Buyers Remorse
Buyers Remorse
I adopted an orphan team that was in really bad shape. Team 2 in my signature. Only players of decent value are Garcon and Torrey Smith (and you could argue Brady). There were NO starting RBs (just MJD, Shonne Greene and Fred Jackson). But the team was loaded with picks including 1.1. Someone offered me Spiller and 1.4 for 1.1 and I accepted feeling like it was a steal. I recently found this site and after reading some of your responses, I am feeling like I undervalued the top pick. For purposes of improving my game going forward, please rate my trade.
Team 1
12 Team .2 PPR (1 PPR after 5 rec), salary cap.
1QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-3 TE.
QB: Eli, Wentz, Romo
RB: DJ, Freeman, Hyde, Coleman, Mathews
WR: OBJ, ARob, Watkins, Moncrief, White, Gordon, Hogan, Woods
TE: Gronk, Ebron
2017 Picks: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
12 team .2 PPR (full point after 5 receptions), salary cap. 1QB, 0-3RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE.
QB: Wilson,
RB: Drake, Marshall
WR: OBJ, Alshon, TY Hilton, Jordy Nelson, Benjamin, Parker, Doctson, John Brown, Shepard
TE: Eifert, Ebron,
2017 Picks: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06, 3.01, 3.10
Team 3 (3rd Year Orphan)
12 team .2 PPR (full point after 5 receptions), salary cap. 1QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-3 TE.
QB: Brees, Kaep
RB: DJ, Forte, Dion Lewis, White, Drake, Ellington
WR: OBJ, Matthews, John Brown, Fuller, Parker, White, Lockett, Treadwell, Hogan, Sharpe
TE: Brate, Ladarius, Kendricks
2017 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
12 Team .2 PPR (1 PPR after 5 rec), salary cap.
1QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-3 TE.
QB: Eli, Wentz, Romo
RB: DJ, Freeman, Hyde, Coleman, Mathews
WR: OBJ, ARob, Watkins, Moncrief, White, Gordon, Hogan, Woods
TE: Gronk, Ebron
2017 Picks: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
12 team .2 PPR (full point after 5 receptions), salary cap. 1QB, 0-3RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE.
QB: Wilson,
RB: Drake, Marshall
WR: OBJ, Alshon, TY Hilton, Jordy Nelson, Benjamin, Parker, Doctson, John Brown, Shepard
TE: Eifert, Ebron,
2017 Picks: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06, 3.01, 3.10
Team 3 (3rd Year Orphan)
12 team .2 PPR (full point after 5 receptions), salary cap. 1QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-3 TE.
QB: Brees, Kaep
RB: DJ, Forte, Dion Lewis, White, Drake, Ellington
WR: OBJ, Matthews, John Brown, Fuller, Parker, White, Lockett, Treadwell, Hogan, Sharpe
TE: Brate, Ladarius, Kendricks
2017 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Re: Buyers Remorse
not too bad, you'll still get Sankey or Cooks at 1.04 and this draft is loaded w/ players.. hit a big player or 2 and you'll be on your feet in no time
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Re: Buyers Remorse
Assuming you are able to get Cooks at 1.4 I don't hate this trade. Watkins is definitely better, but adding Spiller probably comes close to bridging the gap
10 Team Non-PPR:1/2/2/1/1
Rodgers,Carr
Lacy,Miller,Starks,Gio,Hill,Oliver,McKinnon,Stacy,
CPat,Watkins,White,Adams,Wheaton,JMatthews,Crabtree,Wilson,Quick, Parker, Coates,
Graham,Amaro,Gates
14 Team PPR (20 Keepers):1/2/3/1/1
Peyton,Cutler
L. Bell,Crowell,Michael,A. Brown,Cunningham,Dixon,R.Williams
Nelson,Bailey,Huff,Mi. Floyd,A. Johnson,CPat,Quick,Inman
Cameron,ASJ
HOU
4,17,32,40,68,73,96,101,124,129
12 Team PPR:1/2/3/1/1
Ben,Carr
Forte,Ellington,Crowell,Asiata,Bradshaw,Moreno,Stacy
Brown,Nelson,Benji,Ellington,Gordon,Wilson,Bailey,CPat
Graham,Amaro
11,21,30,38,59
12 Team PPR:1/2/3/1/1
Rodger
Lacy,McKinnon,Carey,Hillman,R. Williams,Gurley,Gordon
Nelson, Watkins,Wright,Latimer,Wilson,Wheaton,Gordon,Hawkins,Ellington,White
Amaro
Rodgers,Carr
Lacy,Miller,Starks,Gio,Hill,Oliver,McKinnon,Stacy,
CPat,Watkins,White,Adams,Wheaton,JMatthews,Crabtree,Wilson,Quick, Parker, Coates,
Graham,Amaro,Gates
14 Team PPR (20 Keepers):1/2/3/1/1
Peyton,Cutler
L. Bell,Crowell,Michael,A. Brown,Cunningham,Dixon,R.Williams
Nelson,Bailey,Huff,Mi. Floyd,A. Johnson,CPat,Quick,Inman
Cameron,ASJ
HOU
4,17,32,40,68,73,96,101,124,129
12 Team PPR:1/2/3/1/1
Ben,Carr
Forte,Ellington,Crowell,Asiata,Bradshaw,Moreno,Stacy
Brown,Nelson,Benji,Ellington,Gordon,Wilson,Bailey,CPat
Graham,Amaro
11,21,30,38,59
12 Team PPR:1/2/3/1/1
Rodger
Lacy,McKinnon,Carey,Hillman,R. Williams,Gurley,Gordon
Nelson, Watkins,Wright,Latimer,Wilson,Wheaton,Gordon,Hawkins,Ellington,White
Amaro
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Re: Buyers Remorse
Seems like a pretty good trade for me. If you're lacking quality players, then it was a solid move to give you a stronger core set of players.
Re: Buyers Remorse
Great trade!
That's how you start turning around an orphaned team in rough shape.
That's how you start turning around an orphaned team in rough shape.
Re: Buyers Remorse
I like it too. fills two needs.
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris
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Re: Buyers Remorse
As I've said a few times before when it comes to assessing a teams state as contender or pretender:Novacane wrote:I adopted an orphan team that was in really bad shape. Team 2 in my signature. Only players of decent value are Garcon and Torrey Smith (and you could argue Brady). There were NO starting RBs (just MJD, Shonne Greene and Fred Jackson). But the team was loaded with picks including 1.1. Someone offered me Spiller and 1.4 for 1.1 and I accepted feeling like it was a steal. I recently found this site and after reading some of your responses, I am feeling like I undervalued the top pick. For purposes of improving my game going forward, please rate my trade.
If i feel as though i am 2-3 years out as a contender then I don't focus on RB help until i feel like i will be competing within the next 1 or 2 years
If i feel as though i am close then yeah, i try to make trades like you did above.
I don't know what the other teams look like in your league but I think it was a good trade. If you think you are still a rebuild, just try to flip spiller after a good week 1/2 for picks and wr.
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Re: Buyers Remorse
Thanks for the feedback. And Badger, that is great advice. Much appreciated.
Team 1
12 Team .2 PPR (1 PPR after 5 rec), salary cap.
1QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-3 TE.
QB: Eli, Wentz, Romo
RB: DJ, Freeman, Hyde, Coleman, Mathews
WR: OBJ, ARob, Watkins, Moncrief, White, Gordon, Hogan, Woods
TE: Gronk, Ebron
2017 Picks: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
12 team .2 PPR (full point after 5 receptions), salary cap. 1QB, 0-3RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE.
QB: Wilson,
RB: Drake, Marshall
WR: OBJ, Alshon, TY Hilton, Jordy Nelson, Benjamin, Parker, Doctson, John Brown, Shepard
TE: Eifert, Ebron,
2017 Picks: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06, 3.01, 3.10
Team 3 (3rd Year Orphan)
12 team .2 PPR (full point after 5 receptions), salary cap. 1QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-3 TE.
QB: Brees, Kaep
RB: DJ, Forte, Dion Lewis, White, Drake, Ellington
WR: OBJ, Matthews, John Brown, Fuller, Parker, White, Lockett, Treadwell, Hogan, Sharpe
TE: Brate, Ladarius, Kendricks
2017 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
12 Team .2 PPR (1 PPR after 5 rec), salary cap.
1QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-3 TE.
QB: Eli, Wentz, Romo
RB: DJ, Freeman, Hyde, Coleman, Mathews
WR: OBJ, ARob, Watkins, Moncrief, White, Gordon, Hogan, Woods
TE: Gronk, Ebron
2017 Picks: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
12 team .2 PPR (full point after 5 receptions), salary cap. 1QB, 0-3RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE.
QB: Wilson,
RB: Drake, Marshall
WR: OBJ, Alshon, TY Hilton, Jordy Nelson, Benjamin, Parker, Doctson, John Brown, Shepard
TE: Eifert, Ebron,
2017 Picks: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06, 3.01, 3.10
Team 3 (3rd Year Orphan)
12 team .2 PPR (full point after 5 receptions), salary cap. 1QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-3 TE.
QB: Brees, Kaep
RB: DJ, Forte, Dion Lewis, White, Drake, Ellington
WR: OBJ, Matthews, John Brown, Fuller, Parker, White, Lockett, Treadwell, Hogan, Sharpe
TE: Brate, Ladarius, Kendricks
2017 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Re: Buyers Remorse
Rebuild/Contender/Pretender/Upstart/Middle of the pack/ etc. etc etc. It doesn't matter to me what kind of label I put on my team, I trade for one thing in dynasty leagues...VALUE. That's very good value for you. Getting Spiller to move back 3 spots to the 1.04 is a very nice trade for you. Given your team makeup though, I'd be looking to flip Spiller.
-TEAM 1. Year 5 '15/'16 Champ
Ben
Freeman/Cook/Hyde/Crowell/AP/Rawls/JWill(GB)/Gallman/Vereen/Smallwood/Clement
Julio/Jordy/Crowder/Enunwa/JuJu/Zay/Treadwell/JJNelson/Anderson/Switzer
Olsen/Graham/Gathers/Kittle
-TEAM 2- Year 5 '13/'16 Champ-'14/'15 R/U
Luck/Cousins
Bell/Hunt/Gillislee/Henry/Charles/Rawls/Burkhead
Brown/Jordy/Tate/Moncrief/Enunwa/Meredith/Zay/JJNelson/Anderson/Stewart
Olsen/Ebron/Henry
-TEAM 3- Year 5 '13-'15 R/U
Cam/Smith/Trubisky
Zeke/CJA/Montgomery/Ware/Charles/Booker/Burk/Smallwood/Cohen
Brown/Hilton/Diggs/Marvin/Pryor/Parker/Maclin/Meredith/JJNelson
Reed/Doyle/Miller/Gathers
-TEAM 4- Year 3
Wilson/Mariota
Ajayi/Howard/Hyde/Riddick/Vereen/Burk/Clement
OBJ/ARob/MThomas/Landry/Adams/Crowder/MJones/White/Lee/Samuel
Olsen/Rudolph/Swoope/Barnidge
Ben
Freeman/Cook/Hyde/Crowell/AP/Rawls/JWill(GB)/Gallman/Vereen/Smallwood/Clement
Julio/Jordy/Crowder/Enunwa/JuJu/Zay/Treadwell/JJNelson/Anderson/Switzer
Olsen/Graham/Gathers/Kittle
-TEAM 2- Year 5 '13/'16 Champ-'14/'15 R/U
Luck/Cousins
Bell/Hunt/Gillislee/Henry/Charles/Rawls/Burkhead
Brown/Jordy/Tate/Moncrief/Enunwa/Meredith/Zay/JJNelson/Anderson/Stewart
Olsen/Ebron/Henry
-TEAM 3- Year 5 '13-'15 R/U
Cam/Smith/Trubisky
Zeke/CJA/Montgomery/Ware/Charles/Booker/Burk/Smallwood/Cohen
Brown/Hilton/Diggs/Marvin/Pryor/Parker/Maclin/Meredith/JJNelson
Reed/Doyle/Miller/Gathers
-TEAM 4- Year 3
Wilson/Mariota
Ajayi/Howard/Hyde/Riddick/Vereen/Burk/Clement
OBJ/ARob/MThomas/Landry/Adams/Crowder/MJones/White/Lee/Samuel
Olsen/Rudolph/Swoope/Barnidge
Re: Buyers Remorse
I agree with the consensus that is was a good deal for you.
Re: Buyers Remorse
Agreed.BuckeyeNation wrote:Rebuild/Contender/Pretender/Upstart/Middle of the pack/ etc. etc etc. It doesn't matter to me what kind of label I put on my team, I trade for one thing in dynasty leagues...VALUE. That's very good value for you. Getting Spiller to move back 3 spots to the 1.04 is a very nice trade for you. Given your team makeup though, I'd be looking to flip Spiller.
That's an interesting notion Badger. I hadn't considered ever not investing in RBs, but I've always been a contender.
Dynasty 12 Team Non-PPR League - 2RB, 3WR, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE) - Rosters 30
QB - Brady, Siemian, Romo(INJ)
RB - Coleman, Foster, Spiller, Bush, McFadden (IR), A.Williams, Dunbar
WR - Crabtree, Alshon, Nelson, Dez (INJ), Floyd (AZ), Seth Roberts, DeVante Parker, Cordarrelle, Treadwell, Goodwin,
TE - Gronk, Z.Miller, Witten
Flex - Hogan
Flex - Pryor
K - Boswell
DST - Dolphins, Redskins, Lions
Dynasty 8 Team Non-PPR League - 3 Flex (RB/WR/TE) - Rosters 30
QB - Brady, Dalton, Romo (INJ)
RB - DeMarco, J.Hill, Yeldon, A.Williams, K.Davis, Dunbar, Blue
WR - Alshon, Dez, Moncrief, M.Jones, Cruz, Funchess, D.Smith, B.Coleman, Hankerson, White, Dobson
TE - Gronk, Cameron
Flex - Maclin
Flex - Floyd (Ari)
Flex - DeAngelo
K - Boswell
DST - Chiefs, Dolphins, Bills
Reserve - None
QB - Brady, Siemian, Romo(INJ)
RB - Coleman, Foster, Spiller, Bush, McFadden (IR), A.Williams, Dunbar
WR - Crabtree, Alshon, Nelson, Dez (INJ), Floyd (AZ), Seth Roberts, DeVante Parker, Cordarrelle, Treadwell, Goodwin,
TE - Gronk, Z.Miller, Witten
Flex - Hogan
Flex - Pryor
K - Boswell
DST - Dolphins, Redskins, Lions
Dynasty 8 Team Non-PPR League - 3 Flex (RB/WR/TE) - Rosters 30
QB - Brady, Dalton, Romo (INJ)
RB - DeMarco, J.Hill, Yeldon, A.Williams, K.Davis, Dunbar, Blue
WR - Alshon, Dez, Moncrief, M.Jones, Cruz, Funchess, D.Smith, B.Coleman, Hankerson, White, Dobson
TE - Gronk, Cameron
Flex - Maclin
Flex - Floyd (Ari)
Flex - DeAngelo
K - Boswell
DST - Chiefs, Dolphins, Bills
Reserve - None
Re: Buyers Remorse
I think that's a pretty damn good deal for both sides.
You improved greatly by only moving back 4 spots. History shows that owning a top 5 pick is awesome, almost no matter what spot you're in.
I would be very happy to have the likes of Watkins, Evans, Sankey, Cooks, or Ebron on a rebuild. Heck, I'd try to move back another spot or 2 and pick up even more if possible. This is a deep draft you know.
You improved greatly by only moving back 4 spots. History shows that owning a top 5 pick is awesome, almost no matter what spot you're in.
I would be very happy to have the likes of Watkins, Evans, Sankey, Cooks, or Ebron on a rebuild. Heck, I'd try to move back another spot or 2 and pick up even more if possible. This is a deep draft you know.
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