2022 Bad Trade Offers

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Re: 2022 Bad Trade Offers

Postby Mephistopheles » Sat May 21, 2022 3:47 pm

mzkp54 wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 1:53 pm
mzkp54 wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 7:04 am Engram, '23 2nd and 3rd for AJ Brown
Update: he now isn’t interested in trading with me in the future because I didn’t counter this.

Sounds like that belongs in the best offers ever thread.
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Re: 2022 Bad Trade Offers

Postby mild » Sat May 21, 2022 4:51 pm

mzkp54 wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 1:53 pm
mzkp54 wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 7:04 am Engram, '23 2nd and 3rd for AJ Brown
Update: he now isn’t interested in trading with me in the future because I didn’t counter this.
Prediction: this is a lie.

I can "not want" to trade with certain owners in my league all I want... but as soon as they pick that player I was hoping would fall to me in the draft... we're right back into the water :lol:

Happens every damn year. Haha.

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Re: 2022 Bad Trade Offers

Postby mzkp54 » Sat May 21, 2022 4:53 pm

mild wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 4:51 pm
mzkp54 wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 1:53 pm
mzkp54 wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 7:04 am Engram, '23 2nd and 3rd for AJ Brown
Update: he now isn’t interested in trading with me in the future because I didn’t counter this.
Prediction: this is a lie.

I can "not want" to trade with certain owners in my league all I want... but as soon as they pick that player I was hoping would fall to me in the draft... we're right back into the water :lol:

Happens every damn year. Haha.
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Re: 2022 Bad Trade Offers

Postby Shoreline Steamers » Sat May 21, 2022 5:53 pm

mzkp54 wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 4:53 pm
mild wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 4:51 pm
mzkp54 wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 1:53 pm

Update: he now isn’t interested in trading with me in the future because I didn’t counter this.
Prediction: this is a lie.

I can "not want" to trade with certain owners in my league all I want... but as soon as they pick that player I was hoping would fall to me in the draft... we're right back into the water :lol:

Happens every damn year. Haha.
Yup. Just made a deal with him hahaha
Yeah, I just saw that one AJ Brown for Breece Hall. That could be a win/win.
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Re: 2022 Bad Trade Offers

Postby lawilt » Mon May 23, 2022 5:13 am

Give: 20th pick in the draft (32 teams, only start 7 w/ small rosters)
Get: Jauan Jennings and Westbrook-Ikhine

I was told I don't know anything about research or numbers because he was overpaying for the pick and both players were worth way more then who was available (Still available included: Zamir White, Rachaard White, Tolbert, Pierce, Allgeier, Brian Robinson, Wandale Robinson, etc.) Not sure how any of these guys wouldn't be worth more then what he's offering and how he's "overpaying"

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Re: 2022 Bad Trade Offers

Postby BabyChark23 » Mon May 23, 2022 5:18 am

lawilt wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 5:13 am Give: 20th pick in the draft (32 teams, only start 7 w/ small rosters)
Get: Jauan Jennings and Westbrook-Ikhine

I was told I don't know anything about research or numbers because he was overpaying for the pick and both players were worth way more then who was available (Still available included: Zamir White, Rachaard White, Tolbert, Pierce, Allgeier, Brian Robinson, Wandale Robinson, etc.) Not sure how any of these guys wouldn't be worth more then what he's offering and how he's "overpaying"
More importantly: why is he overpaying since his two players are so much more valuable then who is available at that pick? :crazy:

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Re: 2022 Bad Trade Offers

Postby Jigga94 » Mon May 23, 2022 5:57 am

BabyChark23 wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 5:18 am
lawilt wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 5:13 am Give: 20th pick in the draft (32 teams, only start 7 w/ small rosters)
Get: Jauan Jennings and Westbrook-Ikhine

I was told I don't know anything about research or numbers because he was overpaying for the pick and both players were worth way more then who was available (Still available included: Zamir White, Rachaard White, Tolbert, Pierce, Allgeier, Brian Robinson, Wandale Robinson, etc.) Not sure how any of these guys wouldn't be worth more then what he's offering and how he's "overpaying"
More importantly: why is he overpaying since his two players are so much more valuable then who is available at that pick? :crazy:
That's the backbone for every bad trade offer lol

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Re: 2022 Bad Trade Offers

Postby lawilt » Mon May 23, 2022 8:55 am

Jigga94 wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 5:57 am
BabyChark23 wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 5:18 am
lawilt wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 5:13 am Give: 20th pick in the draft (32 teams, only start 7 w/ small rosters)
Get: Jauan Jennings and Westbrook-Ikhine

I was told I don't know anything about research or numbers because he was overpaying for the pick and both players were worth way more then who was available (Still available included: Zamir White, Rachaard White, Tolbert, Pierce, Allgeier, Brian Robinson, Wandale Robinson, etc.) Not sure how any of these guys wouldn't be worth more then what he's offering and how he's "overpaying"
More importantly: why is he overpaying since his two players are so much more valuable then who is available at that pick? :crazy:
That's the backbone for every bad trade offer lol
LOL especially when I have to google Jauan Jennings to figure who he even is. I couldn't even find him on some site's wr rankings

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Re: 2022 Bad Trade Offers

Postby Jigga94 » Mon May 23, 2022 9:34 am

lawilt wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:55 am
Jigga94 wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 5:57 am
BabyChark23 wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 5:18 am

More importantly: why is he overpaying since his two players are so much more valuable then who is available at that pick? :crazy:
That's the backbone for every bad trade offer lol
LOL especially when I have to google Jauan Jennings to figure who he even is. I couldn't even find him on some site's wr rankings
My post draft notes from 2020 says "Athletic failure" lol its tough out here for 7th round WR. Unless your name is Strachan

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Re: 2022 Bad Trade Offers

Postby TakeMyAnkle » Tue May 24, 2022 1:51 pm

Got two today from different teams in the same league

12 team, PPR, 1QB,

My: DJ Moore, 23 2nd(guy finished last in 2021)
His: 23 1st, 24 1st both his and he has finished 1st and 2nd the last two years. Top 3 roster

My: Godwin, 24 1st top 3 projected, two 23 2nds one high and one mid
His: Diggs, 24 2nd mid to late, and 25 2nd

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Re: 2022 Bad Trade Offers

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Tue May 24, 2022 2:02 pm

TakeMyAnkle wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 1:51 pm Got two today from different teams in the same league

12 team, PPR, 1QB,

My: DJ Moore, 23 2nd(guy finished last in 2021)
His: 23 1st, 24 1st both his and he has finished 1st and 2nd the last two years. Top 3 roster

My: Godwin, 24 1st top 3 projected, two 23 2nds one high and one mid
His: Diggs, 24 2nd mid to late, and 25 2nd
They don't seem that terrible? Seems like a few owners that know what they're doing to try to get younger and keep competing while buying low Those picks are so far out in the future no one has any guarantee on what they'll be.

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Re: 2022 Bad Trade Offers

Postby BabyChark23 » Tue May 24, 2022 3:33 pm

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 2:02 pm
TakeMyAnkle wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 1:51 pm Got two today from different teams in the same league

12 team, PPR, 1QB,

My: DJ Moore, 23 2nd(guy finished last in 2021)
His: 23 1st, 24 1st both his and he has finished 1st and 2nd the last two years. Top 3 roster

My: Godwin, 24 1st top 3 projected, two 23 2nds one high and one mid
His: Diggs, 24 2nd mid to late, and 25 2nd
They don't seem that terrible? Seems like a few owners that know what they're doing to try to get younger and keep competing while buying low Those picks are so far out in the future no one has any guarantee on what they'll be.
Yeah, I agree. I probably wouldn’t take them but they aren’t terrible. He was probably throwing them out as a starter offer and wanted to start on the lower side hoping you’d counter.

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Re: 2022 Bad Trade Offers

Postby MacDaddy123 » Tue May 24, 2022 10:39 pm

Someone just offered me one 2023 1st round pick for Jonathan Taylor in a 20 team league. :lol:

I told him that JT was worth multiple 1sts, and he told me that he wouldn't do more than two 1sts because RB's have the lifespan of a housefly.

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Re: 2022 Bad Trade Offers

Postby TakeMyAnkle » Wed May 25, 2022 7:15 am

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 2:02 pm
TakeMyAnkle wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 1:51 pm Got two today from different teams in the same league

12 team, PPR, 1QB,

My: DJ Moore, 23 2nd(guy finished last in 2021)
His: 23 1st, 24 1st both his and he has finished 1st and 2nd the last two years. Top 3 roster

My: Godwin, 24 1st top 3 projected, two 23 2nds one high and one mid
His: Diggs, 24 2nd mid to late, and 25 2nd
They don't seem that terrible? Seems like a few owners that know what they're doing to try to get younger and keep competing while buying low Those picks are so far out in the future no one has any guarantee on what they'll be.
Interesting.

The first deal is essentially moving down a max of four draft spots and giving up one late 24 1st for DJ Moore.
The second deal is giving up the two most valuable 2nds by a considerable margin, an early 1st rounder, and Godwin for just Diggs.

Values seem way off.

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Re: 2022 Bad Trade Offers

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Wed May 25, 2022 7:20 am

TakeMyAnkle wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 7:15 am
YouMightDieTryin wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 2:02 pm
TakeMyAnkle wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 1:51 pm Got two today from different teams in the same league

12 team, PPR, 1QB,

My: DJ Moore, 23 2nd(guy finished last in 2021)
His: 23 1st, 24 1st both his and he has finished 1st and 2nd the last two years. Top 3 roster

My: Godwin, 24 1st top 3 projected, two 23 2nds one high and one mid
His: Diggs, 24 2nd mid to late, and 25 2nd
They don't seem that terrible? Seems like a few owners that know what they're doing to try to get younger and keep competing while buying low Those picks are so far out in the future no one has any guarantee on what they'll be.
Interesting.

The first deal is essentially moving down a max of four draft spots and giving up one late 24 1st for DJ Moore.
The second deal is giving up the two most valuable 2nds by a considerable margin, an early 1st rounder, and Godwin for just Diggs.

Values seem way off.
Again - Unless you have preset draft pick orders you can't tell anything 2 years out. Injuries/Lucks(retirements)/flukes come into play and anything can happen. Are they great trades? Meh. For a rebuilding team they COULD be considered/tweaked, but by no means are they Bad.


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