J.Love for 1.01
J.Love for 1.01
Heey.
I'm about to land J.Love in a trade, and was wondering.
Who would you like in dynasty SF 14 teams.
Caleb Williams or J.Love.
The owner of 1.01 said he would think about it.
I'm about to land J.Love in a trade, and was wondering.
Who would you like in dynasty SF 14 teams.
Caleb Williams or J.Love.
The owner of 1.01 said he would think about it.
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers
QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle
Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ 2020 third place
QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns
Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K
QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon
QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle
Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ 2020 third place
QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns
Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K
QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon
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Re: J.Love for 1.01
Caleb by a descent margin.
Re: J.Love for 1.01
Caleb
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-Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 2 Flex
QB: Anthony Richardson, Sam Darnold, Drake Maye, Bo Nix and Penix.
RB: Bucky Irving, Will Shipley, Deuce Vaughn, CPatt, Justice Hill and McBride
WR: Justin Jefferson, ARSB, Olave, Nico Collins, Malik Nabers, Tyquan Thornton, Marvin Mims, DeMario Douglas, Calvin Austin, DJ Chark,
TE: McBride, Dulcich, Woods, Hudson and Schoonmaker
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-2 26 1sts, 2 26 2nds, 1 26 3rd, and1 26 4th
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-Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 2 Flex
QB: Anthony Richardson, Sam Darnold, Drake Maye, Bo Nix and Penix.
RB: Bucky Irving, Will Shipley, Deuce Vaughn, CPatt, Justice Hill and McBride
WR: Justin Jefferson, ARSB, Olave, Nico Collins, Malik Nabers, Tyquan Thornton, Marvin Mims, DeMario Douglas, Calvin Austin, DJ Chark,
TE: McBride, Dulcich, Woods, Hudson and Schoonmaker
Draft Picks
-3 25 1sts, 2 25 2nd, 3 25 3rds and 3 25 4ths
-2 26 1sts, 2 26 2nds, 1 26 3rd, and1 26 4th
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Re: J.Love for 1.01
I get the Caleb hype. I really do. And I'm a Love truther. I really am.
From week 10 on, Love was anywhere from QB2-QB5 depening on scoring systems, etc. Even if we all agree that Caleb has a higher ceiling, how much higher is the ceiling than what Love showed the back half of 2023? I know the arguments: we can't predict a career from half a season. And I fully agree. But neither can we predict a career for a player who has yet to play any NFL snap.
I love what Chicago did in the off-season to surround Caleb with talent and put him in a position to succeed. And we have *no* idea if the players and coaching staff and Caleb himself will succeed. We've seen it work for the Packers and Love.
If Caleb were to play from week 10 on in 2024 the way that Love played in week 10 on in 2023, we'd be doing ecstatic backflips. And it's quite reasonable that Williams (and/or the Bears) simply won't be that good.
I'm not sure why we'd give up the production and talent we have in Love for Williams who's range of outcomes doesn't really include a much higher ceiling and does include a much lower floor and/or simply a greater probability of simply not being as productive as Love.
From week 10 on, Love was anywhere from QB2-QB5 depening on scoring systems, etc. Even if we all agree that Caleb has a higher ceiling, how much higher is the ceiling than what Love showed the back half of 2023? I know the arguments: we can't predict a career from half a season. And I fully agree. But neither can we predict a career for a player who has yet to play any NFL snap.
I love what Chicago did in the off-season to surround Caleb with talent and put him in a position to succeed. And we have *no* idea if the players and coaching staff and Caleb himself will succeed. We've seen it work for the Packers and Love.
If Caleb were to play from week 10 on in 2024 the way that Love played in week 10 on in 2023, we'd be doing ecstatic backflips. And it's quite reasonable that Williams (and/or the Bears) simply won't be that good.
I'm not sure why we'd give up the production and talent we have in Love for Williams who's range of outcomes doesn't really include a much higher ceiling and does include a much lower floor and/or simply a greater probability of simply not being as productive as Love.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Brooks ('27), Wright ('27), Guerendo ('26), Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), Nabers ('28), Worthy ('28), Polk ('28), Franklin ('28), E Moore ('25), M Thomas ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $201
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): Sinnott ('28), All ('28), Schrader ('26), A Reed ('28)
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Brooks ('27), Wright ('27), Guerendo ('26), Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), Nabers ('28), Worthy ('28), Polk ('28), Franklin ('28), E Moore ('25), M Thomas ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $201
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): Sinnott ('28), All ('28), Schrader ('26), A Reed ('28)
Re: J.Love for 1.01
tough one. Love has the known floor... CW higher ceiling... go with the ceiling.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Re: J.Love for 1.01
Four years younger. Better contract situation. Better surrounding talent. More commitment from current administration.moishetreats wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:26 am I'm not sure why we'd give up the production and talent we have in Love for Williams who's range of outcomes doesn't really include a much higher ceiling and does include a much lower floor and/or simply a greater probability of simply not being as productive as Love.
Basically, it's all the same reasons that I'd prefer Jordan Love to, say, Dak Prescott, who had an even better finish (QB1-QB3 from week 10 on) to last season.
2021 Startup
Superflex – PPR - TE Premium (1.5 PPR) – 12 Team
1 QB, 3 WR, 2 RB, 1 TE, 1 SF, 1 Flex
QB: J Allen, J Fields, D Jones, W Levis, S Darnold
RB: B Hall, K Walker, T Etienne, R Johnson, D Foreman, J McLaughlin, E Demercado
WR: ARSB, G Wilson, DK Metcalf, B Aiyuk, T Higgins, C Godwin, J Williams, R Bateman
TE: K Pitts, D Goedert, L Musgrave
2024: 1.03, 2.03, 3.11
2025: 1-3-4-4-5
Superflex – PPR - TE Premium (1.5 PPR) – 12 Team
1 QB, 3 WR, 2 RB, 1 TE, 1 SF, 1 Flex
QB: J Allen, J Fields, D Jones, W Levis, S Darnold
RB: B Hall, K Walker, T Etienne, R Johnson, D Foreman, J McLaughlin, E Demercado
WR: ARSB, G Wilson, DK Metcalf, B Aiyuk, T Higgins, C Godwin, J Williams, R Bateman
TE: K Pitts, D Goedert, L Musgrave
2024: 1.03, 2.03, 3.11
2025: 1-3-4-4-5
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Re: J.Love for 1.01
Fair offer. I'm on Love, because I've seen it, and I like the organizational stability more.
I also would push back a little bit on the idea Caleb has a higher ceiling. I am not so sure about that. What Love did as a year 1 starter, and the throws he made, shows a pretty high ceiling.
I also would push back a little bit on the idea Caleb has a higher ceiling. I am not so sure about that. What Love did as a year 1 starter, and the throws he made, shows a pretty high ceiling.
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Re: J.Love for 1.01
I would take a shot on Caleb, but IMO, Love value is ~ 1.02.
I'd probably rather have Love than QB2 in this draft class.
I'd probably rather have Love than QB2 in this draft class.
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Re: J.Love for 1.01
Caleb
10 Team, PPR, 27 roster: 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Jordan Love
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Kyren Williams, Devon Achane, Derrick Henry, Jaylen Warren
WR: CeeDee Lamb, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Drake London, Tee Higgins, Marquise Brown
TE: George Kittle, Pat Freiermuth
Picks:
2024: 1.05, 2.10, 4th, 5th
2025: 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th
2026: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Jordan Love
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Kyren Williams, Devon Achane, Derrick Henry, Jaylen Warren
WR: CeeDee Lamb, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Drake London, Tee Higgins, Marquise Brown
TE: George Kittle, Pat Freiermuth
Picks:
2024: 1.05, 2.10, 4th, 5th
2025: 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th
2026: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
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Re: J.Love for 1.01
I think it might depend. If you're a championship contender this year, I can see Love. Otherwise, the youth of Caleb has the edge for me.
Team 1 - 10-Team SF Full PPR - QB/2RB/2WR/TE/SF/3FLEX
QB - Jackson/Prescott/Levis/Brissett/Fields/Lance
RB - Bijan/Breece/Stevenson/Foreman/DJackson
WR - Chase/AJBrown/Wilson/Nucua/DJohnson/Chark/EMoore/DRobinson
TE - LaPorta/McBride/Fant/Hill
TAXI - Hull/Shaheed/Perry/Thornton/Scott/Iosivas/CJones/Dulcich/JWoods/DAllen
2024 - 1.08, 2.02, 3.04, 4.01
2025 - 1, 2, 3, 4, 4
2026 - 1, 2, 3, 4
Team 2 - 12-Team SF Full PPR - TE .5 Prem - QB/RB/2WR/SF/4FLEX
QB - Jackson/Goff/Murray/Brissett
RB - KWilliams/Swift/AJones/Stevenson/Dowdle
WR - Chase/Waddle/Metcalf/Higgins/Nabers/Chandler
TE - Andrews/JJohnson/Bowers
TAXI - Hooker/Rattler/RJohnson/RDavis/Iosivas/McMillan/JWoods
IR -
2025 - 1,2,2,3,3,4
2026 - 2,3,4
QB - Jackson/Prescott/Levis/Brissett/Fields/Lance
RB - Bijan/Breece/Stevenson/Foreman/DJackson
WR - Chase/AJBrown/Wilson/Nucua/DJohnson/Chark/EMoore/DRobinson
TE - LaPorta/McBride/Fant/Hill
TAXI - Hull/Shaheed/Perry/Thornton/Scott/Iosivas/CJones/Dulcich/JWoods/DAllen
2024 - 1.08, 2.02, 3.04, 4.01
2025 - 1, 2, 3, 4, 4
2026 - 1, 2, 3, 4
Team 2 - 12-Team SF Full PPR - TE .5 Prem - QB/RB/2WR/SF/4FLEX
QB - Jackson/Goff/Murray/Brissett
RB - KWilliams/Swift/AJones/Stevenson/Dowdle
WR - Chase/Waddle/Metcalf/Higgins/Nabers/Chandler
TE - Andrews/JJohnson/Bowers
TAXI - Hooker/Rattler/RJohnson/RDavis/Iosivas/McMillan/JWoods
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2025 - 1,2,2,3,3,4
2026 - 2,3,4
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Re: J.Love for 1.01
I'm surprised people would even be on the "probably" side. After seeing T Law's class, and how hit and miss QB's are, I'd for sure take Love over Daniels, Maye etc etc.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 12:27 pm I would take a shot on Caleb, but IMO, Love value is ~ 1.02.
I'd probably rather have Love than QB2 in this draft class.
I'd honestly want a first on top of 1.02, right or wrong, to consider moving Love for 1.02. A bird in the hand.
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Re: J.Love for 1.01
If I was contending, I'd take Love as the safer play. But let's be real, at 1.01 you probably aren't talking about contending teams, so I can absolutely see the appeal of taking the younger better talent, which is Williams.
Re: J.Love for 1.01
I don't think there is a wrong answer here. Love gives you a better known asset. Caleb is an unknown. The biggest advantage that Caleb has is his own contract situation. Bears will be able to put better assets around him over the next 3-4 years and he already is tied to Odunze for the next 5.
I would go with Caleb personally because I think even if he has a bad season he'll still have decent value. I'm not sure I can say the same about love.
I would go with Caleb personally because I think even if he has a bad season he'll still have decent value. I'm not sure I can say the same about love.
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
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Tm 5
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Tm 6
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12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
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Tm 5
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