular HC has earned thus far for us to trust his opinion on... well, anything.
That's my take too, wait until the kid sees some game action.
People really quick to hate on a 4th round pick. smdh.
For what? So they can brag about their boy James Cook? gtfoh.
Give rookies the whole season to show you something, especially later round picks.
I could understand people throwing Spiller in the trash if he was a 1st or 2nd round pick that couldn't get on the field, but c'mon now.
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
People weren’t treating him like a day 3 guy who almost fell to the 5th round though.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:06 pm+1.mild wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:11 pmExactly. The waiver wires have largely been picked clean in my leagues. It's not like there are other, better dynasty options out there. It's not like we're dropping him.ericanadian wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:56 pm
I’m mostly just hoping to see Spiller get a few snaps. I don’t care who he’s behind. This is a move in the right direction. Mostly just want to get some NFL regular season looks at him.
I don't understand the rush to call him a bust when he's literally a 21 year old that has played no regular season snaps yet. It sounds like we may see him get some snaps finally. So let's see it.
And I also don't know why anyone would be putting too much credit in Sony Michel running ahead of him, given that it's obviously a Brandon Staley decision, and that he is likely doing the "tough love, I need a veteran in there who won't f-it-up" etc. I don't know what that particular HC has earned thus far for us to trust his opinion on... well, anything.
That's my take too, wait until the kid sees some game action.
People really quick to hate on a 4th round pick. smdh.
For what? So they can brag about their boy James Cook? gtfoh.
Give rookies the whole season to show you something, especially later round picks.
I could understand people throwing Spiller in the trash if he was a 1st or 2nd round pick that couldn't get on the field, but c'mon now.
People were on this sub asking if he was worthy of a late 1st
And sadly, there wasn’t an obvious shutdown of such foolishness! There were multiple people on here advocating for “taking your guy” and being ok with Spiller around the 10-12 pick.
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
I hope he seizes the opportunity, if one is provided of course.
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
I hope he takes the opportunity and runs with it. Very slowly, runs with it.
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
Straycatz2 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:08 pm Spiller finally active this week! Hopefully he gets some reps.
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RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
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QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver, Waller
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WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
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QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
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Re: Isaiah Spiller to the LAC Chargers: 2nd Round Rookie Gem or future JAG?
While you’re right that JAG isn’t necessarily a bust, it is if FFers are paying a late 1st/early 2nd rounder on him.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:01 pmI don't think there's really such thing as a 4th round bust, the odds are already against 4th rounders having long established careers. I've personally held the same opinion for the longest time, that he's just not a very good running back in terms of NFL talent. Until I see something that tells me differently, I'm inclined to keep that opinion.mild wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:11 pmExactly. The waiver wires have largely been picked clean in my leagues. It's not like there are other, better dynasty options out there. It's not like we're dropping him.ericanadian wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:56 pm
I’m mostly just hoping to see Spiller get a few snaps. I don’t care who he’s behind. This is a move in the right direction. Mostly just want to get some NFL regular season looks at him.
I don't understand the rush to call him a bust when he's literally a 21 year old that has played no regular season snaps yet. It sounds like we may see him get some snaps finally. So let's see it.
And I also don't know why anyone would be putting too much credit in Sony Michel running ahead of him, given that it's obviously a Brandon Staley decision, and that he is likely doing the "tough love, I need a veteran in there who won't f-it-up" etc. I don't know what that particular HC has earned thus far for us to trust his opinion on... well, anything.
JAG isn't the same thing as a bust. He will likely stick on an NFL roster for a while, but it's doubtful he ever has sustained FF relevance.
As far as lasting on a NFL roster for a while, I’d question that. This guy was targeted to be Ekeler’s counterpunch and he can’t get past multiple guys on the roster vying for the same position who are JAGs and he got deactivated behind them. If he played STs he probably would have been activated because he’d have at least some value to the team, but apparently he doesn’t even have that - I’d guess at a minimum because he’s too damned slow to play STs, and there could be other reasons that we don’t know because we haven’t seen him play.
RBs who are JAGs or less and can’t play STs don’t have long careers. Look at Trey Sermon. Cut by SF after 1 year and now in PHI he’s played 8 O snaps and 4 ST snaps through 6 weeks - and he’s a great comp for Spiller. Unless Sermon learns to be a quality long snapper he’s quite frankly a waste of roster space that NFL teams can’t afford for long. I’d be looking for him to be playing in Canada before too long and that very well could be Spiller’s career path.
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