Swift or Mitchell/Pittman

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Swift or Mitchell/Pittman

Postby OhSnapItsAnt » Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:26 am

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10 team SF TEP .25 ppc

Allen Burrow
Swift, Hunt, JRob, Hines, Herbert
Chase, AJB, Woods, Emoore, Mooney, Gallup
Andrews, Kmet
Team 1:
10 team SF, .5 ppr
1-QB 1-SF 3-WR 2-RB 1-TE 1-Flex
QB: Allen, Burrow, Goff, Aidan OConnel
RB: ETN, K Walker, Swift, Spears, Brooks, Benson, D Pierce, Herbert, McLaughlin, Roschon
WR: Aiyuk, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Dell, Higgins, E Moore, Michael Wilson
TE: Kincaid, Sinnott, Njoku

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Re: Swift or Mitchell/Pittman

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:27 am

I like Pittman but still worry about Mitchell until we see what San Francisco does with him this year. I would stick with what you have in Swift.

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Re: Swift or Mitchell/Pittman

Postby The MAC Machine » Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:46 am

Mitchell/Pittman

Swift is in a much worse situation and ultimately has not shown to be capable of being that much more productive than Mitchell. Pittman is a pretty solid young add-on.
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Re: Swift or Mitchell/Pittman

Postby StripesOfKC » Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:34 pm

Swift is insanely underrated

Him by miles and miles

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Re: Swift or Mitchell/Pittman

Postby spotxc » Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:09 pm

StripesOfKC wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:34 pm Swift is insanely underrated

Him by miles and miles
Underrated!? He’s ranked as the dynasty rb3. I get it if you like him but being ranked as the 3rd best rb in dynasty already is not underrated. What can he move up 1 spot? Most likely overrated imo.

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Re: Swift or Mitchell/Pittman

Postby StripesOfKC » Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:46 pm

spotxc wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:09 pm
StripesOfKC wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:34 pm Swift is insanely underrated

Him by miles and miles
Underrated!? He’s ranked as the dynasty rb3. I get it if you like him but being ranked as the 3rd best rb in dynasty already is not underrated. What can he move up 1 spot? Most likely overrated imo.
On this forum
More so than the wide community

People here think his numbers are only Goff dump offs instead of targets earned by being one of the best receiving backs in football

Or when they parrot the bad situation bullshit

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Re: Swift or Mitchell/Pittman

Postby The MAC Machine » Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:14 pm

StripesOfKC wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:46 pm
spotxc wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:09 pm
StripesOfKC wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:34 pm Swift is insanely underrated

Him by miles and miles
Underrated!? He’s ranked as the dynasty rb3. I get it if you like him but being ranked as the 3rd best rb in dynasty already is not underrated. What can he move up 1 spot? Most likely overrated imo.
On this forum
More so than the wide community

People here think his numbers are only Goff dump offs instead of targets earned by being one of the best receiving backs in football

Or when they parrot the bad situation bullshit
So you think Swift is in a decent situation? :eh:

Lets put it this way....

RB A 2019: 265-1152-2, 76-522-0 in 15 games (bad situation)
RB A 2021: 180-812-8, 69-454-2 in 14 games (good situation)
RB B 2021: 151-617-5, 62-452-2 in 13 games

Now nobody has ever ranked RBA in the top 5 regardless of his good or bad situation. It doesnt matter if Swift is one of the "best receiving backs in football" in someones opinion...he hasnt broken 1000 yards rushing. He barely hit double digit touchdowns as a rookie (with Matthew Stafford). He is not even on a remotely decent team, and only has a remotely decent QB. On subjective matters (talent and value) one can argue many things (like being a clear choice by "miles and miles")....but his outlook is not clear, and his production output has not lived up to his talent. It is not practical to put him miles and miles ahead in this scenario.

Give me the 2nd year 1000 yard WR and the rookie (nearly 1000 yard) RB - both of whom are in better situations. Unless you think Swift is going to become the next Kamara.
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Re: Swift or Mitchell/Pittman

Postby StripesOfKC » Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:35 pm

The MAC Machine wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:14 pm
StripesOfKC wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:46 pm
spotxc wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:09 pm

Underrated!? He’s ranked as the dynasty rb3. I get it if you like him but being ranked as the 3rd best rb in dynasty already is not underrated. What can he move up 1 spot? Most likely overrated imo.
On this forum
More so than the wide community

People here think his numbers are only Goff dump offs instead of targets earned by being one of the best receiving backs in football

Or when they parrot the bad situation bullshit
So you think Swift is in a decent situation? :eh:

Lets put it this way....

RB A 2019: 265-1152-2, 76-522-0 in 15 games (bad situation)
RB A 2021: 180-812-8, 69-454-2 in 14 games (good situation)
RB B 2021: 151-617-5, 62-452-2 in 13 games

Now nobody has ever ranked RBA in the top 5 regardless of his good or bad situation. It doesnt matter if Swift is one of the "best receiving backs in football" in someones opinion...he hasnt broken 1000 yards rushing. He barely hit double digit touchdowns as a rookie (with Matthew Stafford). He is not even on a remotely decent team, and only has a remotely decent QB. On subjective matters (talent and value) one can argue many things (like being a clear choice by "miles and miles")....but his outlook is not clear, and his production output has not lived up to his talent. It is not practical to put him miles and miles ahead in this scenario.

Give me the 2nd year 1000 yard WR and the rookie (nearly 1000 yard) RB - both of whom are in better situations. Unless you think Swift is going to become the next Kamara.
He was literally a RB1 in PPG last year

He literally earned an 18.4% target share last season--making him one of the best receiving backs in football with solid efficiency (catch rate, yards per route run, yards created and juke rate) to back it up

He is not a very good runner--I agree with that

Playing from behind consistently in offense without a dominant WR but a solid line and a QB who can at least feed targets is a decent situation--not good, not bad--just a net neutral

And yeah Swift's prospect profile and early career production actually has quite a few similarities to Kamara

Facts (like being one of the best receiving backs in football and RB1 in PPG last year)+Opinion>>Just opinion

Weren't you arguing Sam Darnold was good? Or was that someone else?


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