Hey guys,
Looking for some advice for team in sig. those are my core players. injuries have killed me this year. Should I stay the course and ride it into next year or look to full rebuild and move off of basically everyone but DJM.
Admit defeat?
Admit defeat?
10 team. Non-PPR
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K
QB: Tua, Watson
RB: Barkley
WR: DJM, Pickens, Bateman, Pierce, Doubs, Metchie, Meyers
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Likely
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K
QB: Tua, Watson
RB: Barkley
WR: DJM, Pickens, Bateman, Pierce, Doubs, Metchie, Meyers
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Likely
Re: Admit defeat?
In a 10 teamer, I would look to rebuild. The problem is a lot of your pieces don't hold the value you want in a trade scenario at this point.
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts
Re: Admit defeat?
I'd be moving Kelce as soon as possible here. In fact, everyone except DJM goes. Unfortunately, Wilson, ARob, Julio, AB, Carson have little to no value at this point. Even Barkley value has plummeted. You might get a decent return on Cooper if he comes back soon though it looks like he'll miss at least another game.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
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Re: Admit defeat?
Depending on returns, I would be looking to retool this team before it is too late. That being said, I would not just give players away and patience and shrewd moves will be needed here. It never hurts to shop your assets and see what is out there.
Re: Admit defeat?
Probably a good idea to get a price check this off season on guys like Carson, Julio and A-rob. What pick do you think you'll end up with?
I ask, because in this format you're really only a quality RB2 away from being a playoff team, assuming you stay healthy. If you can add an early round RB, or look to move that pick and one of those vet for a quality RB I think you could make some noise next year.
I ask, because in this format you're really only a quality RB2 away from being a playoff team, assuming you stay healthy. If you can add an early round RB, or look to move that pick and one of those vet for a quality RB I think you could make some noise next year.
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Team 1
12 Team .5 PPR
Starters 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Hurts Love Cousins
RB CMC Stevenson Ekeler Mostert Spiller
WR Hill Puka Aiyuk Cooper
TE McBride
Team 2
12 Team PPR SF TE Prem
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Williams, A-Rich, Daniels
RB J. Wright Hull
WR Nabers Flowers C. Watson Burton Mingo
TE McBride Musgrave Mayer Fant
7 2025 1sts
5 2026 1sts
2 2027 1sts
Team 3
12 Team PPR SF
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Burrow Purdy Penix Howell
RB Taylor Hall Kyren Pollard Z. White Dowdle
WR Lamb Puka Deebo Dionte McConkey M. Williams Zay Jones
TE Njoku Fant Hill
Team 4
12 Team .5 PPR SF TE Prem 1 PPR
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Purdy Cousins Watson Levis Fields
RB Bijan Gibbs Barkley Walker Kyren Brooks
WR Lamb Hill Kupp Dell Diontae McConkey E. Moore Mims Pierce
TE Hockenson Goedert
2 2025 1sts
4 2026 1sts
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Team 1
12 Team .5 PPR
Starters 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Hurts Love Cousins
RB CMC Stevenson Ekeler Mostert Spiller
WR Hill Puka Aiyuk Cooper
TE McBride
Team 2
12 Team PPR SF TE Prem
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Williams, A-Rich, Daniels
RB J. Wright Hull
WR Nabers Flowers C. Watson Burton Mingo
TE McBride Musgrave Mayer Fant
7 2025 1sts
5 2026 1sts
2 2027 1sts
Team 3
12 Team PPR SF
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Burrow Purdy Penix Howell
RB Taylor Hall Kyren Pollard Z. White Dowdle
WR Lamb Puka Deebo Dionte McConkey M. Williams Zay Jones
TE Njoku Fant Hill
Team 4
12 Team .5 PPR SF TE Prem 1 PPR
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Purdy Cousins Watson Levis Fields
RB Bijan Gibbs Barkley Walker Kyren Brooks
WR Lamb Hill Kupp Dell Diontae McConkey E. Moore Mims Pierce
TE Hockenson Goedert
2 2025 1sts
4 2026 1sts
Re: Admit defeat?
Thanks for the input guys.
A little more information. I don’t have my 1st this year gave it up for JRob prior to the season, it’s currently 1.01…
I traded RoJo for 2 2nds yesterday and Tua.
I’ve got an offer for Kelce currently.
Give: Kelce
Get: Bateman, Higbee, 2023 1st
He also has Higgins, I’m thinking of countering with him instead of Bateman.
Another owner in 1st has offered 2022 and 223 1sts and Fant.
Thanks for the help
A little more information. I don’t have my 1st this year gave it up for JRob prior to the season, it’s currently 1.01…
I traded RoJo for 2 2nds yesterday and Tua.
I’ve got an offer for Kelce currently.
Give: Kelce
Get: Bateman, Higbee, 2023 1st
He also has Higgins, I’m thinking of countering with him instead of Bateman.
Another owner in 1st has offered 2022 and 223 1sts and Fant.
Thanks for the help
10 team. Non-PPR
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K
QB: Tua, Watson
RB: Barkley
WR: DJM, Pickens, Bateman, Pierce, Doubs, Metchie, Meyers
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Likely
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K
QB: Tua, Watson
RB: Barkley
WR: DJM, Pickens, Bateman, Pierce, Doubs, Metchie, Meyers
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Likely
Re: Admit defeat?
Interesting offers. I like the idea of getting 2 1sts and Fant. Sounds like they'll probably be late, but in a 10 team league I'm not as worried about that. Any chance you could try and sub out one of those future 1sts for a WR to go along with Fant and a 1st?Lightzout wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:24 am Thanks for the input guys.
A little more information. I don’t have my 1st this year gave it up for JRob prior to the season, it’s currently 1.01…
I traded RoJo for 2 2nds yesterday and Tua.
I’ve got an offer for Kelce currently.
Give: Kelce
Get: Bateman, Higbee, 2023 1st
He also has Higgins, I’m thinking of countering with him instead of Bateman.
Another owner in 1st has offered 2022 and 223 1sts and Fant.
Thanks for the help
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Team 1
12 Team .5 PPR
Starters 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Hurts Love Cousins
RB CMC Stevenson Ekeler Mostert Spiller
WR Hill Puka Aiyuk Cooper
TE McBride
Team 2
12 Team PPR SF TE Prem
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Williams, A-Rich, Daniels
RB J. Wright Hull
WR Nabers Flowers C. Watson Burton Mingo
TE McBride Musgrave Mayer Fant
7 2025 1sts
5 2026 1sts
2 2027 1sts
Team 3
12 Team PPR SF
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Burrow Purdy Penix Howell
RB Taylor Hall Kyren Pollard Z. White Dowdle
WR Lamb Puka Deebo Dionte McConkey M. Williams Zay Jones
TE Njoku Fant Hill
Team 4
12 Team .5 PPR SF TE Prem 1 PPR
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Purdy Cousins Watson Levis Fields
RB Bijan Gibbs Barkley Walker Kyren Brooks
WR Lamb Hill Kupp Dell Diontae McConkey E. Moore Mims Pierce
TE Hockenson Goedert
2 2025 1sts
4 2026 1sts
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Team 1
12 Team .5 PPR
Starters 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Hurts Love Cousins
RB CMC Stevenson Ekeler Mostert Spiller
WR Hill Puka Aiyuk Cooper
TE McBride
Team 2
12 Team PPR SF TE Prem
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Williams, A-Rich, Daniels
RB J. Wright Hull
WR Nabers Flowers C. Watson Burton Mingo
TE McBride Musgrave Mayer Fant
7 2025 1sts
5 2026 1sts
2 2027 1sts
Team 3
12 Team PPR SF
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Burrow Purdy Penix Howell
RB Taylor Hall Kyren Pollard Z. White Dowdle
WR Lamb Puka Deebo Dionte McConkey M. Williams Zay Jones
TE Njoku Fant Hill
Team 4
12 Team .5 PPR SF TE Prem 1 PPR
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Purdy Cousins Watson Levis Fields
RB Bijan Gibbs Barkley Walker Kyren Brooks
WR Lamb Hill Kupp Dell Diontae McConkey E. Moore Mims Pierce
TE Hockenson Goedert
2 2025 1sts
4 2026 1sts
Re: Admit defeat?
I'd look to put the for sale sign out right now, look to add youth and picks. Your core is solid, but injured or underperforming this year. I'd let the whole league know that Kelce, Cooper, Wilso, Barkley, ARob and even DJM are all available. The issue is Wilson has looked horrible, Barkley injured, etc, so all of the players are almost a sell low. You may have to wait until the off season when someone like ARob (hopefully) signs elsewhere and rebounds. Good luck.
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10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
Re: Admit defeat?
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Interesting offers. I like the idea of getting 2 1sts and Fant. Sounds like they'll probably be late, but in a 10 team league I'm not as worried about that. Any chance you could try and sub out one of those future 1sts for a WR to go along with Fant and a 1st?
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The Fant owner wouldn’t add a wr. He countered with Goedert + 2022 1st (currently 1.10) + 2nd not too sold
The other deal I can pull is for Bateman + Gesicki + 2022 1st (currently 1.09)
I’m leaning the Bateman deal
Interesting offers. I like the idea of getting 2 1sts and Fant. Sounds like they'll probably be late, but in a 10 team league I'm not as worried about that. Any chance you could try and sub out one of those future 1sts for a WR to go along with Fant and a 1st?
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The Fant owner wouldn’t add a wr. He countered with Goedert + 2022 1st (currently 1.10) + 2nd not too sold
The other deal I can pull is for Bateman + Gesicki + 2022 1st (currently 1.09)
I’m leaning the Bateman deal
10 team. Non-PPR
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K
QB: Tua, Watson
RB: Barkley
WR: DJM, Pickens, Bateman, Pierce, Doubs, Metchie, Meyers
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Likely
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K
QB: Tua, Watson
RB: Barkley
WR: DJM, Pickens, Bateman, Pierce, Doubs, Metchie, Meyers
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Likely
Re: Admit defeat?
Interesting offers. I like the idea of getting 2 1sts and Fant. Sounds like they'll probably be late, but in a 10 team league I'm not as worried about that. Any chance you could try and sub out one of those future 1sts for a WR to go along with Fant and a 1st?
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The Fant owner wouldn’t add a wr. He countered with Goedert + 2022 1st (currently 1.10) + 2nd not too sold
The other deal I can pull is for Bateman + Gesicki + 2022 1st (currently 1.09)
I’m leaning the Bateman deal
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I like the Bateman, Gesicki and the 1st for Kelce. It's a solid 3 for 1 where you get a lot younger.
Re: Admit defeat?
Unfortunately a lot of your pieces hold very little value in a 10 team league unless it's unusually deep. If you're deadline hasn't passed I'd be looking to turn Saquon, Kelce, and JRob into 3 firsts if you can...preferably '22s, or the equivalent in high end young players - IR guys are good targets here (Dobbins, Akers, ect - I was able to buy AJB at what I figure was a nice discount this week bc a contender needed help today).
I could also justify moving on from DJM with the shitshow they have going on over there. AB might still have value to a contender for the deep run - full of problems again but he is the WR4 in ppr on a per game basis this year.
Basically, in a 10 team league with this team, I want to blow it sky high while these guys still have stretch value for contenders today. It's unlikely people are in a hurry to acquire someone like Barkley or AB in the offseason unless its at a steep discount. I think you're stuck with Julio and ARob, but at least ARob is a high upside stash for next year.
I could also justify moving on from DJM with the shitshow they have going on over there. AB might still have value to a contender for the deep run - full of problems again but he is the WR4 in ppr on a per game basis this year.
Basically, in a 10 team league with this team, I want to blow it sky high while these guys still have stretch value for contenders today. It's unlikely people are in a hurry to acquire someone like Barkley or AB in the offseason unless its at a steep discount. I think you're stuck with Julio and ARob, but at least ARob is a high upside stash for next year.
Re: Admit defeat?
So pulled the trigger on the
Kelce for Bateman, Gesicki + 2022 1st (late) trade
I’ve floated a trade to the 6 seed, he said he’s interested
Give: Barkley + jRob
Receive: Dobbins + 22 1st + 23 1st
I’ve tried shopping both backs and really had little interest for any real value. This trade seems like my best shot at moving off for some upside.
Thoughts?
Kelce for Bateman, Gesicki + 2022 1st (late) trade
I’ve floated a trade to the 6 seed, he said he’s interested
Give: Barkley + jRob
Receive: Dobbins + 22 1st + 23 1st
I’ve tried shopping both backs and really had little interest for any real value. This trade seems like my best shot at moving off for some upside.
Thoughts?
10 team. Non-PPR
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K
QB: Tua, Watson
RB: Barkley
WR: DJM, Pickens, Bateman, Pierce, Doubs, Metchie, Meyers
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Likely
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K
QB: Tua, Watson
RB: Barkley
WR: DJM, Pickens, Bateman, Pierce, Doubs, Metchie, Meyers
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Likely
Re: Admit defeat?
Where do you think those firsts will land?Lightzout wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:46 pm So pulled the trigger on the
Kelce for Bateman, Gesicki + 2022 1st (late) trade
I’ve floated a trade to the 6 seed, he said he’s interested
Give: Barkley + jRob
Receive: Dobbins + 22 1st + 23 1st
I’ve tried shopping both backs and really had little interest for any real value. This trade seems like my best shot at moving off for some upside.
Thoughts?
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Team 1
12 Team .5 PPR
Starters 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Hurts Love Cousins
RB CMC Stevenson Ekeler Mostert Spiller
WR Hill Puka Aiyuk Cooper
TE McBride
Team 2
12 Team PPR SF TE Prem
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Williams, A-Rich, Daniels
RB J. Wright Hull
WR Nabers Flowers C. Watson Burton Mingo
TE McBride Musgrave Mayer Fant
7 2025 1sts
5 2026 1sts
2 2027 1sts
Team 3
12 Team PPR SF
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Burrow Purdy Penix Howell
RB Taylor Hall Kyren Pollard Z. White Dowdle
WR Lamb Puka Deebo Dionte McConkey M. Williams Zay Jones
TE Njoku Fant Hill
Team 4
12 Team .5 PPR SF TE Prem 1 PPR
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Purdy Cousins Watson Levis Fields
RB Bijan Gibbs Barkley Walker Kyren Brooks
WR Lamb Hill Kupp Dell Diontae McConkey E. Moore Mims Pierce
TE Hockenson Goedert
2 2025 1sts
4 2026 1sts
https://www.sundaysurefire.com/
Team 1
12 Team .5 PPR
Starters 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Hurts Love Cousins
RB CMC Stevenson Ekeler Mostert Spiller
WR Hill Puka Aiyuk Cooper
TE McBride
Team 2
12 Team PPR SF TE Prem
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Williams, A-Rich, Daniels
RB J. Wright Hull
WR Nabers Flowers C. Watson Burton Mingo
TE McBride Musgrave Mayer Fant
7 2025 1sts
5 2026 1sts
2 2027 1sts
Team 3
12 Team PPR SF
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Burrow Purdy Penix Howell
RB Taylor Hall Kyren Pollard Z. White Dowdle
WR Lamb Puka Deebo Dionte McConkey M. Williams Zay Jones
TE Njoku Fant Hill
Team 4
12 Team .5 PPR SF TE Prem 1 PPR
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE
QB Purdy Cousins Watson Levis Fields
RB Bijan Gibbs Barkley Walker Kyren Brooks
WR Lamb Hill Kupp Dell Diontae McConkey E. Moore Mims Pierce
TE Hockenson Goedert
2 2025 1sts
4 2026 1sts
Re: Admit defeat?
The pick would be 1.04 currently. The last playoff spot is tight, he could make it. So likely mid.pmart33 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:25 amWhere do you think those firsts will land?Lightzout wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:46 pm So pulled the trigger on the
Kelce for Bateman, Gesicki + 2022 1st (late) trade
I’ve floated a trade to the 6 seed, he said he’s interested
Give: Barkley + jRob
Receive: Dobbins + 22 1st + 23 1st
I’ve tried shopping both backs and really had little interest for any real value. This trade seems like my best shot at moving off for some upside.
Thoughts?
10 team. Non-PPR
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K
QB: Tua, Watson
RB: Barkley
WR: DJM, Pickens, Bateman, Pierce, Doubs, Metchie, Meyers
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Likely
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K
QB: Tua, Watson
RB: Barkley
WR: DJM, Pickens, Bateman, Pierce, Doubs, Metchie, Meyers
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Likely
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