2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS

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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS

Postby abloom » Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:39 am

MFundercover wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:55 pm Give: DK, Higgins Get: Tyreek, Pittman, 2022 2nd (late)

Give: DK, Higgins Get: Tyreek, 2023 1st (late)

Give: DK, Harris, 2022 1st (late) Get: Gibson, Mclaurin

Give: DK, Harris Get: Gibson, Pittman


And I found out I have a reputation in my league of overvaluing my players. So.e of these are worse than others, but all easy rejects imo.
First two are bad, seems like if you took Higgins out of each of them I'd be closer to accepting

3 and 4 are horrible. but then again I'm really low on Gibson relative to most.
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS

Postby MFundercover » Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:12 am

abloom wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:39 am
MFundercover wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:55 pm Give: DK, Higgins Get: Tyreek, Pittman, 2022 2nd (late)

Give: DK, Higgins Get: Tyreek, 2023 1st (late)

Give: DK, Harris, 2022 1st (late) Get: Gibson, Mclaurin

Give: DK, Harris Get: Gibson, Pittman


And I found out I have a reputation in my league of overvaluing my players. So.e of these are worse than others, but all easy rejects imo.
First two are bad, seems like if you took Higgins out of each of them I'd be closer to accepting

3 and 4 are horrible. but then again I'm really low on Gibson relative to most.
I'm with you on being low on Gibson. I told him he needed to bring Swift to the table if he wanted Metcalf and he kept pushing me Gibson.

Guess I'm a "tough sell" in my league, but these were all easy rejects.

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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS

Postby Prison_Mike » Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:34 am

I just left a 10tm league because I'm trying to decrease the number of leagues I'm in, I let my friend who's trying to get into more leagues take over my team.

I warned him about a few owners in the league who had a tendency to send bad offers (one in particular)

6 hours after joining the league, he was sent this by said owner:

Give: Allen Robinson
Get: Eric Ebron + Raheem Mostert + Tim Patrick + 2021 late 4th

EDIT: He got another one, literally from the other owner I warned him about

Give: Allen Robinson + 1.02
Get: Claypool + late 2022 1st + late 2022 2nd
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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS

Postby abloom » Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:41 am

MFundercover wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:12 am
abloom wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:39 am
MFundercover wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:55 pm Give: DK, Higgins Get: Tyreek, Pittman, 2022 2nd (late)

Give: DK, Higgins Get: Tyreek, 2023 1st (late)

Give: DK, Harris, 2022 1st (late) Get: Gibson, Mclaurin

Give: DK, Harris Get: Gibson, Pittman


And I found out I have a reputation in my league of overvaluing my players. So.e of these are worse than others, but all easy rejects imo.
First two are bad, seems like if you took Higgins out of each of them I'd be closer to accepting

3 and 4 are horrible. but then again I'm really low on Gibson relative to most.
I'm with you on being low on Gibson. I told him he needed to bring Swift to the table if he wanted Metcalf and he kept pushing me Gibson.

Guess I'm a "tough sell" in my league, but these were all easy rejects.
Swift makes way more sense to me than Gibson.
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS

Postby SteelLake » Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:04 am

Do these count: (SF)

Ekeler for Wilson
Ekeler for Hurts and 1.03
Mostert for Hurts
Dillon for Hurts

I guess none are horrid, but, I keep responding that I think I just value qb way more than him... and he just keeps ignoring and spamming offers
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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS

Postby CGW » Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:41 am

SteelLake wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:04 am Do these count: (SF)

Ekeler for Wilson
Ekeler for Hurts and 1.03
Mostert for Hurts
Dillon for Hurts

I guess none are horrid, but, I keep responding that I think I just value qb way more than him... and he just keeps ignoring and spamming offers
In 1QB they might not be horrible. In SF its not good.

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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS

Postby ravn88 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:25 am

Ive got another one

Sent: Dak + 1.01 + 1.03 (SF League)

Get: Watson

I get it that Watson is the bogger talent, but in Fantasy its far off
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup: 2020 third place

QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon

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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS

Postby smbkrypt24 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:16 am

12 team 1 QB league.

Give: Swift
Get: D. Watson, 2021 3rd
12 Team PPR Dynasty. Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 D, 21 roster spots.

2013 Startup
Team 1- 3rd in 2023
QB: Herbert, B. Purdy
RB: Bijan, Barkley, Akers, Dobbins
WR: T. Hill, Kupp, KA, JSN, T. Boyd, Mingo, Thomas, Toney
TE: Kelce, Andrews, Likely, Dulcic

2024: 1.01
2025: 1, 2, 2, 2

2019 Startup
Team 2- 4th in 2023
QB: Murray, Cousins, Wilson
RB: Bijan, JT, Kamara, Dobbins, Rodriguez
WR: Chase, G. Wilson, Di. Johnson, M. Wilson, W. Robinson, R. Rice
TE: McBride, Pitts, Kmet, Likely

2024: 1.01
2025: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 3

2021 Startup
Team 3- 11th in 2023
QB: Burrow, Cousins, Watson, Levis, Rodgers, Young
RB: Gibbs, Pacheco, Dobbins
WR: Chase, J. Jefferson, JSN, Palmer, Mooney, Tillman
TE: Schultz, Pitts, Likely, Okonkwo

2024: 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.04, 2.03, 3.03, 3.06, 3.08
2025: 1, 2, 3

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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:18 am

MFundercover wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:55 pm Give: DK, Higgins Get: Tyreek, Pittman, 2022 2nd (late)

Give: DK, Higgins Get: Tyreek, 2023 1st (late)

Give: DK, Harris, 2022 1st (late) Get: Gibson, Mclaurin

Give: DK, Harris Get: Gibson, Pittman


And I found out I have a reputation in my league of overvaluing my players. So.e of these are worse than others, but all easy rejects imo.
I feel like these are good starter offers that show some semblance of thought involved. He's valuing Tyreek close to DK (which some do), and giving you late-1st value for Higgins which is on the lower end (he'd be more mid-1st I suppose) but not unreasonable. For some reason I can't figure out who Harris is so hard to judge the other 2 trades but Gibson and McLaurin are hot names rn

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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:27 am

Every year we have to explain to somebody that a “starting offer” is just the first bad offer you send somebody.

There’s nothing wrong with sending bad offers. There’s no reason to pretend like a “starting offer” isn’t bad.
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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:53 am

I don't think it's bad though. Every offer you reject isn't bad. The person clearly showed some thought and showed he had a brain with the offers. I don't consider those to be bad offers, by which I mean bad enough to post them here to be ridiculed. The idea of this thread, or so I thought, are to post offers that are laughably idiotic... to provide entertainment for the others reading. If it's not on that level, then what is the point of posting it here.

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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:02 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:53 am I don't think it's bad though. Every offer you reject isn't bad. The person clearly showed some thought and showed he had a brain with the offers. I don't consider those to be bad offers, by which I mean bad enough to post them here to be ridiculed. The idea of this thread, or so I thought, are to post offers that are laughably idiotic... to provide entertainment for the others reading. If it's not on that level, then what is the point of posting it here.
Yeah it’s not as bad as some of the comically terrible offers. I think the policing of this thread for offers that “aren’t bad enough” is unproductive, unless you genuinely prefer the other side. I mostly think the idea of “starting offers” somehow being different from “bad offers” is an intellectually bankrupt concept used by people who don’t want to admit that they send bad offers. It’s a pet peeve of mine, I guess.

Also, pretty sure it’s Damien Harris, if that helps.
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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS

Postby FiremanEd » Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:09 am

OhCruelestRanter wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:02 am
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:53 am I don't think it's bad though. Every offer you reject isn't bad. The person clearly showed some thought and showed he had a brain with the offers. I don't consider those to be bad offers, by which I mean bad enough to post them here to be ridiculed. The idea of this thread, or so I thought, are to post offers that are laughably idiotic... to provide entertainment for the others reading. If it's not on that level, then what is the point of posting it here.
Yeah it’s not as bad as some of the comically terrible offers. I think the policing of this thread for offers that “aren’t bad enough” is unproductive, unless you genuinely prefer the other side. I mostly think the idea of “starting offers” somehow being different from “bad offers” is an intellectually bankrupt concept used by people who don’t want to admit that they send bad offers. It’s a pet peeve of mine, I guess.

Also, pretty sure it’s Damien Harris, if that helps.
Whats the difference between someone saying they think an offer is reasonable and someone laughing and agreeing an offer isn’t? Why get so up in arms about it every time? One persons bad offer can be stated that it wasn’t by another, and in that case, perhaps the dialogue is better than the rest of the thread itself, which is all just pointless garbage offers that don’t warrant the time or discussion anyway.

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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS

Postby murphysxm » Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:49 am

Well, we made it all the way to February before we had the same argument we have every year.....
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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:57 am

I just happened to think the offers were well constructed, giving a variety of options, and close enough to start a conversation. Some people would probably even accept some of those (never underestimate the thirst people have for rb's). I'd welcome those types of offers in all my leagues and fundamentally disagree with the people who are simply laughing them off. Yes, the small percentage of dynasty leaguers that post here think DK >> Gibson, but in most casual leagues Gibson and DK are probably looked at similarly and McLaurin is easily better than a late future 1st. And yet you have people here saying it's a "horrible" offer. Not much more I can say about it. Just my opinion.


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