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Javonte Williams

Postby nicktahoes » Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:30 am

Just looking to see what the "commoners" as opposed to the "experts" think of Javonte Williams.

What do you guys think he will do?

What would be his value if trading for a pick or two?

Just overall thoughts.

Thanks ahead of time.
Team 1: Players of note
PPR--QB, RBx2, WRx3, TE, Superflex, Flex x2
QBs: Lawrence, Stafford, Bunch of backups
RBs: Ekeler, Kamara, Achane, Dillon, Kelley, Moss, Javonte Williams,Jamaal Williams
WRs: Adams, Hopkins, Waddle, Kirk, JSN, Boyd, OBJ, Hyatt, Osborn
TEs: Kelce, Hockenson, Taysom,


and then a few minor players and rookie stashed on taxi

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Re: Javonte Williams

Postby Mtt33 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:37 am

Love him vs what I’ve seen as his ranked value that I’ve seen but haven’t found that people are actually selling for that. Depends on what you can get him for.

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Re: Javonte Williams

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:45 am

this is dlf not reddit sir. commoners aint finding their way here haha.

think his current value is around a pair of 2nds. i send henry for javonte and a 3rd last season (idk if that helps at all but its a trade with him)
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Javonte Williams

Postby Prison_Mike » Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:17 am

I'm a Javonte manager in multiple spots, and probably wouldn't sell unless I'm getting a mid/late 1st (1.09 range), and since I know that's unlikely, he's a hold for me. I could maybe be convinced to take a pair of 2nds as Ross mentioned, depending on where they fall

I like his skill set. Didn't expect much from 2023 considering the injury. I'd hate to hold him and then undersell before what is hopefully a big year.
Team 1:
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, Lloyd, R.Davis, Vidal, Tracy
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Olave, Diggs, Diontae, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Bowers, Woods

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert, Zamir, Irving
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Nico, Kupp, Kirk, Hollywood, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods

Team 3:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, Wicks, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods

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Re: Javonte Williams

Postby Sinatra's Liver » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:23 am

I'm hoping for a rebound from injury year. Last November, I got him for Miles Sanders and a second, which turned out to be 2.07.
10 Team, PPR, 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1K, 4 IDPs - Best Ball
QB: Lawrence, Watson, Richardson, Carr
RB: Barkley, KW3, JavWilliams, Pollard, Dillon, Charb, Abanikanda, Rodriguez
WR: Lamb, AJBrown, Dotson, JSN, M Evans, Watson, JPalmer
TE: Andrews, Goedert, Kmet
K: Butker, Hopkins, Aubrey
DE: Gary, J Phillips, Rousseau, Wilkins
LB: Wagner, DevWhite, Roquan, E Jones, Nakobe, DevLloyd, CHarris, Dennis
DB: Derwin J, Brisker, Pitre, Hamilton

Picks: #4, #7, #11, #13, #17

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Re: Javonte Williams

Postby Prison_Mike » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:27 am

Sinatra's Liver wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:23 am I'm hoping for a rebound from injury year. Last November, I got him for Miles Sanders and a second, which turned out to be 2.07.
Nice, that Miles Sanders cliff was steep.

Around that same time, I gave up two 1sts and a 3rd for Javonte+Pitts+Hollywood.
Picks turned out to be 1.09/1.12, pretty happy with that outcome at the moment.

I think the buy window is still open on Javonte. Buying RBs ahead of the draft is risky, but this RB class + the many needs of DEN should diminish that risk a bit

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Re: Javonte Williams

Postby BabyChark23 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:32 am

I traded for him recently. Deal was:

Give: 2.03, 2.05

Receive: Javonte, 25 2nd

I felt like it was a slight overpay, but I needed an RB and figured he was as good a bet as any prospect I’d be looking at at 2.03.

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Re: Javonte Williams

Postby Kurtrambis1 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:39 pm

A pair of seconds or a late 1st would get me intrigued enough to sell.

He seems to be forgotten after he returned quickly from a major injury. I believe it was the same extent as Dobbins, compared to a “clean” ACL tear like Breece’s.

I acquired him in a package and I’m optimistic he can do better than last year, though Payton’s history to spread carries around to RBs does have me worried.
12 Team PPR League, 25 Man Rosters, 2 Taxi Squad
Start QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FLEX, FLEX

QB- Murray, Lawrence, Mayfield
RB- Montgomery, Javonte Williams, Najee Harris, Jamaal Williams, Carter, Joshua Kelly, Trayveon Williams, Eli Mitchell
WR- J. Jefferson, Tyreek, D. Smith, Tank Dell, Curtis Samuel, Hollywood Brown, Renfrow, Rashee Rice
TE- Pitts, Ferguson, Higbee

Taxi-Kraft

Picks
24=1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
25= 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Javonte Williams

Postby TheTroll » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:12 pm

BabyChark23 wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:32 am I traded for him recently. Deal was:

Give: 2.03, 2.05

Receive: Javonte, 25 2nd

I felt like it was a slight overpay, but I needed an RB and figured he was as good a bet as any prospect I’d be looking at at 2.03.
Good deal for you especially needing a RB
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Javonte Williams

Postby Anteaters » Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:00 am

nicktahoes wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:30 am Just looking to see what the "commoners" as opposed to the "experts" think of Javonte Williams.

What do you guys think he will do?

What would be his value if trading for a pick or two?

Just overall thoughts.
I have him on team 1 in my sig. A few weeks ago I posted a question about him in the main Javonte thread.

Basically, in that 1qb keeper league, if I release Javonte I will get the equivalent of a late 1st in the draft (rookie+FA). At one point, I thought that pick might land me the 4th-6th rookie. Now, I'm guessing that releasing Javonte will land me the 7th-9th rookie.

In a 1qb draft with no TEP, I have to compare the merits of Javonte versus the 6th rookie WR or 3rd rookie RB. Considering my depth at WR, I don't have interest in that caliber of rookie WR. Bowers is a non-starter for me in this league with a "1st round" pick.

In my situation, I have to decide do I value Javonte more/less than a late 2024 1st. For my roster, I have decided, at this moment, I value Javonte > late 1st. For a contender, I'm definitely holding JW over a 2nd. For a rebuilder I'm probably holding over a 2nd for now, but would sell for a 2nd early in the season if that was the best offer I could get.

Best case scenario: Being two years removed from surgery, JW is fully healthy and impresses the coaches. JW goes into week 1 as the undisputed lead RB and is given 20+ touches per game. JW averages 100+total yards per game and scores 14 TDs on the season.

Worst case scenario: The coaching staff becomes enamored with the smurfRB McLaughlin and puts him on the field for an overabundance of plays. This cuts into JW's opportunity. JW averages 50total yards per game and scores 4 TDs on the season.

For now, I'm leaning (maybe more like hoping) Denver uses JW as envisioned in my best case scenario. I don't think that's unreasonable, but from outside the coaches' room looking in, I don't really know what they're thinking/planning.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser

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Re: Javonte Williams

Postby tstafford » Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:12 am

SF - late first IMO. My bet is once players land in the draft, we will have eight or nine guys I'd for sure want over him. Putting him in the mix around the 1.10 or so. I wouldn't be surprised if the RB1 from this class (whoever that turns out to be) will be equally or more valuable than Javonte in a month. Someone is going to get the capital and landing spot to get us fired up.


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