Price Difference between Matt Ryan and Jared Goff
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Price Difference between Matt Ryan and Jared Goff
Hey guys, this is for team 1 in sig. I'm trting to get younger and was wondering what the difference between Ryan and Goff is? Who should I package with Ryan to send a fair offer? Other team has Gronk, Witten, and Fells at TE and is a playoff contender IMO. I was thinking of sending Burton and Ryan for Goff. What do you guys think?
16 team Tiered PPR league, TE Premium, 52 man roster, 2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1W/R, 1TE/W, Full IDP
QB- Russ, Justin Herbert
RB- Antonio Gibson Ty Johnson, David Johnson Lat Murray
WR- Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, DJ Moore, Cordarelle Patterson,
TE- Hockeson, , Jonnu Smith, Firkser, Logan Thomas
QB- Russ, Justin Herbert
RB- Antonio Gibson Ty Johnson, David Johnson Lat Murray
WR- Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, DJ Moore, Cordarelle Patterson,
TE- Hockeson, , Jonnu Smith, Firkser, Logan Thomas
Re: Price Difference between Matt Ryan and Jared Goff
That's not close in my book. Goff is quite a bit higher than Ryan. That offer is an immediate decline with an eyeroll.
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Re: Price Difference between Matt Ryan and Jared Goff
Okay this is helpful, what if I included Ryan, Burton, and one of my 2019 1sts? I have 3 for next year as of right now
16 team Tiered PPR league, TE Premium, 52 man roster, 2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1W/R, 1TE/W, Full IDP
QB- Russ, Justin Herbert
RB- Antonio Gibson Ty Johnson, David Johnson Lat Murray
WR- Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, DJ Moore, Cordarelle Patterson,
TE- Hockeson, , Jonnu Smith, Firkser, Logan Thomas
QB- Russ, Justin Herbert
RB- Antonio Gibson Ty Johnson, David Johnson Lat Murray
WR- Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, DJ Moore, Cordarelle Patterson,
TE- Hockeson, , Jonnu Smith, Firkser, Logan Thomas
Re: Price Difference between Matt Ryan and Jared Goff
Unless you're really confident in your valuation of the two, I'm not sure now is a good time to sell Ryan for Goff. Just last season Ryan was QB1 and Goff was awful. Now this season Ryan predictably regressed and Goff looked much better, but with recency bias you're selling very low on Ryan and buying high on Goff.
That could still work out, obviously, if Ryan keeps getting worse and Goff turns into a stud. But generally I think Ryan is a hold right now.
That could still work out, obviously, if Ryan keeps getting worse and Goff turns into a stud. But generally I think Ryan is a hold right now.
Re: Price Difference between Matt Ryan and Jared Goff
I would actually agree with this assessment. I'm not sure I would be selling Ryan right now. In 2 recent auctions he went really cheap, like 1/2 the price of Goff. I'm not sure he is actually 1/2 as valuable, esp not from a ppg standpoint. I think it would take ryan + 1st to get goff and I'm not sure I'd pay that price right now. I think Ryan still has a lot of decent football left.jeffster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:52 am Unless you're really confident in your valuation of the two, I'm not sure now is a good time to sell Ryan for Goff. Just last season Ryan was QB1 and Goff was awful. Now this season Ryan predictably regressed and Goff looked much better, but with recency bias you're selling very low on Ryan and buying high on Goff.
That could still work out, obviously, if Ryan keeps getting worse and Goff turns into a stud. But generally I think Ryan is a hold right now.
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Re: Price Difference between Matt Ryan and Jared Goff
I hold at the moment, ryan should bounce back a bit and goff could easily regress this upcoming season
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Re: Price Difference between Matt Ryan and Jared Goff
I am going to pile on here. I think Ryan's 2016 season was a bit of an anomaly for him, but he has been a consistent QB2 in the SFLEX/2QB format. More than likely if you own him you are playing him every week. Granted Goff had a very good season last year and looks like the real deal he is far from achieving what Ryan has done for 10+ years, and he probably has another 5+ left.
It seems that Goff's value is through the roof as he was an afterthought last year and now he, I believe is a top 8 dynasty startup QB.
I think in my opinion that he and Ryan will end up with similar careers, but one guys value is way down and one is way up when in reality they are much closer together.
All in all, I think you would be using trying to buy a guy who may be at his peak (value wise, Goff) with a guy who may be near his bottom (Ryan)
It seems that Goff's value is through the roof as he was an afterthought last year and now he, I believe is a top 8 dynasty startup QB.
I think in my opinion that he and Ryan will end up with similar careers, but one guys value is way down and one is way up when in reality they are much closer together.
All in all, I think you would be using trying to buy a guy who may be at his peak (value wise, Goff) with a guy who may be near his bottom (Ryan)
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QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
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CB: TWhite/King
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TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
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RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06
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Re: Price Difference between Matt Ryan and Jared Goff
couldn't agree more.jeffster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:52 am Unless you're really confident in your valuation of the two, I'm not sure now is a good time to sell Ryan for Goff. Just last season Ryan was QB1 and Goff was awful. Now this season Ryan predictably regressed and Goff looked much better, but with recency bias you're selling very low on Ryan and buying high on Goff.
That could still work out, obviously, if Ryan keeps getting worse and Goff turns into a stud. But generally I think Ryan is a hold right now.
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1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
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Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
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qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
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Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
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Re: Price Difference between Matt Ryan and Jared Goff
Thanks for everyonrs responses i think im going to hold for now and buy low on another qb during the season
16 team Tiered PPR league, TE Premium, 52 man roster, 2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1W/R, 1TE/W, Full IDP
QB- Russ, Justin Herbert
RB- Antonio Gibson Ty Johnson, David Johnson Lat Murray
WR- Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, DJ Moore, Cordarelle Patterson,
TE- Hockeson, , Jonnu Smith, Firkser, Logan Thomas
QB- Russ, Justin Herbert
RB- Antonio Gibson Ty Johnson, David Johnson Lat Murray
WR- Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, DJ Moore, Cordarelle Patterson,
TE- Hockeson, , Jonnu Smith, Firkser, Logan Thomas
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Re: Price Difference between Matt Ryan and Jared Goff
Thanks for everyonrs responses i think im going to hold for now and buy low on another qb during the season
16 team Tiered PPR league, TE Premium, 52 man roster, 2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1W/R, 1TE/W, Full IDP
QB- Russ, Justin Herbert
RB- Antonio Gibson Ty Johnson, David Johnson Lat Murray
WR- Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, DJ Moore, Cordarelle Patterson,
TE- Hockeson, , Jonnu Smith, Firkser, Logan Thomas
QB- Russ, Justin Herbert
RB- Antonio Gibson Ty Johnson, David Johnson Lat Murray
WR- Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, DJ Moore, Cordarelle Patterson,
TE- Hockeson, , Jonnu Smith, Firkser, Logan Thomas
Re: Price Difference between Matt Ryan and Jared Goff
Not only should you hold Ryan, but you should be looking into adding a 3rd starting QB instead of swapping one for another. In a 16 team 2QB league, having a 3rd starting QB is almost a must and there is no other position that would come close to being as valuable.
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Re: Price Difference between Matt Ryan and Jared Goff
I'd wait to see how Goff does without the attention that Sammy drew last year in coverage. For the most part, Woods was left in 1 on 1 coverage, same as Kupp. Now, Woods is clearly the teams WR1 and he does not have the dominant physical presence that just breaks through defenders. A lot of Goff's success was tied to a lot of single coverage WR's not-named Watkins, and the eliteness of the run game. I like the guy, just feel he may be overpriced atm.
Team 1
Superflex, 1.0 point PPR
QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant
2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06
Team 2
Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI
QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott
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QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant
2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06
Team 2
Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI
QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott
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