Dak+ or Wentz++ (Superflex)

[Paul Crewe]

10-team PPR Superflex; 30-man roster + 2 IR
QB WR WR WR RB RB TE W/R/T Q/W/R/T K DEF

My Roster
QB: *PLAYER*, M.Ryan -or- D.Brees, *PLAYER*
WR: M.Thomas, J.Jones, O.Beckham -or- J.Landry, D.Johnson, B.Perriman, T.Smith, A.Tate, S.Sims Jr., A.Isabella, J.Arcega-Whiteside
RB: S.Barkley, Dv.Johnson -or- Dm.Williams, *PLAYER*, B.Scott, J.Richard, D.Washington, P.Barber, T.Homer
TE: T.Kelce, *PLAYER*, C.Herndon IV, D.Walker

The trade is even in terms of positions and total numbers. Which guys would you rather plug into the above?

[Gator Sens]

Wentz side for me, but I think Jones II is going to be pretty solid for the next few years.

[StripesOfKC]

Rather have the Dak side, but I am quite low on Waller and Rojo and skeptical that the Eagles have solved their receiving corps problems

[steelerspride]

Id rather have dak, but the rest are useless IMHO. Mattison is gold IF cook goes down.......

Waller isnt gonna replicate but has value, ROJO is still bruce's guy as of now........, minshew>brissett.

[Paul Crewe]

Wentz side for me, but I think Jones II is going to be pretty solid for the next few years.

I updated my sig so I obviously went Dak side, but Jones II was the biggest holdup for me. With all the weapons in the TB offense, I think he'll produce for as long as Bradymania lasts.

I parlayed that hesitation into a swap of 2nds to get some value back, but he's the one guy that could make this deal look really bad.

[Paul Crewe]

Rather have the Dak side, but I am quite low on Waller and Rojo and skeptical that the Eagles have solved their receiving corps problems

I still like Waller but believe his numbers will regress and perhaps significantly. Perfect storm last year with a lack of receivers following AB's quick exit. His numbers took a noticeable dip as Renfrow's targets increased. He's also older than your normal "breakout" guy.

Agree with you on Wentz and PHI. Should be better, more deep ball targets at least, but we'll see. Wentz playing 16 games is a 50% proposition through his first four years vs. 100% for Dak. Availability is an important "skill."

[Adam_172]

Dak side for me.

[MyTeam]

I'd take the Wentz side. I have Dak slightly above Wentz but other piece in that trade favors the Wentz side besides the pick.
Wentz=<Dak
Waller>>Knox - Even if he cannot repeat last year he is still a lot better than Knox and I am higher on Knox than most
Rojo>Mattison - Mattison is getting some value because of the holdout news but I definitely would rather sell him at his price than buy.
Minshew>>Brissett
2.10<2.5

[abloom]

in a 10 team SF i'd rather have wentz side

[FantasyFoosball]

Wentz side for me. Minshew puts it over the top.

[Paul Crewe]

Appreciate the input, everyone. The vote has definitely taken a turn for the Wentz side and understandably so as there would seem to be more value there in a vacuum. Without question, there are far more usable pieces on that side.

I drafted Wentz and will always be a fan, but our league just switched to Superflex last year. With Ryan starting to age out, Brees near retirement and Minshew's chances of becoming a long-term NFL starter still cloudy at best, I was uncomfortable with Wentz (and his injury history) in my QB1 slot. Unavailability in 2 of his first 4 fantasy playoffs may have overly influenced me there.

So I set out to acquire a top 5 QB. My main competition owns Mahomes *and* Lamar and was unsurprisingly not interested. The Deshaun owner was virtually non-responsive. The Kyler owner just used the 1.1 on him last year and would have wanted a ransom with the Nuk trade only upping KM's levels of unobtainium.

So it came down to Dak and only because that guy also happens to own Russ but has/had big deficiencies at a few positions (namely TE) and no real QB depth behind those guys, I was able to pry him free without giving away any of my starters (aside from swapping Wentz). I'll almost always do a depth-for-starter upgrade deal so long as I'm not giving away the farm.

If it turns out to be an overpay, I'm good with that. Kind of comes with the territory when you set out to obtain an elite player. The other owner is a great guy who's been on the wrong side of some bad trades over the years, including a few with me. If this deal turns out to be a total albatross for my team, that will suck. But if it happens, I couldn't have picked a better person to be the beneficiary.

[Goddard]

Wentz = Dak (they're close enough that differing opinions on the two shouldn't make a difference)
Waller >> Knox
Jones >= Mattison
Minshew > Brissett (this makes a huge difference in a SF league)
2.10 < 2.10 - but at this point, who care...not even close to making up the difference.

[Paul Crewe]

Wentz = Dak (they're close enough that differing opinions on the two shouldn't make a difference)

Wentz and Dak aren't equal. C'mon, man. The gap may not be big when both are healthy, but there's a gap. Wentz has also had two seasons end early out of four while Dak is 16/16 every year and just came off his best year.

You can't make the case that Minshew>>Brissett is "huge" because of Superflex and then call the #4 and #9 dynasty QBs "equal." The whole debate is whether the other pieces cover the gap.

[Goddard]

Wentz = Dak (they're close enough that differing opinions on the two shouldn't make a difference)

Wentz and Dak aren't equal. C'mon, man. The gap may not be big when both are healthy, but there's a gap. Wentz has also had two seasons end early out of four while Dak is 16/16 every year and just came off his best year.

You can't make the case that Minshew>>Brissett is "huge" because of Superflex and then call the #4 and #9 dynasty QBs "equal." The whole debate is whether the other pieces cover the gap.

So I can't say that a starting QB over a backup QB is huge, but the gap between #4 and #9 is huge? OK

[FantasyFreak]

Wentz = Dak (they're close enough that differing opinions on the two shouldn't make a difference)

Wentz and Dak aren't equal. C'mon, man. The gap may not be big when both are healthy, but there's a gap. Wentz has also had two seasons end early out of four while Dak is 16/16 every year and just came off his best year.

You can't make the case that Minshew>>Brissett is "huge" because of Superflex and then call the #4 and #9 dynasty QBs "equal." The whole debate is whether the other pieces cover the gap.

I think Wentz is the better player, Dak just has better weapons. Wentz has shown he can play at a high level with little around him, and Dak has proved the opposite. Dak needs everything to be right to succeed. I have Dak and Wentz basically even for those reasons. I don't care about DLF's rankings. I don't agree with a ton of their ranks.