Opinion needed MB or SHADDY
Opinion needed MB or SHADDY
Martavis Bryant for Shaddy McCoy
Which sides is better?
What type of pieces should be added to even up the trade????
Which sides is better?
What type of pieces should be added to even up the trade????
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Re: Opinion needed MB or SHADDY
Most will say Bryant and that its not even close.
Shady can still play and yea, Bryant is athletic and all but he's still playing second fiddle to AB and that isn't changing anytime soon.
I think this is much closer than most everybody else will say it is.
Shady can still play and yea, Bryant is athletic and all but he's still playing second fiddle to AB and that isn't changing anytime soon.
I think this is much closer than most everybody else will say it is.
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Re: Opinion needed MB or SHADDY
Not only is MB still second fiddle, he's also another dirty wiz quiz away from sitting out a year. Id take shady
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Re: Opinion needed MB or SHADDY
I've got MB here. Shady has Karlos to deal with and soon enough the Bills are going to be Sammy's team, regardless of the impact Rex has on WRs (plus Rex could be gone this year if the Bills are the Bills again). MB has issues and risk, but he's got way more upside with elite size/athleticism. The second fiddle on that offense is better than the first option on many other teams.
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Re: Opinion needed MB or SHADDY
True but how easy is it when teams have to try to stop AB and Leveon first?JJDubya wrote:The second fiddle on that offense is better than the first option on many other teams.
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TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
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LB: Kuechly, Ogletree, Mosley, McKinney, R.Foster, Bucannon, Z.Cunningham, Anzalone, ShaqT,
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Re: Opinion needed MB or SHADDY
This for me too. McCoy has a ton of miles on him, will be 28 to start next season, and appears to be heading down the same career path as A. Foster. His soft tissue injuries keep pilling up and keep him off the field. I think it's just as likely that McCoy misses significant time for an injury compared to M. Bryant getting suspended for substance abuse. Both players carry a high amount of risk IMO. Give me the 24 year old WR that has shown big play ability in his first two seasons.JJDubya wrote:I've got MB here. Shady has Karlos to deal with and soon enough the Bills are going to be Sammy's team, regardless of the impact Rex has on WRs (plus Rex could be gone this year if the Bills are the Bills again). MB has issues and risk, but he's got way more upside with elite size/athleticism. The second fiddle on that offense is better than the first option on many other teams.
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Re: Opinion needed MB or SHADDY
I'm not a fan of either, but I would prefer Shady, he's shown what he can do, there is no question about his character or talent. He can still perform at a high level for at least 2-3 years
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Re: Opinion needed MB or SHADDY
I'd take MB here although I think it's extremely close. When healthy, McCoy put up mid RB1 numbers. But I think Martavis has a bright future, he comes with some risks tho.
Re: Opinion needed MB or SHADDY
"Dirty wiz quiz" has permanently been added to my phraseology repertoire. And because of that, I choose Shady.cucamonga wrote:Not only is MB still second fiddle, he's also another dirty wiz quiz away from sitting out a year. Id take shady
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Re: Opinion needed MB or SHADDY
Nailed it! ^bcoogan23 wrote:Most will say Bryant and that its not even close.
Shady can still play and yea, Bryant is athletic and all but he's still playing second fiddle to AB and that isn't changing anytime soon.
I think this is much closer than most everybody else will say it is.
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Re: Opinion needed MB or SHADDY
LaFleur42 wrote:Nailed it! ^bcoogan23 wrote:Most will say Bryant and that its not even close.
Shady can still play and yea, Bryant is athletic and all but he's still playing second fiddle to AB and that isn't changing anytime soon.
I think this is much closer than most everybody else will say it is.
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QB: Brees, Luck, Prescott, McCarron, C.Kelly, Peterman
RB: Elliott, Gurley, Hunt, Kamara, Gordon, Howard, McCaffrey, J.Williams,
WR: Julio, Hopkins, M.Thomas, TY, Watkins, Kupp, C.Davis, Thomas (LA), Carroo, Switzer, Tr. Taylor
TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
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LB: Kuechly, Ogletree, Mosley, McKinney, R.Foster, Bucannon, Z.Cunningham, Anzalone, ShaqT,
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WR: Julio, Hopkins, M.Thomas, TY, Watkins, Kupp, C.Davis, Thomas (LA), Carroo, Switzer, Tr. Taylor
TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
DL: Watt, Mack, C.Jordan, Bosa, D.Hunter, Clowney, Armstead
LB: Kuechly, Ogletree, Mosley, McKinney, R.Foster, Bucannon, Z.Cunningham, Anzalone, ShaqT,
, Goodson, Pullard,
DB: H.Smith, Vaccaro, B.Jones, Neal, Adoree, K.Joseph, Geathers, M.Maye, J.Jones, D Thompson
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Re: Opinion needed MB or SHADDY
I can't believe no one has asked you what your league starting requirements are. This trade could be swayed either way easily by the details of your league.
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Re: Opinion needed MB or SHADDY
I was going to say the term "many" is being used loosely here. I can only think of about 5 or 6 teams that I would take Bryant over their number 1 reciever. His situation is great for the fact he may not ever see double coverage but like bcoogan said, you also have 2 top 10 players in the game to hog some touches, and like the previous comment said he is one failed test away from being a poor man's Josh Gordon.bcoogan23 wrote:True but how easy is it when teams have to try to stop AB and Leveon first?JJDubya wrote:The second fiddle on that offense is better than the first option on many other teams.
Re: Opinion needed MB or SHADDY
I am low on mcCoy and think Williams will cut into his workload and that he is a must sell this offseason if you own him. I don't think its a run away but I like the Bryant side.
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Re: Opinion needed MB or SHADDY
Neight wrote:I can't believe no one has asked you what your league starting requirements are. This trade could be swayed either way easily by the details of your league.
He made 3 different threads at the same time earlier and I posted that on the 2 other threads... he hasn't been back online to tell us since.
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QB: Brees, Luck, Prescott, McCarron, C.Kelly, Peterman
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TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
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LB: Kuechly, Ogletree, Mosley, McKinney, R.Foster, Bucannon, Z.Cunningham, Anzalone, ShaqT,
, Goodson, Pullard,
DB: H.Smith, Vaccaro, B.Jones, Neal, Adoree, K.Joseph, Geathers, M.Maye, J.Jones, D Thompson
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Start QB,SF,2RB,3WR,TE,2Flex,3DL,3LB,3DB,2DFlex
3x Champion 2015, 2016, 2017
QB: Brees, Luck, Prescott, McCarron, C.Kelly, Peterman
RB: Elliott, Gurley, Hunt, Kamara, Gordon, Howard, McCaffrey, J.Williams,
WR: Julio, Hopkins, M.Thomas, TY, Watkins, Kupp, C.Davis, Thomas (LA), Carroo, Switzer, Tr. Taylor
TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
DL: Watt, Mack, C.Jordan, Bosa, D.Hunter, Clowney, Armstead
LB: Kuechly, Ogletree, Mosley, McKinney, R.Foster, Bucannon, Z.Cunningham, Anzalone, ShaqT,
, Goodson, Pullard,
DB: H.Smith, Vaccaro, B.Jones, Neal, Adoree, K.Joseph, Geathers, M.Maye, J.Jones, D Thompson
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