Sounds like that belongs in the best offers ever thread.
2022 Bad Trade Offers
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Sounds like that belongs in the best offers ever thread.
PSA - Haggling is NOT the same as negotiating.
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Prediction: this is a lie.
I can "not want" to trade with certain owners in my league all I want... but as soon as they pick that player I was hoping would fall to me in the draft... we're right back into the water
Happens every damn year. Haha.
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Yup. Just made a deal with him hahaha
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RB- Cook, AJones, Zeke, Chandler, Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, MHJ, DJM, Worthy, QJ
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Yeah, I just saw that one AJ Brown for Breece Hall. That could be a win/win.mzkp54 wrote: ↑Sat May 21, 2022 4:53 pmYup. Just made a deal with him hahaha
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QB: L. Jackson, B. Purdy, T. Lance
RB: J. Mixon, N. Chubb, A. Dillon, J. Cook, K. Mitchell, J. McLaughlin, Z. Evans
WR: J. Chase, C. Godwin, D. Johnson, J. Reed, C. Tillman
TE: TJ Hockenson, D. Njoku, B. Jordan
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RB: B. Robinson, K. Walker, R. Stevenson, K. Herbertl
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RB: B. Robinson, K. Walker, R. Stevenson, K. Herbertl
WR: C. Olave, T. Higgins, B. Aiyuk, N. Collins, Z. Flowers, M. Mims
TE: K. Pitts, D. Njoku
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Give: 20th pick in the draft (32 teams, only start 7 w/ small rosters)
Get: Jauan Jennings and Westbrook-Ikhine
I was told I don't know anything about research or numbers because he was overpaying for the pick and both players were worth way more then who was available (Still available included: Zamir White, Rachaard White, Tolbert, Pierce, Allgeier, Brian Robinson, Wandale Robinson, etc.) Not sure how any of these guys wouldn't be worth more then what he's offering and how he's "overpaying"
Get: Jauan Jennings and Westbrook-Ikhine
I was told I don't know anything about research or numbers because he was overpaying for the pick and both players were worth way more then who was available (Still available included: Zamir White, Rachaard White, Tolbert, Pierce, Allgeier, Brian Robinson, Wandale Robinson, etc.) Not sure how any of these guys wouldn't be worth more then what he's offering and how he's "overpaying"
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More importantly: why is he overpaying since his two players are so much more valuable then who is available at that pick?lawilt wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:13 am Give: 20th pick in the draft (32 teams, only start 7 w/ small rosters)
Get: Jauan Jennings and Westbrook-Ikhine
I was told I don't know anything about research or numbers because he was overpaying for the pick and both players were worth way more then who was available (Still available included: Zamir White, Rachaard White, Tolbert, Pierce, Allgeier, Brian Robinson, Wandale Robinson, etc.) Not sure how any of these guys wouldn't be worth more then what he's offering and how he's "overpaying"
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That's the backbone for every bad trade offer lolBabyChark23 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:18 amMore importantly: why is he overpaying since his two players are so much more valuable then who is available at that pick?lawilt wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:13 am Give: 20th pick in the draft (32 teams, only start 7 w/ small rosters)
Get: Jauan Jennings and Westbrook-Ikhine
I was told I don't know anything about research or numbers because he was overpaying for the pick and both players were worth way more then who was available (Still available included: Zamir White, Rachaard White, Tolbert, Pierce, Allgeier, Brian Robinson, Wandale Robinson, etc.) Not sure how any of these guys wouldn't be worth more then what he's offering and how he's "overpaying"
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LOL especially when I have to google Jauan Jennings to figure who he even is. I couldn't even find him on some site's wr rankingsJigga94 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:57 amThat's the backbone for every bad trade offer lolBabyChark23 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:18 amMore importantly: why is he overpaying since his two players are so much more valuable then who is available at that pick?lawilt wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:13 am Give: 20th pick in the draft (32 teams, only start 7 w/ small rosters)
Get: Jauan Jennings and Westbrook-Ikhine
I was told I don't know anything about research or numbers because he was overpaying for the pick and both players were worth way more then who was available (Still available included: Zamir White, Rachaard White, Tolbert, Pierce, Allgeier, Brian Robinson, Wandale Robinson, etc.) Not sure how any of these guys wouldn't be worth more then what he's offering and how he's "overpaying"
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My post draft notes from 2020 says "Athletic failure" lol its tough out here for 7th round WR. Unless your name is Strachanlawilt wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 8:55 amLOL especially when I have to google Jauan Jennings to figure who he even is. I couldn't even find him on some site's wr rankingsJigga94 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:57 amThat's the backbone for every bad trade offer lolBabyChark23 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:18 am
More importantly: why is he overpaying since his two players are so much more valuable then who is available at that pick?
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Got two today from different teams in the same league
12 team, PPR, 1QB,
My: DJ Moore, 23 2nd(guy finished last in 2021)
His: 23 1st, 24 1st both his and he has finished 1st and 2nd the last two years. Top 3 roster
My: Godwin, 24 1st top 3 projected, two 23 2nds one high and one mid
His: Diggs, 24 2nd mid to late, and 25 2nd
12 team, PPR, 1QB,
My: DJ Moore, 23 2nd(guy finished last in 2021)
His: 23 1st, 24 1st both his and he has finished 1st and 2nd the last two years. Top 3 roster
My: Godwin, 24 1st top 3 projected, two 23 2nds one high and one mid
His: Diggs, 24 2nd mid to late, and 25 2nd
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They don't seem that terrible? Seems like a few owners that know what they're doing to try to get younger and keep competing while buying low Those picks are so far out in the future no one has any guarantee on what they'll be.TakeMyAnkle wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 1:51 pm Got two today from different teams in the same league
12 team, PPR, 1QB,
My: DJ Moore, 23 2nd(guy finished last in 2021)
His: 23 1st, 24 1st both his and he has finished 1st and 2nd the last two years. Top 3 roster
My: Godwin, 24 1st top 3 projected, two 23 2nds one high and one mid
His: Diggs, 24 2nd mid to late, and 25 2nd
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Yeah, I agree. I probably wouldn’t take them but they aren’t terrible. He was probably throwing them out as a starter offer and wanted to start on the lower side hoping you’d counter.YouMightDieTryin wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 2:02 pmThey don't seem that terrible? Seems like a few owners that know what they're doing to try to get younger and keep competing while buying low Those picks are so far out in the future no one has any guarantee on what they'll be.TakeMyAnkle wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 1:51 pm Got two today from different teams in the same league
12 team, PPR, 1QB,
My: DJ Moore, 23 2nd(guy finished last in 2021)
His: 23 1st, 24 1st both his and he has finished 1st and 2nd the last two years. Top 3 roster
My: Godwin, 24 1st top 3 projected, two 23 2nds one high and one mid
His: Diggs, 24 2nd mid to late, and 25 2nd
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Someone just offered me one 2023 1st round pick for Jonathan Taylor in a 20 team league.
I told him that JT was worth multiple 1sts, and he told me that he wouldn't do more than two 1sts because RB's have the lifespan of a housefly.
I told him that JT was worth multiple 1sts, and he told me that he wouldn't do more than two 1sts because RB's have the lifespan of a housefly.
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Interesting.YouMightDieTryin wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 2:02 pmThey don't seem that terrible? Seems like a few owners that know what they're doing to try to get younger and keep competing while buying low Those picks are so far out in the future no one has any guarantee on what they'll be.TakeMyAnkle wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 1:51 pm Got two today from different teams in the same league
12 team, PPR, 1QB,
My: DJ Moore, 23 2nd(guy finished last in 2021)
His: 23 1st, 24 1st both his and he has finished 1st and 2nd the last two years. Top 3 roster
My: Godwin, 24 1st top 3 projected, two 23 2nds one high and one mid
His: Diggs, 24 2nd mid to late, and 25 2nd
The first deal is essentially moving down a max of four draft spots and giving up one late 24 1st for DJ Moore.
The second deal is giving up the two most valuable 2nds by a considerable margin, an early 1st rounder, and Godwin for just Diggs.
Values seem way off.
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Again - Unless you have preset draft pick orders you can't tell anything 2 years out. Injuries/Lucks(retirements)/flukes come into play and anything can happen. Are they great trades? Meh. For a rebuilding team they COULD be considered/tweaked, but by no means are they Bad.TakeMyAnkle wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 7:15 amInteresting.YouMightDieTryin wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 2:02 pmThey don't seem that terrible? Seems like a few owners that know what they're doing to try to get younger and keep competing while buying low Those picks are so far out in the future no one has any guarantee on what they'll be.TakeMyAnkle wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 1:51 pm Got two today from different teams in the same league
12 team, PPR, 1QB,
My: DJ Moore, 23 2nd(guy finished last in 2021)
His: 23 1st, 24 1st both his and he has finished 1st and 2nd the last two years. Top 3 roster
My: Godwin, 24 1st top 3 projected, two 23 2nds one high and one mid
His: Diggs, 24 2nd mid to late, and 25 2nd
The first deal is essentially moving down a max of four draft spots and giving up one late 24 1st for DJ Moore.
The second deal is giving up the two most valuable 2nds by a considerable margin, an early 1st rounder, and Godwin for just Diggs.
Values seem way off.
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