Ha I don't even think I've had Foster's, still find it strange it was peddled over seas when no one here drinks it, my apathy is both a blessing and a curse. If you ever want to end a thread with me just asked me to show the numbers and I'll probably never get around to it.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:09 amThe "Foster's Memory", as some call it. "Australian for "I can't rememba". (You probably never saw the Foster's add campaign in Canada for Foster's) The "Foster's. Australian for beaaa" campaign, where they floated a bunch of Aussie stereotypes before that statement.AussieMate wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:14 amAs I said in another post this is all going off my questionable memory but I thought Juju had a mixed bag of good and terrible games without Brown, I remember it being talked about on this forum and there was a case for both the good and bad not just incredible good.
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Selling low on Godwin would be...a mistake.
Short-term drop in production, but not because he's regressing as a player. He's too good a route runner. I understand the Juju drop, but their roles despite playing next to another really good WR were very different.
Short-term drop in production, but not because he's regressing as a player. He's too good a route runner. I understand the Juju drop, but their roles despite playing next to another really good WR were very different.
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100% these are two very different players.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:43 pm Selling low on Godwin would be...a mistake.
Short-term drop in production, but not because he's regressing as a player. He's too good a route runner. I understand the Juju drop, but their roles despite playing next to another really good WR were very different.
Godwin has created separation throughout his career, Juju relied heavily on contested catches in single coverage. One of these WRs is more likely to deal with heavy defensive attention than the other.
However, both of them are seeing a volume decrease because their previously horrid defenses have both dramatically improved from their blowup seasons. This is the real reason both of them have disappointed, imo. Juju was doing fine when Diontae was pulling #1 coverage -- just not at an elite level because they weren't giving up 28 points a game.
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You are a smart guy, I agree 100%Dibbles wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:02 am Not sure there is a better buy low than Godwin, how quickly things can change. Was last year’s DK (for good reason), essentially hasnt mattered at all this season with Covid/injuries/new QB, not helping anyone at the moment, frustrating injuries for 6+ weeks, concerns over a 40 yr old QB who spreads it around, and now a suddenly crowded and complicated WR room with AB. Important to remember he is an absolute proven stud (regardless of QB) when healthy and given the opportunity. Not entirely sure the opportunity will be in Tampa going forward but 100% willing to buy his talent, get him on the cheap while you can, he was the overall PPR WR #2 last year at age 23. His situation can only get better from here.
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No offense, but this level of analysis isn’t particularly helpful in my opinion. Taking one player and copying and pasting his projected future value onto a different player simply because they happen to share a few similarities doesn’t say much of anything.
Team 1 (Rebuild ): 12-tm SF 0.5PPR/1.0PP1D
QB: Williams, Young, Tannehill
RB: Herbert, Akers, Gibson, Wilson, Abanikanda
WR: MHJ, Nabers, Flowers, Pickens, Dotson, Downs, Chark, Boyd, Douglas
TE: Knox
Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 4 ‘25 2s, ‘25 3
Team 2: 14-tm SF PPR/1.5TEP
QB: Burrow, Wilson, Lance
RB: JT, Mixon, Pollard, Laube, Guerendo, Hill, Patterson, Hines
WR: Hill, Cooper, DK, DJM, D. Samuel, Sutton
TE: Freiermuth, Gesicki, Hudson
Picks: ‘25 3rd, ‘25 4th
Team 3 10-tm SF PPR
QB: Mahomes, Dak, Watson, Jones
RB: JT, AK, Jacobs, Brooks, Benson, Zeke, Singletary
WR: AJB, Diggs, Allen, Cooper, Wilson, Kirk, Sutton, Williams, Bateman, E. Moore
TE: Goedert, Bowers, Schultz, Granson, Hill
QB: Williams, Young, Tannehill
RB: Herbert, Akers, Gibson, Wilson, Abanikanda
WR: MHJ, Nabers, Flowers, Pickens, Dotson, Downs, Chark, Boyd, Douglas
TE: Knox
Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 4 ‘25 2s, ‘25 3
Team 2: 14-tm SF PPR/1.5TEP
QB: Burrow, Wilson, Lance
RB: JT, Mixon, Pollard, Laube, Guerendo, Hill, Patterson, Hines
WR: Hill, Cooper, DK, DJM, D. Samuel, Sutton
TE: Freiermuth, Gesicki, Hudson
Picks: ‘25 3rd, ‘25 4th
Team 3 10-tm SF PPR
QB: Mahomes, Dak, Watson, Jones
RB: JT, AK, Jacobs, Brooks, Benson, Zeke, Singletary
WR: AJB, Diggs, Allen, Cooper, Wilson, Kirk, Sutton, Williams, Bateman, E. Moore
TE: Goedert, Bowers, Schultz, Granson, Hill
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After a nice break, I'm finally back and digging into 2021 analysis. Upon doing so, one thing stood out to me glaringly. Deandre Swift is THE sell high currently.
DLF March Startup ADP has him at 1.6 overall (rb6). I love the player, but he's on a historically bad franchise for RB opportunity. With Williams and Kerryon in the mix, I just don't see how he ever gets enough work to justify that cost.
DLF March Startup ADP has him at 1.6 overall (rb6). I love the player, but he's on a historically bad franchise for RB opportunity. With Williams and Kerryon in the mix, I just don't see how he ever gets enough work to justify that cost.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Nix
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Connor, Benson
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Woods
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Nix
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Connor, Benson
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Woods
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I agree. In my leagues the owners are holding out. I do think there will be another time to buy during the season as Denver will be getting back Sutton and I’m not convinced Lock is a viable starting QB. With the 1st three picks looking like QB, Denver may miss out on QB in the draft.
48 team, 4 copy league, QB, RB, WR, WR, TE, SF, 4 flex
QB - Wentz, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jones, Alex Smith
RB - Chubb, Hunt, Swift, Akers, Henderson, Mostert, Mack, Bowden, Hill
WR - AJ Brown, DJ Moore, Gabriel Davis, Slayton, Hamler, Isabella
TE - Fant, Burton, Firkser, Keene, Okuegbunam
2021 Draft - 1.09, 3rd
QB - Wentz, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jones, Alex Smith
RB - Chubb, Hunt, Swift, Akers, Henderson, Mostert, Mack, Bowden, Hill
WR - AJ Brown, DJ Moore, Gabriel Davis, Slayton, Hamler, Isabella
TE - Fant, Burton, Firkser, Keene, Okuegbunam
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I've tried in the leagues I don't own him and Jeudy owners are also holding out in my league as well. I haven't seen him discounted either.broncohead wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:20 pmI agree. In my leagues the owners are holding out. I do think there will be another time to buy during the season as Denver will be getting back Sutton and I’m not convinced Lock is a viable starting QB. With the 1st three picks looking like QB, Denver may miss out on QB in the draft.
Is Jeudy really being moved for a discount in a lot of leagues or is this just an idea that hasn't exactly manifested itself in reality?
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I'm wondering if it's based on recent ADP data. I haven't seen any trades in any of my leagues with him involved.jenkins.math wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:41 pmI've tried in the leagues I don't own him and Jeudy owners are also holding out in my league as well. I haven't seen him discounted either.broncohead wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:20 pmI agree. In my leagues the owners are holding out. I do think there will be another time to buy during the season as Denver will be getting back Sutton and I’m not convinced Lock is a viable starting QB. With the 1st three picks looking like QB, Denver may miss out on QB in the draft.
Is Jeudy really being moved for a discount in a lot of leagues or is this just an idea that hasn't exactly manifested itself in reality?
48 team, 4 copy league, QB, RB, WR, WR, TE, SF, 4 flex
QB - Wentz, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jones, Alex Smith
RB - Chubb, Hunt, Swift, Akers, Henderson, Mostert, Mack, Bowden, Hill
WR - AJ Brown, DJ Moore, Gabriel Davis, Slayton, Hamler, Isabella
TE - Fant, Burton, Firkser, Keene, Okuegbunam
2021 Draft - 1.09, 3rd
QB - Wentz, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jones, Alex Smith
RB - Chubb, Hunt, Swift, Akers, Henderson, Mostert, Mack, Bowden, Hill
WR - AJ Brown, DJ Moore, Gabriel Davis, Slayton, Hamler, Isabella
TE - Fant, Burton, Firkser, Keene, Okuegbunam
2021 Draft - 1.09, 3rd
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See any recent trades involving Swift? Just curious as I may consider moving him in one league if the price is right.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:48 am After a nice break, I'm finally back and digging into 2021 analysis. Upon doing so, one thing stood out to me glaringly. Deandre Swift is THE sell high currently.
DLF March Startup ADP has him at 1.6 overall (rb6). I love the player, but he's on a historically bad franchise for RB opportunity. With Williams and Kerryon in the mix, I just don't see how he ever gets enough work to justify that cost.
48 team, 4 copy league, QB, RB, WR, WR, TE, SF, 4 flex
QB - Wentz, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jones, Alex Smith
RB - Chubb, Hunt, Swift, Akers, Henderson, Mostert, Mack, Bowden, Hill
WR - AJ Brown, DJ Moore, Gabriel Davis, Slayton, Hamler, Isabella
TE - Fant, Burton, Firkser, Keene, Okuegbunam
2021 Draft - 1.09, 3rd
QB - Wentz, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jones, Alex Smith
RB - Chubb, Hunt, Swift, Akers, Henderson, Mostert, Mack, Bowden, Hill
WR - AJ Brown, DJ Moore, Gabriel Davis, Slayton, Hamler, Isabella
TE - Fant, Burton, Firkser, Keene, Okuegbunam
2021 Draft - 1.09, 3rd
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This just wasn’t a very good take. Jeudys perceived value is about the same it was last year at this point. A lot of people see Jeudy didn’t live up to expectations and think they can get a deal because of it but whoever has him in your league is probably still high on him. I’ve actually seen trades on dlf where he went for 2 1sts, and fewer trades than that where someone doesn’t get at least a 1st back in value.broncohead wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:55 pmI'm wondering if it's based on recent ADP data. I haven't seen any trades in any of my leagues with him involved.jenkins.math wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:41 pmI've tried in the leagues I don't own him and Jeudy owners are also holding out in my league as well. I haven't seen him discounted either.broncohead wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:20 pm
I agree. In my leagues the owners are holding out. I do think there will be another time to buy during the season as Denver will be getting back Sutton and I’m not convinced Lock is a viable starting QB. With the 1st three picks looking like QB, Denver may miss out on QB in the draft.
Is Jeudy really being moved for a discount in a lot of leagues or is this just an idea that hasn't exactly manifested itself in reality?
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I mean Kerryon is a literal zero and I don't give two shits about what Jahvid Best and Shawn Bryson did years and uears ago for Lions teams with players that have mostly been out of the league for years or see how it means Swift can't be good any more than Dorial Green Beckham and Justin Hunter busting means AJ Brown can't be goodbroncohead wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:57 pmSee any recent trades involving Swift? Just curious as I may consider moving him in one league if the price is right.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:48 am After a nice break, I'm finally back and digging into 2021 analysis. Upon doing so, one thing stood out to me glaringly. Deandre Swift is THE sell high currently.
DLF March Startup ADP has him at 1.6 overall (rb6). I love the player, but he's on a historically bad franchise for RB opportunity. With Williams and Kerryon in the mix, I just don't see how he ever gets enough work to justify that cost.
That said 1.6 is still a little high
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Buy Low: Baker Mayfield
He was a way better real life QB than fantasy one, gets a second year in the system and I don't see any way the Browns can run as much as they did last year for much longer
I think something like a QB 11 finish is coming next year and will boost his stock substantially
He was a way better real life QB than fantasy one, gets a second year in the system and I don't see any way the Browns can run as much as they did last year for much longer
I think something like a QB 11 finish is coming next year and will boost his stock substantially
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I think that would make his fantasy stock one of the most volatile I've seen for a QB. I tend to agree though. He's a good QB, prove-it contract year, and a Browns team that is finally coming around.StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:18 pm Buy Low: Baker Mayfield
He was a way better real life QB than fantasy one, gets a second year in the system and I don't see any way the Browns can run as much as they did last year for much longer
I think something like a QB 11 finish is coming next year and will boost his stock substantially
Loved rooting for him as a rookie even if it meant him giving Baltimore a hard time 2x a year for many years to come.
Back to Baker, I think I've always had him ranked higher than consensus. I could easily see his value back in QB1 range.
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