Jalen Hurts: What's the verdict?

[FantasyFreak]

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Agree,

Hurts almost has a minny Tebow quality about him. He was a very good college QB even though Hurts struggled there to win a job and changed schools.

The NFL is big boy football.

He seems like a good guy and could develop but I have my doubts he will ever be elite at the NFL level.

if he's elite with his legs and give me many ff points just like lamar i will gladly take him hehe

lamar is not really good to throw a football but people still like him as a top dynasty asset in SF. i don't see why hurts can't do it the same way.

This is dynasty, though. Hurts may not be the QB long in Philly if he's only good with his legs. They have potentially 3 firsts next year (at worst 2 firsts and 2 seconds). If you're talking redraft, no worries, but Hurts needs to play well or he may be replaced as early as next year.

[DLF3000]

The idea that Lamar isn't good at throwing the football is like an old worn out wives tale that simply isn't true. I get people thinking that because he is a phenom running the rock BUT......

While he may be a bit unorthodox, his career passer rating is 102.6

To put that in perspective, we have 3 seasons of stats and that rating would be 4th ALL TIME in the NFL.

Interesting - guess it comes down to whether you think Hurts or even Lamar can take their passing game to the next level, like Allen.

Allen's ascent shocked me in all honesty (obv more than sold on him now!), so it could definitely happen for all three of these guys.

[Ice]

The idea that Lamar isn't good at throwing the football is like an old worn out wives tale that simply isn't true. I get people thinking that because he is a phenom running the rock BUT......

While he may be a bit unorthodox, his career passer rating is 102.6

To put that in perspective, we have 3 seasons of stats and that rating would be 4th ALL TIME in the NFL.

Interesting - guess it comes down to whether you think Hurts or even Lamar can take their passing game to the next level, like Allen.

Allen's ascent shocked me in all honesty (obv more than sold on him now!), so it could definitely happen for all three of these guys.

I was Allen's Bandwagon prior to the draft. I thought he had the tools be great. I don't think either of those have anywhere near the arm talent but then again Allen had the highest exit velocity on his throws coming out ever recorded with only minor mechanical flaws.

That view doesn't mean Lamar is bad by any measure. He reads defenses well and does throw a nice touch pass with a low turnover ratio when passing. Hurts struggles a bit with reading defenses IMO and I am not fan of his mechanics. I see Hurts as a higher end backup quality player with starter upside.

All three seem to have a ton of desire.

Lots of effective QB's out there with varying skill sets.

[ArrylT]

Hurts did not see any action in the pre-season did he? I cannot recall either way tbh.

[FantasyFreak]

Hurts did not see any action in the pre-season did he? I cannot recall either way tbh.

Yes, he did. Went 3/7 for 54 yards in limited action.

[ArrylT]

Hurts did not see any action in the pre-season did he? I cannot recall either way tbh.

Yes, he did. Went 3/7 for 54 yards in limited action.

Ah ok - enough to get his feet wet & shake off cobwebs/rust/whatnot but not enough to give us any real indication as how things are going to progress.

[mild]

Ah ok - enough to get his feet wet & shake off cobwebs/rust/whatnot but not enough to give us any real indication as how things are going to progress.

He looked better than that stat line imo. Have a look. By my count of that 3/7 - two egregious drops off his receivers hands, one barely-missed connection on the deep shot, and one throwaway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04fP9TObbmI

He was set to play in the 2nd Preseason game - and then was rushed to the hospital with a stomach infection about 5 minutes before kickoff. Bad luck. Starters were sat for the 3rd preseason game.

I still think you could do much much worse at QB in a SF or late-round QB strat. He's going to have some truly gaudy blowup weeks statistically.

[Prison_Mike]

Ah ok - enough to get his feet wet & shake off cobwebs/rust/whatnot but not enough to give us any real indication as how things are going to progress.

He looked better than that stat line imo. Have a look. By my count of that 3/7 - two egregious drops off his receivers hands, one barely-missed connection on the deep shot, and one throwaway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04fP9TObbmI

He was set to play in the 2nd Preseason game - and then was rushed to the hospital with a stomach infection about 5 minutes before kickoff. Bad luck. Starters were sat for the 3rd preseason game.

I still think you could do much much worse at QB in a SF or late-round QB strat. He's going to have some truly gaudy blowup weeks statistically.

Can’t wait. He’s a guy who feels impossible not to root for. From a dynasty perspective, I can’t gauge if he’s a long term starter - (and therefore whether he’s a buy or sell)

[DLF3000]

From a dynasty perspective, I can’t gauge if he’s a long term starter - (and therefore whether he’s a buy or sell)

Yeah something feels off there with Hurts and Philly - really curious to see how it plays out.

[mild]

He’s a guy who feels impossible not to root for. From a dynasty perspective, I can’t gauge if he’s a long term starter - (and therefore whether he’s a buy or sell)

Yeah something feels off there with Hurts and Philly - really curious to see how it plays out.

I think when the market has this much trepidation around a player it can be just as useful to hedge the bet the other way. For any contenders that haven't considered it yet, he's possibly worth a buy just as a single-season play in SF leagues. I've got him as my backup in my single QB redraft money league, and I love his upside for that. (I've also got him on my Dynasty SF team where I'll be hoping to sell in a high-price window if he pops)

It may not lead to wins on the board in the real NFL, but his tendencies (tucks and runs, but also likes to scramble to throw the deep shot) will lead to some really big fantasy days. There's a reasonable case to be made that he's going to be discount 2019 Lamar Jackson - someone you can get really cheap with insane upside - he doesn't have Lamar's quicks and jukes, but his skill group is arguably better.

I'm expecting him to get off to a pretty nutty start vs. Atlanta. For what it's worth, he's won the locker room according to the beat. As Mike said... with his story, and his great attitude through all the adversity - he is impossible not to root for.

[ArrylT]

Kudos to any and all that were locked in on Hurts having a QB1 week. Well done.

[Ice]

Kudos to any and all that were locked in on Hurts having a QB1 week. Well done.

As a Cowboy fan, I really hate how well he played. He played better than I thought he would for sure. Showed nice touch on several passes.

[CGW]

Kudos to any and all that were locked in on Hurts having a QB1 week. Well done.

I'd hope almost everyone expected a Qb1 fantasy performance against Atlanta.

That said, the coaching staff did an excellent job game planning easy throws in. He wasn't throwing bombs, but he completed 77% of his passes...which is a massive improvement. I still want to see this kind of improvement versus a professional football team first, but what a big step in the right direction.

[mild]

Kudos to any and all that were locked in on Hurts having a QB1 week. Well done.

Currently QB6 on the week, just barely eeking out Dak and Russell Wilson (with Lamar still to play, obviously) - it's a great start. We can't knock him for doing what he was supposed to do against Atlanta - good players *should* take advantage of great matchups.

Now it gets interesting, though: SF, @DAL, KC

To me, the bigger story is the weapons around him. Philly has low-key finally hit on some playmakers - it can't be overstated how good Devonta Smith looks out there; he was open practically every play. And the 1-2 punch from Goedart and Ertz is a wonderful safety blanket to have.

Colour me extremely intrigued. (Also one of my gambling high-points of the week - he rushed the OVER on 50 yards again - something he has done on every game he's finished thus far (4/4) plus he had 37 yards at the half in the WFT game where he was pulled - the floor is just so good with his rushing)

[dynastyninja]

I haven't watched much of the Eagles this year. I'm a huge fan of his mental makeup and character, but have been pretty skeptical that he'd be able to sustain long-term success in the NFL.

What are his chances of developing enough to be a successful franchise QB for Philly? Good news for running quarterbacks is their legs give them a little more time to develop their passing abilities.