I was hoping to pick the brains of people who have done this, to get a feel for their preferences. I've only ever picked up orphaned teams, and am co-commissioner of a new startup. The core of the group are meeting soon to discuss things, and I wanted people's opinions on the following:
1) Would you do Superflex in a 12-team league? Many thoughts that this would drive the value of QBs even higher than they already are in a SF league.
2) Thoughts on TE premium?
3) If the startup draft wasn't until after the NFL draft, would you include rookies in your startup draft, or have a separate draft for them? If the latter, would you make "Rookie Draft Pick 1.01" a draftable player in the startup?
4) Which sites do you like or hate?
5) Thoughts on best ball? With such large rosters....
6) Anything you'd offer as advice I haven't covered?
My appreciation for whatever thoughts I get back!
Setting up a startup league
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Setting up a startup league
Team 1 - 10-Team SF Full PPR - QB/2RB/2WR/TE/SF/3FLEX
QB - Jackson/Prescott/Levis/Brissett/Fields/Lance
RB - Bijan/Breece/Stevenson/Foreman/DJackson
WR - Chase/AJBrown/Wilson/Nucua/DJohnson/Chark/EMoore/DRobinson
TE - LaPorta/McBride/Fant/Hill
TAXI - Hull/Shaheed/Perry/Thornton/Scott/Iosivas/CJones/Dulcich/JWoods/DAllen
2024 - 1.08, 2.02, 3.04, 4.01
2025 - 1, 2, 3, 4, 4
2026 - 1, 2, 3, 4
Team 2 - 12-Team SF Full PPR - TE .5 Prem - QB/RB/2WR/SF/4FLEX
QB - Jackson/Goff/Murray/Brissett
RB - KWilliams/Swift/AJones/Stevenson/Dowdle
WR - Chase/Waddle/Metcalf/Higgins/Nabers/Chandler
TE - Andrews/JJohnson/Bowers
TAXI - Hooker/Rattler/RJohnson/RDavis/Iosivas/McMillan/JWoods
IR -
2025 - 1,2,2,3,3,4
2026 - 2,3,4
QB - Jackson/Prescott/Levis/Brissett/Fields/Lance
RB - Bijan/Breece/Stevenson/Foreman/DJackson
WR - Chase/AJBrown/Wilson/Nucua/DJohnson/Chark/EMoore/DRobinson
TE - LaPorta/McBride/Fant/Hill
TAXI - Hull/Shaheed/Perry/Thornton/Scott/Iosivas/CJones/Dulcich/JWoods/DAllen
2024 - 1.08, 2.02, 3.04, 4.01
2025 - 1, 2, 3, 4, 4
2026 - 1, 2, 3, 4
Team 2 - 12-Team SF Full PPR - TE .5 Prem - QB/RB/2WR/SF/4FLEX
QB - Jackson/Goff/Murray/Brissett
RB - KWilliams/Swift/AJones/Stevenson/Dowdle
WR - Chase/Waddle/Metcalf/Higgins/Nabers/Chandler
TE - Andrews/JJohnson/Bowers
TAXI - Hooker/Rattler/RJohnson/RDavis/Iosivas/McMillan/JWoods
IR -
2025 - 1,2,2,3,3,4
2026 - 2,3,4
Re: Setting up a startup league
Hello, I think it's great that you are reaching out for ideas, but I'll point out there really is no one right way to run a league (though I will say there are some wrong ways). I'll answer your questions and give my opinions on the types of leagues I most enjoy:ProfPoobah wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 11:37 am I was hoping to pick the brains of people who have done this, to get a feel for their preferences. I've only ever picked up orphaned teams, and am co-commissioner of a new startup. The core of the group are meeting soon to discuss things, and I wanted people's opinions on the following:
1) Would you do Superflex in a 12-team league? Many thoughts that this would drive the value of QBs even higher than they already are in a SF league.
2) Thoughts on TE premium?
3) If the startup draft wasn't until after the NFL draft, would you include rookies in your startup draft, or have a separate draft for them? If the latter, would you make "Rookie Draft Pick 1.01" a draftable player in the startup?
4) Which sites do you like or hate?
5) Thoughts on best ball? With such large rosters....
6) Anything you'd offer as advice I haven't covered?
My appreciation for whatever thoughts I get back!
(1) Currently my favorite size and format is a 14 team SF. You are right that SF increases the value of QB but you can also say that 1QB increases the value of wr and RB. Personally I think QB is almost worthless in a 1 QB league.
(2) TE premium is fine, but if you really want to increase the value of TE, start 2 TE is the way to go. The real issue with TE is that there are so few great ones and the rest are average. One option is to just completely eliminate the TE requirement but I don't particularly like that method. I'm fine with there just being some elite TEs out there that have overinflated prices.
(3) if it's after the rookie draft you include the rookies no matter what. If it's before the draft you can either include rookies (without knowing their draft capital or landing spots) or you draft rookie picks. Under no circumstances do you ever have two separate drafts where the rookie order is reverse order of the main startup. honestly given the time I just suggest doing one draft after the NFL draft
(4) I like MFL, but really it's just personal taste.
(5) bestball is fine, but I like the strategy of setting lineups and playing matchups.
(6)
Personally I prefer to have an auction start-up. This allows everyone to have a chance at drafting every player. Other important rules are no league votes for vetoes and only trades that are vetoed are for collusion. Any offendered that collude are replaced asap.
I also want to point out that any set of rules are fine as long as everyone agrees to them.
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
Re: Setting up a startup league
1. Kinda confused here. question seems like SF would drive QB price higher than in SF? I highly recomend SF to give QBs the ability to actually get value over a mid first and be actual assets.ProfPoobah wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 11:37 am I was hoping to pick the brains of people who have done this, to get a feel for their preferences. I've only ever picked up orphaned teams, and am co-commissioner of a new startup. The core of the group are meeting soon to discuss things, and I wanted people's opinions on the following:
1) Would you do Superflex in a 12-team league? Many thoughts that this would drive the value of QBs even higher than they already are in a SF league.
2) Thoughts on TE premium?
3) If the startup draft wasn't until after the NFL draft, would you include rookies in your startup draft, or have a separate draft for them? If the latter, would you make "Rookie Draft Pick 1.01" a draftable player in the startup?
4) Which sites do you like or hate?
5) Thoughts on best ball? With such large rosters....
6) Anything you'd offer as advice I haven't covered?
My appreciation for whatever thoughts I get back!
2. Yes, same as SF. Without it after the top 1-4 guys its just a replacement level crapshoot
3. I prefer drafting pick #s just to avoid the Harmon types but its fun to make people call there shots. You can draft kickers as rookie pick placeholders... first kicker taken = 1.1, second 1.2 etc
4. I love sleeper if you use mobile apps, apparently people had issues with using them for buy ins so you may want to go 3rd party
5. never played it tbh but Im in huge roster deep starting req and it works
Re: Setting up a startup league
I've set up 7-8 leagues over the years and still commission all but one of them. Here are my suggestions for whatever they are worth.ProfPoobah wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 11:37 am I was hoping to pick the brains of people who have done this, to get a feel for their preferences. I've only ever picked up orphaned teams, and am co-commissioner of a new startup. The core of the group are meeting soon to discuss things, and I wanted people's opinions on the following:
1) Would you do Superflex in a 12-team league? Many thoughts that this would drive the value of QBs even higher than they already are in a SF league.
2) Thoughts on TE premium?
3) If the startup draft wasn't until after the NFL draft, would you include rookies in your startup draft, or have a separate draft for them? If the latter, would you make "Rookie Draft Pick 1.01" a draftable player in the startup?
4) Which sites do you like or hate?
5) Thoughts on best ball? With such large rosters....
6) Anything you'd offer as advice I haven't covered?
My appreciation for whatever thoughts I get back!
1) Yes, this makes the league so much more interesting. SF in a 12 team league is fun. Ideally, your roster has 3 starters, but only 8 out of 12 teams can achieve this mathematically.
2) never done TE premium, might be fun though if you wanted to increase the value of as many positions as possible and thus increase the overall value of draft picks
3) I have always had the start up draft after the NFL draft and with one exception included the rookies every time. The reason is that it is difficult to determine a fair draft order for the rookie picks with no previous season. I really like putting the rookie picks in the startup draft instead of the actual players however. We've done it this way before and it's definitely fun.
4) If the league is going to be a 12 team league without any weird features such as double copies of players, etc., I love Fleaflicker. It's free and it's designed for dynasty. Keeps all of your league history etc. Definitely avoid the mainstream sites like Yahoo and ESPN for dynasty. They are designed very specifically for redraft and don't track your rookie picks, draft order, etc.
5) Never done best ball but I plan to at some point. It depends how much ongoing management you want the owners to have and how much involvement you want. Setting lineups keeps people more engaged IMO and allows skilled owners to gain an edge by setting better lineups. Best ball ensures a more fair competition since it eliminates games where somebody plays against a lineup that isn't set properly (ie has injured players, bye week players, etc. starting)
6) Yes, several things
8 Team PPR: Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 2 IDP Flex
Initial season 2011 - Champs 2011|2013|2019|2021 - Runner up 2020|2022
QB: Lamar, Dak, Herbert, Jordan Love, Bryce Young
RB: Chubb, Swift, Mixon, Montgomery, Pacheco, Brian Robinson, Rachaad White, Tyjae, Miles Sanders, Deuce Vaughn,
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, AJ Brown, Pittman, Kupp, Deebo, DJ Moore, Christian Watson, Godwin, QJ, Rashee Rice
TE: Kelce, Taysom
K:
EDR/IL: TJW, Parsons
LB: Zaire, K Murray, Okereke, Quay, Lloyd, Hicks
DB: Whitehead,
10 Team PPR league: Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR, 1 Superflex, 1 D/ST
Initial Season: 2013 - Champs 2014|2016 - Runner up 2022
QB: Dak, Anthony Richardson, Geno Smith, Trey Lance
RB: Achane, Brian Robinson, Chuba, James Conner, Pierce, Akers
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, Pittman, DK Metcalf, Nacua, Godwin, JuJu, Kyle Philips, Tillman
TE: Kittle, McBride, Michael Mayer, Musgrave, Ertz
D/ST: Green Bay
Initial season 2011 - Champs 2011|2013|2019|2021 - Runner up 2020|2022
QB: Lamar, Dak, Herbert, Jordan Love, Bryce Young
RB: Chubb, Swift, Mixon, Montgomery, Pacheco, Brian Robinson, Rachaad White, Tyjae, Miles Sanders, Deuce Vaughn,
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, AJ Brown, Pittman, Kupp, Deebo, DJ Moore, Christian Watson, Godwin, QJ, Rashee Rice
TE: Kelce, Taysom
K:
EDR/IL: TJW, Parsons
LB: Zaire, K Murray, Okereke, Quay, Lloyd, Hicks
DB: Whitehead,
10 Team PPR league: Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR, 1 Superflex, 1 D/ST
Initial Season: 2013 - Champs 2014|2016 - Runner up 2022
QB: Dak, Anthony Richardson, Geno Smith, Trey Lance
RB: Achane, Brian Robinson, Chuba, James Conner, Pierce, Akers
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, Pittman, DK Metcalf, Nacua, Godwin, JuJu, Kyle Philips, Tillman
TE: Kittle, McBride, Michael Mayer, Musgrave, Ertz
D/ST: Green Bay
Re: Setting up a startup league
I'd do 35 teams 3 copy.
CONTENTION 2
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks
CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson
ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks
CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson
ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints
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