Tony Romo discussion

[Shawn]

I think most of us would agree that Romo can be a quality big producing QB for our fantasy teams more often than not, but there are questions surrounding Romo and his real-life QB impact for Dallas now. Seems like way too much inconsistency coming from Romo, and often times we are seeing Romo mistakes and turnovers ultimately costing the Cowboys. In addition to Romo mistakes, we often see Romo yelling and getting heated with other members of the Dallas offense, it doesn't seem like Romo takes as much responsibility for things as he should. So what do we think of Romo's future at this point??? Is he the quarterback that will ultimately lead Dallas to big playoff wins? or do we ultimately think that he isn't the answer and will never be?? Either way it seems Romo always finds himself in the spotlight for good and bad reasons. Thoughts?????

[MikeCross]

IM SO UPSET. I've said it a million times. With the way that team is built, we dont need some "wanna-be gunslinger" letting it ripp into double and triple coverage. The guy is an avg undrafted quarter back surrounded by some of the most explosive weapons in the game. It is great he made up for what he lacks in talent and field savvy, with hard work and more hard work. But hes been loosing games all by himself for years now. Im surprised Ware hasnt organized a soap in pillowcase beating of his private pile bleep. Its got to make Rob Ryan and every defensive player cringe everytime they call a pass play.

Steven McGee would win more games with that team than romo would. Its stupid. McGee has shown he can manage the game, romo has not. When has a QB gotten a longer leash in the NFL? How many games does he have to throw away? Makes me sick, I might stop watching the Cowboys games until romo is benched, cos its ruining my Sundays. Just pisses me off to no end.

[blacksheep]

Tony Romo is an average QB, IMO. He must have some compromising pics of Jerry Jones You often hear the term "game manager" to describe QBs that only facilitate their offense...call a play, hand off, make the safe under throw, etc. That may be an underestimate of Romo's importance to Dallas but that is what I think when I watch Romo play. He doesn't seem to be able to elevate the Cowboys to a perennial contender despite all the talented offensive weapons that Jone's has brought in. Romo just doesn't seem to have "It" to be great QB.

[RobertBobson]

you guys are far too hard on him. The guy puts up elite qb numbers. Some of that stuff is just unlucky. Those pick 6's weren't his fault. Well, I mean the picks were, but he got VERY unlucky for them to zig-zag their way through field for the td.. it wasn't some terrible sideline route jump int or something. People weren't saying he didn't have "it" when he was playing with a punctured lung and strapping the team on his back and coming from behind to win. Yes, romo does make mistakes, yes he is inconsistent. But when he's "Good Tony" he is an excellent qb, one that can bring his team from behind, one that can win games. I really don't see how he's much different than farve, and it puzzles me how protected farve was by the media and fans for so many years, and how brutalized romo gets by them, when they are basically the same player.

[Steelersfan]

Romo is QB1 for fantasy purposes, but will continue to be a poor NFL QB until his decision making improves.

[Shawn]

you guys are far too hard on him. The guy puts up elite qb numbers. Some of that stuff is just unlucky. Those pick 6's weren't his fault. Well, I mean the picks were, but he got VERY unlucky for them to zig-zag their way through field for the td.. it wasn't some terrible sideline route jump int or something. People weren't saying he didn't have "it" when he was playing with a punctured lung and strapping the team on his back and coming from behind to win. Yes, romo does make mistakes, yes he is inconsistent. But when he's "Good Tony" he is an excellent qb, one that can bring his team from behind, one that can win games. I really don't see how he's much different than farve, and it puzzles me how protected farve was by the media and fans for so many years, and how brutalized romo gets by them, when they are basically the same player.

I definitely agree with you on the media overprotection of Favre, I think Romo is a classic case of a quarterback on a high profile team who will always be getting the media attention good or bad. Romo also needs to come through at some point in a playoff situation to really gain bigtime respect in the media's eyes.

[blacksheep]

Good point, Robert on the comparision with Favre. And I think that goes along with Mike's thought on Romo being a "gun-slinger" or wanting to be. And yes Favre seemed to have gotten a pass on his decisions to force passes while Romo gets hammered for it. Romo did impress me with his punctured lung game, that was gutsy and courageous, but then he relapsed into the Tony we seem to expect in last Sunday's game. He just needs to consistently put the team on his back and elevate his play.

[RobertBobson]

The more I think about it, the more I think the criticism of romo this week is unfair. The traditional knock on him is he isn't clutch and tries to gun sling and make things happen and melts down or w/e. But that's not what happened this week. When he threw the first int, it could not possibly be considered a high pressure situation that Romo choked it. The cowboys were up by like 24 I believe. IT wasn't a particularly bad Int either, it was a very common one that many Qb's make every week. He just got unlucky because no one on the cowboys can tackle, and carpenter ran a crazy zig zagging ball back down the field. The next interception romo threw was basically like the first, and the cowboys still had a 17 point lead at that point, not at all a high pressure situation, and again, Houston got really lucky that he was able to return a crazy INT for a touchdown. It would be very unlikely that one of those int's would be returned for a pick, based on where it was thrown and how many cowboys were around, and that two such int's would be returned.... well, it's really, really unlikely. So Romo threw a couple picks. So what? Qb's do that all the time.


One radio show I listen to, the dan lebatard show, the producer of the show calls Romo "Mud". Not that he sucks.. but that he's just naturally unlucky. Like a cooler at a casino, who's table always looses when he comes to the black jack table, romo is a cooler of an NFL quarterback, that his teams lose in unlikely ways just because he's jinxed. I think that's funny, and I don't believe in jinxes or that someone can be unlucky ( I think you can be unlucky, but that you were unlucky in the past, I think that has no relation on you being unlucky in the future) but I think that's the funniest explaination to Romo so far, and if you are one to believe in fate and luck and curses, I think you'd be forced to believe Romo is cursed at this point. As a stubborn atheistic cub fan, I'd love for Romo to prove people wrong.

[bigcsr67]

The media has over hyped tony, and under sold him his entire career. He is good player, but he cant do it all himself. You can have all the talent in the world surrounding you, but football is a dynamic team sport that requires multiple leaders at all facets of the team, not just QB. Who else is a leader n Dallas? Is there chemistry? These are all major intangibles championship caliber teams have, and the Cowboys dont have it, not just tony. QBs get too much credit, and recieve too much blame...Its a TEAM sport!

[Shawn]

The more I think about it, the more I think the criticism of romo this week is unfair. The traditional knock on him is he isn't clutch and tries to gun sling and make things happen and melts down or w/e. But that's not what happened this week. When he threw the first int, it could not possibly be considered a high pressure situation that Romo choked it. The cowboys were up by like 24 I believe. IT wasn't a particularly bad Int either, it was a very common one that many Qb's make every week. He just got unlucky because no one on the cowboys can tackle, and carpenter ran a crazy zig zagging ball back down the field. The next interception romo threw was basically like the first, and the cowboys still had a 17 point lead at that point, not at all a high pressure situation, and again, Houston got really lucky that he was able to return a crazy INT for a touchdown. It would be very unlikely that one of those int's would be returned for a pick, based on where it was thrown and how many cowboys were around, and that two such int's would be returned.... well, it's really, really unlikely. So Romo threw a couple picks. So what? Qb's do that all the time.


One radio show I listen to, the dan lebatard show, the producer of the show calls Romo "Mud". Not that he sucks.. but that he's just naturally unlucky. Like a cooler at a casino, who's table always looses when he comes to the black jack table, romo is a cooler of an NFL quarterback, that his teams lose in unlikely ways just because he's jinxed. I think that's funny, and I don't believe in jinxes or that someone can be unlucky ( I think you can be unlucky, but that you were unlucky in the past, I think that has no relation on you being unlucky in the future) but I think that's the funniest explaination to Romo so far, and if you are one to believe in fate and luck and curses, I think you'd be forced to believe Romo is cursed at this point. As a stubborn atheistic cub fan, I'd love for Romo to prove people wrong.

Overall, maybe he needs a change of scenery perhaps he can thrive on a different team in the future, I'm sure a lot of NFL teams would take him as their starting QB over what they have now. Perhaps the Garrett play calling is also to blame, as a more conservative game plan with a big lead may have been the answer to secure a Cowboys win.

(Also, please share your thoughts as a Cub fan on the Bartman ball and documentary, on our baseball/DLF dugout forum, as we have a thread about that there, thanks)

[skip]

Just my opinion, but I believe FAR too many decisions are being made by ownership in that organization - most significantly with personnel. As such there is an expectation (and possibly even a formal directive) to get players involved in games. I will also agree with an earlier sentiment regarding whether or not the team is a cohesive unit. Romo may have his failings but it seems like that has been a clubhouse full of individual egos for a long time now. Even the most talented players can be a hinderance when they have the "me first" mentality.

[MikeCross]

Just my opinion, but I believe FAR too many decisions are being made by ownership in that organization - most significantly with personnel. As such there is an expectation (and possibly even a formal directive) to get players involved in games. I will also agree with an earlier sentiment regarding whether or not the team is a cohesive unit. Romo may have his failings but it seems like that has been a clubhouse full of individual egos for a long time now. Even the most talented players can be a hinderance when they have the "me first" mentality.

Garrett is on record as having full control over personel this offseason along with Rob Ryan. Hence the real problem, we have an offensive head coach, and what appears to be a defensive head coach. Dont know how true that is, but it is widely talked about down here on local radio.

[skip]

Just my opinion, but I believe FAR too many decisions are being made by ownership in that organization - most significantly with personnel. As such there is an expectation (and possibly even a formal directive) to get players involved in games. I will also agree with an earlier sentiment regarding whether or not the team is a cohesive unit. Romo may have his failings but it seems like that has been a clubhouse full of individual egos for a long time now. Even the most talented players can be a hinderance when they have the "me first" mentality.

Garrett is on record as having full control over personel this offseason along with Rob Ryan. Hence the real problem, we have an offensive head coach, and what appears to be a defensive head coach. Dont know how true that is, but it is widely talked about down here on local radio.

Call me a skeptic. Jerry Jones wouldn't let Bill Parcels have that kind of control and he was the best coach that team ever saw since Tom Landry left.

[MikeCross]

Just my opinion, but I believe FAR too many decisions are being made by ownership in that organization - most significantly with personnel. As such there is an expectation (and possibly even a formal directive) to get players involved in games. I will also agree with an earlier sentiment regarding whether or not the team is a cohesive unit. Romo may have his failings but it seems like that has been a clubhouse full of individual egos for a long time now. Even the most talented players can be a hinderance when they have the "me first" mentality.

Garrett is on record as having full control over personel this offseason along with Rob Ryan. Hence the real problem, we have an offensive head coach, and what appears to be a defensive head coach. Dont know how true that is, but it is widely talked about down here on local radio.

Call me a skeptic. Jerry Jones wouldn't let Bill Parcels have that kind of control and he was the best coach that team ever saw since Tom Landry left.

Wow skip, Parcells.....? Jimmy Johnson was the best coach we've ever had, period.

[RobertBobson]

Did you see the personnel decisions Parcells made in Miami? Jones SHOULDN'T have turned those decisions over to BP.