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Dez Bryant for 2.03 and 2.07?
Coming off a championship victory, is it worth it to trade Dez for 2.03 and 2.07? I still think he has a few solid seasons left but I also wouldn't mind adding some youth to my squad. Team 2 in sig.
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Re: Dez Bryant for 2.03 and 2.07?
I think if you look at this as a strictly value perspective this would equate out to a first round pick. Based on what we have seen from Dez the past 2 seasons I would feel good to get first round value from him if offered. I would probably pull the trigger on this deal. I'm not a big fan of Dez Bryant he is hit or miss every game and mostly miss. Don't feel safe starting him at all.
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Re: Dez Bryant for 2.03 and 2.07?
Value sounds about right. I don't think I could stomach paying 2.03 for him because I think he showed us he was shot two seasons ago.
But I would shoot for an alternative if possible. If you own a late 1st, try to package Dez with that pick to move up. Strike now if you can...maybe package Dez/1.12 to try and move up to like 1.06-1.07. But I would gladly take that offer if you couldn't swing using him to trade up.
But I would shoot for an alternative if possible. If you own a late 1st, try to package Dez with that pick to move up. Strike now if you can...maybe package Dez/1.12 to try and move up to like 1.06-1.07. But I would gladly take that offer if you couldn't swing using him to trade up.
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Re: Dez Bryant for 2.03 and 2.07?
Well said...I was able to trade him last off-season on the two teams I owned him. One was for Alshon/2019 1st and the other was for Alshon/2018 devy.Motay316 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:32 pm I think if you look at this as a strictly value perspective this would equate out to a first round pick. Based on what we have seen from Dez the past 2 seasons I would feel good to get first round value from him if offered. I would probably pull the trigger on this deal. I'm not a big fan of Dez Bryant he is hit or miss every game and mostly miss. Don't feel safe starting him at all.
But I have drafted him on a few redraft teams over the past two years an it has ended badly every time. Never once made the playoffs. Dude is washed up, but still has name value.........for now!!
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Re: Dez Bryant for 2.03 and 2.07?
Hold Dez
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Re: Dez Bryant for 2.03 and 2.07?
Why? What has he shown over the past 3 seasons to be worth more than this?
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Re: Dez Bryant for 2.03 and 2.07?
If you don't think you'll need him to compete again next year, it's not a bad idea to try and move him. I doubt you can get anything better than that right now and his value will only get worse if he doesn't produce next year. I still think he's a hold, but that's not terrible value right now.
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Re: Dez Bryant for 2.03 and 2.07?
Because when I watch him play I still see a very talented and dominant WR who's being horribly misused. There are times when it seems he's lost some edge this year, but I think that comes with the mental territory when an offense starts imploding.flyersfan1981 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:38 pm
Why? What has he shown over the past 3 seasons to be worth more than this?
He's 28, 29? That's not that old. WRs who deliver multiple years of Megatron-level production don't just "get bad" at 29 years old. If Dez seriously has "gotten bad", and doesn't bounce back, he will be quite a rare anomaly.
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Re: Dez Bryant for 2.03 and 2.07?
I agree with Lukky.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:43 pmBecause when I watch him play I still see a very talented and dominant WR who's being horribly misused. There are times when it seems he's lost some edge this year, but I think that comes with the mental territory when an offense starts imploding.flyersfan1981 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:38 pm
Why? What has he shown over the past 3 seasons to be worth more than this?
He's 28, 29? That's not that old. WRs who deliver multiple years of Megatron-level production don't just "get bad" at 29 years old. If Dez seriously has "gotten bad", and doesn't bounce back, he will be quite a rare anomaly.
Yeah he's been pretty terrible, but this year Dak struggled so there's some hope that it's not all Dez's fault. Two second round picks just isn't enough for me to sell someone that could easily bounce back and have a huge season. I would just hold him and hope for the best. It's not like losing out on 2 second round picks is going to haunt you the rest of your life if Dez does sucks it up again
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Re: Dez Bryant for 2.03 and 2.07?
Well 2.03 and 2.07 in my league last year was Alvin Kamara and Cooper Kupp, so it might. Obviously not necessarily likely to get something out of the picks, but Dez is just as much a dart throw at this point.thomasscheeks wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:56 pm It's not like losing out on 2 second round picks is going to haunt you the rest of your life if Dez does sucks it up again
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Re: Dez Bryant for 2.03 and 2.07?
Ok, while I strongly disagree with the talent level at this point of his career, let's just say I agree with you.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:43 pmBecause when I watch him play I still see a very talented and dominant WR who's being horribly misused. There are times when it seems he's lost some edge this year, but I think that comes with the mental territory when an offense starts imploding.flyersfan1981 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:38 pm
Why? What has he shown over the past 3 seasons to be worth more than this?
He's 28, 29? That's not that old. WRs who deliver multiple years of Megatron-level production don't just "get bad" at 29 years old. If Dez seriously has "gotten bad", and doesn't bounce back, he will be quite a rare anomaly.
If he is being misused, how is that going to change? Dak still looks scared. Garrett is still going to be the coach? And Zeke will play a full season next year, let alone a high likelihood that they draft a WR in the first 2-3 rounds, if not the first round.
If he leaves Dallas somehow, how likely is it that he can (or wants to learn) a new system to be successful?
And he is also turning 30 during next season, with a lot of injuries, especially back problems. Unless you only need him as a depth WR, you shouldn't own him because if you need him to produce to win, then you are in trouble.
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Re: Dez Bryant for 2.03 and 2.07?
He was supposed to bounce back in 2016...then again in 2017...when do we give up on the fact that he doesn't bounce anymore?thomasscheeks wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:56 pmI agree with Lukky.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:43 pmBecause when I watch him play I still see a very talented and dominant WR who's being horribly misused. There are times when it seems he's lost some edge this year, but I think that comes with the mental territory when an offense starts imploding.flyersfan1981 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:38 pm
Why? What has he shown over the past 3 seasons to be worth more than this?
He's 28, 29? That's not that old. WRs who deliver multiple years of Megatron-level production don't just "get bad" at 29 years old. If Dez seriously has "gotten bad", and doesn't bounce back, he will be quite a rare anomaly.
Yeah he's been pretty terrible, but this year Dak struggled so there's some hope that it's not all Dez's fault. Two second round picks just isn't enough for me to sell someone that could easily bounce back and have a huge season. I would just hold him and hope for the best. It's not like losing out on 2 second round picks is going to haunt you the rest of your life if Dez does sucks it up again
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Re: Dez Bryant for 2.03 and 2.07?
Coincidentally, his two seasons of suck have been a direct result of Dak Prescott starting at QB.
Now it's true that Dak isn't going anywhere, but just maybe he can take a step forward with his play in 2018. Maybe Dallas finally adds a competent WR opposite Dez to draw some coverage. Maybe the threat of a full season from Zeke will force teams to play the run game-in, game-out.
It's a lot of speculation, but if all I'm getting back is a 2nd round pick or two I'll just let him retire on my squad. At this point if I was going to trade him, I'd wait to do it in season when hopefully his play is better than it has been the last two years and another owner suffers a rash of injuries at the WR position.
I wouldn't be trading him now.
Now it's true that Dak isn't going anywhere, but just maybe he can take a step forward with his play in 2018. Maybe Dallas finally adds a competent WR opposite Dez to draw some coverage. Maybe the threat of a full season from Zeke will force teams to play the run game-in, game-out.
It's a lot of speculation, but if all I'm getting back is a 2nd round pick or two I'll just let him retire on my squad. At this point if I was going to trade him, I'd wait to do it in season when hopefully his play is better than it has been the last two years and another owner suffers a rash of injuries at the WR position.
I wouldn't be trading him now.
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Re: Dez Bryant for 2.03 and 2.07?
Thank you, well saidShoreline Steamers wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:54 pm Coincidentally, his two seasons of suck have been a direct result of Dak Prescott starting at QB.
Now it's true that Dak isn't going anywhere, but just maybe he can take a step forward with his play in 2018. Maybe Dallas finally adds a competent WR opposite Dez to draw some coverage. Maybe the threat of a full season from Zeke will force teams to play the run game-in, game-out.
It's a lot of speculation, but if all I'm getting back is a 2nd round pick or two I'll just let him retire on my squad. At this point if I was going to trade him, I'd wait to do it in season when hopefully his play is better than it has been the last two years and another owner suffers a rash of injuries at the WR position.
I wouldn't be trading him now.
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Re: Dez Bryant for 2.03 and 2.07?
Take the picks, this is exactly where his value is right now. I think if you don't, a year from now you'll be kicking yourself.
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