Tanking in ur dynasty league?

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Tanking in ur dynasty league?

Postby Horn1 » Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:03 pm

Bush league? Or legit draft strategy?

I'm 1-7 thanks to injuries & bad fantasy luck.

Our league has no rules against tanking & no mention of tanking has ever been brought up.

Bush league? Or tank away?
12 man league...12 Dynasty Keepers per year
10 Round Draft: Rookies + Redraft + IDP

Half PPR, Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1TE, 2 Flex
1 K, 4 IDP

QB: Herbert

RB: Bijon R, Javonte W, D Swift, K Miller,

WR: Waddle, Ridley, Diontae J
, Pickens, Jeudy, K Shakir,

TE: None

IDP (start 4): Oluokun,

'24 Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 3.05, 4.04, 4.05, 5.02, 5.05, 5.10, 6.05, 7.05 (10 Round Draft)

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Re: Tanking in ur dynasty league?

Postby Trevormortis » Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:10 pm

I don't really care if the league has specifics or not about tanking... Always start both a full line up and your best line up. You don't have to pick up good defenses or kickers every week (your're not actually trying to win), but you need to start a full line up every week.

If you don't do this, it can affect other teams chances to make (or miss) the playoffs, and that can cause serious league issues. Other than that caveat, anything else is fair game.

For a rebuild, I like to get rid of all players that don't help my rebuild. This alone will weaken your team and allow you to "tank" in a proper way.
Team 1. 12 team. 1 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2017 2nd, 2018 2nd, 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2022 1st
QB - Watson, G. Smith
RB - Henry, Ekeler, Kamara, D. Pierce, AJ Dillon, J. McLaughlin, Gainwell
WR - J. Jefferson, Diggs, AJ Brown, T. Higgins, M. Thomas, Cooks, Bateman, R. Moore, C. Tillman, J. Hyatt, D. Parker
TE - Kelce, J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,2,3,4,5
2025 - 1,2,3,4,5

Team 2. 12 team. .5 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2023 Full rebuild mode
QB - Tua
RB - T. Spears, Z. Charbonnet, C. Hubbard, R. Rivers, D. Vaughn, J. Kelly, Chubb (IR)
WR - London, J. Downs, R. Rice, Burks, J. Jeudy, A. Pierce, C. Tillman, R. Bell, D. Parker, D. Slayton, Cooks
TE - J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,1,1,2,2,2
2025 - 1,1,2,2,5

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Re: Tanking in ur dynasty league?

Postby Dr.Graffin » Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:44 pm

Horn1 wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:03 pm Bush league? Or legit draft strategy?

I'm 1-7 thanks to injuries & bad fantasy luck.

Our league has no rules against tanking & no mention of tanking has ever been brought up.

Bush league? Or tank away?
You shouldn't tank in the sense if you have decent starting options, but you choose not to play them. That is destructive to a league. But natural tanking I'm okay with. If you blow it up, send out all your assets for picks or developmental players, you aren't left with much for this year, it's not your fault if you're left with Sony Michel and McKissic as your starting RBs...
12 Team Non-PPR, 6pt TDs-22' R/U, 23' R/U
1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 1TE, 2Flex (W/R/T), 1K, 1DST
QB: P. Mahomes, T. Tagovailoa
RB: D. Swift, D. Henry, J. Mixon, A. Ekeler, M. Sanders
WR: T. Hill, D. J. Moore, D. Samuel, D. Smith, T. Higgins, D. Hopkins, D. Wicks, J. Metchie, C. Claypool
TE: T. Kelce, C. Kmet, H. Henry, M. Gesicki, T. Kraft
K: J. Tucker
D/ST: Baltimore, Jacksonville
Taxi Squad: R. Ali, F. Gore Jr., J. Cowing, C. Johnson

12 Team .5 PPR, 6pt TDs
1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 1TE, 3Flex (W/R/T), 1K, 1DST
QB: J. Love, J. Herbert
RB: S. Barkley, I. Pacheco, D. Singletary, D. Pierce, E. Gray
WR: A. J. Brown, C. Olave, J. Waddle, D. J. Moore, T. Higgins, C. Watson, J. Downs, J. Dotson, R. Shaheed, A. T. Perry
TE: T. McBride, H. Henry, M. Gesicki, C. Okonkwo
K: T. Bass
D/ST: Jacksonville, Indianapolis
Taxi Squad: R. Pearsall, B. Corum, D. Laube

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Re: Tanking in ur dynasty league?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:37 pm

I think rebuilding is fine as long as you can start a legit lineup. The lineup needs to be your best possible lineup weekly and should be within reason in my opinion. If you are in a start 2 RB format, I don't think you should roll out two fourth string RBs but if that is your best lineup and you have tore your build down to rock gut, it's still your best lineup. I would try to move as many pieces as possible in a rebuild but still keep a legit lineup at the same time within reason. Kind of a fine line/unspoken rule depending on league. Very league dependent on an answer here. Start your best possible lineup every week. That does not have to be protection based but you know what that means overall.

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Re: Tanking in ur dynasty league?

Postby trying_2B_good » Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:54 pm

I'll pile on and say set your best lineup to avoid setting a precedent in your league. Mine is going through this now (teams purposefully setting terrible lineups) and its really making the game unfun.
12 team PPR, 1 QB, IDP;
Start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, FLEX, K, DL, LB, DB
2018-2020: consistent ending around 7-9 in standings
2021: 1st in points, playoff runner up
2022: 2nd worst team

QB: Daniel Jones, Purdy

RB: Najee, Jonathan Taylor, Singletary, Jalen Warren, Gibbs

WR: Adams, Pittman, McLaurin, Higgins, Aiyuk, others

TE: Kmet, Henry, Ertz, Ferguson

K: Gay

DL: Nick Bosa
LB: Roquan Smith
DB: Mathieu

Taxi: Hassan Haskins, Keontay Ingram, Boutee

Notable picks: 1 2024 first; 3 2025 1st and 2 2nd; 2026 first and second

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Re: Tanking in ur dynasty league?

Postby saw061600 » Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:55 pm

Set best lineup but trade away all the vets you can. Usually results in a tank (although a team not in my sig has managed 4 and 4 so far but got to set the lineup best you can).
10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph

12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Daniels
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Keenan Kirk ZJones RMoore
Hock Kittle
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson

1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
Kelce Pitts Deguara
Hutchinson Rousseau Greenard Travon Demarcus
QWilliams EJones TBernard Dean ShaqT Kyzir
Amos Bates Peppers Murray Fitz Clark

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Re: Tanking in ur dynasty league?

Postby Shortie » Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:24 pm

Like others have said: Let’s define tanking…

1. If you’re rebuilding you want the worst record, you’re 100% allowed to blow up your team to get it. Trade away all of your good players leaving you garbage to start? Sure. Totally fine and that owner is gonna have to live with that team’s shallowness for years potentially.

2. Sitting Waddle for DJ Chark? No… thats bad and against the rules.

3. The gray area is waivers: I traded all my QBs but Carson Wentz is in the free agent pool? Not a fan of being *forced* to pick him up and waive a player I want to keep but make sure the rules are clear there on “start the best lineup” means, and you don’t have that problem.
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Re: Tanking in ur dynasty league?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:26 pm

trying_2B_good wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:54 pm I'll pile on and say set your best lineup to avoid setting a precedent in your league. Mine is going through this now (teams purposefully setting terrible lineups) and its really making the game unfun.
Not good for any league, that could really crush a league. Sorry to hear.

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Re: Tanking in ur dynasty league?

Postby WOATjohn » Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:27 pm

To prevent any tanking in the two leagues I commission, I use POSSIBLE POINTS to determine picks 1-6. It rewards the truly bad teams
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
2.10, 3.01, 3.09, 4.05

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
Full go year
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, McLaughlin, D Foreman, Gray
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, McCaffrey, Bateman, N Brown, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
1.01, 1.07, 1.08, 2.01, 3.01, 3.07, 3.08, 4.01, 4.02, 4.11, 5.01, 5.05, 5.10

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Re: Tanking in ur dynasty league?

Postby Shortie » Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:29 pm

brutuswins wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:27 pm To prevent any tanking in the two leagues I commission, I use POSSIBLE POINTS to determine picks 1-6. It rewards the truly bad teams
Yeah potential points is the great equalizer. Not as much fun as making the 1.01 in play for some bad luck teams but no one ever tanking again.

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Re: Tanking in ur dynasty league?

Postby WOATjohn » Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:30 pm

Shortie wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:29 pm
brutuswins wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:27 pm To prevent any tanking in the two leagues I commission, I use POSSIBLE POINTS to determine picks 1-6. It rewards the truly bad teams
Yeah potential points is the great equalizer. Not as much fun as making the 1.01 in play for some bad luck teams but no one ever tanking again.
I’m tanking in a league that uses possible points and I just trade for injured players and my QBs are Winston, Mayfield and Zappe. Looking at the 1.01 right now lol
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
2.10, 3.01, 3.09, 4.05

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
Full go year
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, McLaughlin, D Foreman, Gray
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, McCaffrey, Bateman, N Brown, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
1.01, 1.07, 1.08, 2.01, 3.01, 3.07, 3.08, 4.01, 4.02, 4.11, 5.01, 5.05, 5.10

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Re: Tanking in ur dynasty league?

Postby Shortie » Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:34 pm

I’m tanking in a league that uses possible points and I just trade for injured players and my QBs are Winston, Mayfield and Zappe. Looking at the 1.01 right now lol
Yes.. and therefore you have the worst team. The point more here are those that do not have bad players and still sit their good players to improve position.

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Re: Tanking in ur dynasty league?

Postby WOATjohn » Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:37 pm

Shortie wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:34 pm
I’m tanking in a league that uses possible points and I just trade for injured players and my QBs are Winston, Mayfield and Zappe. Looking at the 1.01 right now lol
Yes.. and therefore you have the worst team. The point more here are those that do not have bad players and still sit their good players to improve position.
Most definitely. The leagues I commission I wouldn’t allow blatant tanking, but it’s in the bylaws and I was PP. but if someone was still tanking, they’d be talked to.
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
2.10, 3.01, 3.09, 4.05

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
Full go year
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, McLaughlin, D Foreman, Gray
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, McCaffrey, Bateman, N Brown, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
1.01, 1.07, 1.08, 2.01, 3.01, 3.07, 3.08, 4.01, 4.02, 4.11, 5.01, 5.05, 5.10

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Re: Tanking in ur dynasty league?

Postby Pix » Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:51 pm

We had no real tanking problems in my main league but still we decided to set draft order (for non-playoff teams) based on potential points.
It eliminates all suspicion of tanking while still allowing "punting" (ethical tanking). The worst teams gets the best picks, end of.
It's the way to go, get the discussion started.

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Re: Tanking in ur dynasty league?

Postby MacDaddy123 » Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:58 pm

Tanking is unsportsmanlike, though I know that it is done.

Max PF hopefully will change all of that eventually. Most of my dynasty leagues switched to Max PF this year, and it is an effective deterrent to tanking. Max PF counts your teams best players at each position for the week's output, like Best Ball.
It doesn't matter if the player is in your lineup, on your bench, on IR, or on Taxi, it takes the 10-12 best position players score for that week.

So anyone trying to bench their better players, it doesn't matter. If they score more points on the bench, it still counts towards your Max PF for the week.


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