How does your dynasty league determine draft order?

Postby **2Pitts4Par** » Thu Oct 13, 2022 11:45 am

If you do a lottery, how many teams are in lottery and what are odds of each getting 1st pick?

Postby **oneson9192** » Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:37 pm

12 team league. 6 teams make the playoff, the other 6 are in the lottery. Odds of getting the 1st pick by team:

12th: 6/21
11th: 5/21
10th: 4/21
9th: 3/21
8th: 2/21
7th: 1/21

Postby **Pac_Eddy** » Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:40 pm

Potential points for non playoff teams, playoff finish for playoff teams.

sebennayx · Postby **sebennayx** » Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:41 pm

Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:40 pm Potential points for non playoff teams, playoff finish for playoff teams.

All my leagues are this way as well.

gpaok · Postby **gpaok** » Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:39 pm

We do reverse final order, although that could lead to some last game tanking. Our top 4 + 2 next highest points scored make the playoff with 1/2 on BYE for the first game.

Postby **KCLep20** » Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:34 am

Top 6 is by finish in playoff bracket.

Bottom 6 play in a losers bracket with the winner earning the 1.01. From there, the remaining 5 are seated based on record and then points.

This ensures tanking can only earn you the 1.02 and gives people and incentive to keep playing thru the end of season.

Postby **frerichs5** » Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:39 am

KCLep20 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:34 am Top 6 is by finish in playoff bracket.

Bottom 6 play in a losers bracket with the winner earning the 1.01. From there, the remaining 5 are seated based on record and then points.

This ensures tanking can only earn you the 1.02 and gives people and incentive to keep playing thru the end of season.

Or a solid team that doesn’t think they can win it all tanks to miss the playoffs. Then proceeds to win out for. The #1 pick. 1.01 is too valuable for a consolation bracket in my opinion. Should be going to the legitimate worst team in the league.

Coobelz · Postby **Coobelz** » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:59 am

Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:40 pm Potential points for non playoff teams, playoff finish for playoff teams.

Same here and I strongly endorse it. Completely solved our tanking issues.

hoos89 · Postby **hoos89** » Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:25 am

sebennayx wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:41 pm
Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:40 pm Potential points for non playoff teams, playoff finish for playoff teams.
All my leagues are this way as well.

Same, except one league I'm in started doing potential points for all teams that finish out of the money, which I think is pretty good too as otherwise there actually can be tanking by middling teams that pushes a pretty bad team into the playoffs.

Giving 1.01 to the consolation bracket winner is insane. Makes it extremely difficult for the truly bad teams to ever become competitive, and risks awarding an elite asset to a solid team (not to mention the incentive for middling teams to tank so they can get 1.01). I also think lottery is silly. I understand the logic about wanting to disincentivize tanking, but potential points largely solves that without adding in the risk of giving 1.01 to a fairly strong team.

Postby **Prison_Mike** » Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:10 pm

frerichs5 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:39 am
KCLep20 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:34 am Top 6 is by finish in playoff bracket.

Bottom 6 play in a losers bracket with the winner earning the 1.01. From there, the remaining 5 are seated based on record and then points.

This ensures tanking can only earn you the 1.02 and gives people and incentive to keep playing thru the end of season.
Or a solid team that doesn’t think they can win it all tanks to miss the playoffs. Then proceeds to win out for. The #1 pick. 1.01 is too valuable for a consolation bracket in my opinion. Should be going to the legitimate worst team in the league.

x2

Potential points prevents from tanking. This just allows a good team with bad luck to end up with Bijan

BabyChark23 · Postby **BabyChark23** » Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:55 pm

frerichs5 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:39 am
KCLep20 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:34 am Top 6 is by finish in playoff bracket.

Bottom 6 play in a losers bracket with the winner earning the 1.01. From there, the remaining 5 are seated based on record and then points.

This ensures tanking can only earn you the 1.02 and gives people and incentive to keep playing thru the end of season.
Or a solid team that doesn’t think they can win it all tanks to miss the playoffs. Then proceeds to win out for. The #1 pick. 1.01 is too valuable for a consolation bracket in my opinion. Should be going to the legitimate worst team in the league.

Yeah, my main league uses this loser bracket system and it’s awful. The team that got 1.01 this past year (first league year) because of some bad luck where he barely missed playoffs is now undefeated this year. Meanwhile, the worst team in the league is trying to rebuild and got the 1.04 last year and looks like he is headed toward the 1.05 or 1.06 this year. A borderline playoff team will end up with Stroud/Young. Terrible, terrible system. Potential points is the way to go.

BlackOmega · Postby **BlackOmega** » Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:03 pm

Same way the NFL does, playoff teams ranked by performance in playoffs and non playoff teams ranked by record in regular season. If there are concerns about tanking then you need to remove some owners and play with adults who want to win on their merits and not by questionable methods.

Postby **Hahaclintondix** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:09 am

Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:40 pm Potential points for non playoff teams, playoff finish for playoff teams.

We do this plus a lottery for non playoff teams.

25/60, 18/60, 8/60, 5/60, 3/60, 1/60

Postby **thebadferret** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:06 am

Exactly the same as the NFL, but instead of strength of schedule, direct comparison (and then points scored) are the tie breaker.

We only have the toilet bowl to determine the next years b1tch.

Postby **mild** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:35 am

Potential Points is the best, and it's really not close. It means that tanking via submitting intentionally bad lineups has no bearing on the draft order. So there's no incentive to playing badly if you're intent is to rebuild: you just strip your roster down to the studs instead.

Further to that: the teams that really are the worst most often win the top picks. It solves the big problems in a game where tanking is clearly incentivised.

The only slight change we make is that the Winner always gets the 1.12. So the grand final decides picks 1.11/1/12 and that's it. All the rest are decided by Potential Points.

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