Full ppr with 2 ppr TEP. In a 12 team startup would you prefer Dalton Kincaid , jaylen waddle or Brandon Aiyuk.
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Aiyuk vs Kincaid vs waddle
Aiyuk vs Kincaid vs waddle
12 team Superflex, 1/2 point PPR, 1 point TEP, Start 11 spots
QB: D Watson, J hurts., T. Lance, S. howell
RB: Bijan, B Hall, J. Gibbs, A kamara, J. Ford, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell
WR: J. Chase, G. wilson, C. Watson, J. Dotson, , R. shaheed, C. austin, T. Scott, T. Tucker
TE: P. Freurmuth, J. Johnson, C. otton, T. Kraft
QB: D Watson, J hurts., T. Lance, S. howell
RB: Bijan, B Hall, J. Gibbs, A kamara, J. Ford, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell
WR: J. Chase, G. wilson, C. Watson, J. Dotson, , R. shaheed, C. austin, T. Scott, T. Tucker
TE: P. Freurmuth, J. Johnson, C. otton, T. Kraft
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Re: Aiyuk vs Kincaid vs waddle
I do think TEs get way overvalued in TEP leagues. But, I’d be willing place my chip on Kincaid because there’s a chance he’s their WR1 this year.
The fact that a 75-900-7 season from Kincaid is the same pts as 100-1400-7 from a WR does swing things.
The fact that a 75-900-7 season from Kincaid is the same pts as 100-1400-7 from a WR does swing things.
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TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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TEAM C - 32T (2 copy), 1QB, TEP
TUA, J Daniels
KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Nabers, Pittman, Diggs, Polk
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert
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TEAM F - 12T, SF & TEP
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, J Warren, Allgier
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, McLaurin, Ridley
LAPORTA
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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TEAM C - 32T (2 copy), 1QB, TEP
TUA, J Daniels
KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Nabers, Pittman, Diggs, Polk
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert
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TEAM F - 12T, SF & TEP
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, J Warren, Allgier
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, McLaurin, Ridley
LAPORTA
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Re: Aiyuk vs Kincaid vs waddle
With 2 point TEP easily Kincaid for me
Team 1:
10 team SF, .5 ppr
1-QB 1-SF 3-WR 2-RB 1-TE 1-Flex
QB: Allen, Burrow, Goff, Aidan OConnel
RB: ETN, K Walker, Swift, Spears, Brooks, Benson, D Pierce, Herbert, McLaughlin, Roschon
WR: Aiyuk, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Dell, Higgins, E Moore, Michael Wilson
TE: Kincaid, Sinnott, Njoku
10 team SF, .5 ppr
1-QB 1-SF 3-WR 2-RB 1-TE 1-Flex
QB: Allen, Burrow, Goff, Aidan OConnel
RB: ETN, K Walker, Swift, Spears, Brooks, Benson, D Pierce, Herbert, McLaughlin, Roschon
WR: Aiyuk, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Dell, Higgins, E Moore, Michael Wilson
TE: Kincaid, Sinnott, Njoku
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Re: Aiyuk vs Kincaid vs waddle
Waddle.
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Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 W/T, 2 R/W/T, 1 PK, 3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 2 IDP
2015: 7th
2016: 4th
2017: 8th
2018: 3rd
2019: 6th
2020: 1st
2021: 2nd
2022: 2nd
2023: 1st
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 W/T, 2 R/W/T, 1 PK, 3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 2 IDP
2015: 7th
2016: 4th
2017: 8th
2018: 3rd
2019: 6th
2020: 1st
2021: 2nd
2022: 2nd
2023: 1st
Re: Aiyuk vs Kincaid vs waddle
I’ll throw in a vote for Aiyuk. I know some of his efficiency numbers from last year aren’t sustainable, I just think he’s really effing good and even though he’s on a stacked offense, the other weapons are getting up there in age and prone to miss a few games. I like both of the other options, I just wasn’t overly impressed with Kincaid as a prospect or as a player last year and while his situation is good for next year, I doubt the Bills waste many years of Allen’s prime with him as arguably their top option.
Team 1
10 team, sf, 0.5 ppr, te prem 1.0 ppr, idp
Start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 3 flex, 1 sf, 2 dl, 2 lb, 2 db, 1 idp flex
QB- Dak, Tua, Cousins, Minshew, Jimmy G
RB- CMC, Taylor, Achane, Zeke, Pierce, Mostert, Chandler, Ford
WR- Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Devonta, K Allen, Godwin, Lockett, Douglas, Z Jones
TE- LaPorta, Pitts
DL- Phillips, Burns, Buckner, Thibs
LB- Luvu, E.Jones, Warner Pace
DB- Hamilton, Metellus Hufanga, Bates, Branch
League started in 2020
2020 7th
2021 Champ
2022 Champ
2023 Champ
2024 picks 3.10 and 5.10
Team 2
12 team, SF, 0.5 ppr, 1.0 te prem, idp
Qb - Lamar, Kyler Jacoby
Rb - Achane, KWalk Swift, Estime, Irving Foreman, Mattison
Wr - Wilson, AJB, London, JSN Downs, Polk, R Wilson, Mims, Shaheed, McMillan, Palmer, Douglas
Te - Pitts, Goedert Bowers, Fant, All, Wiley
Dl - Gary, Greenard Latu, Mafe, Karlaftis
Lb - Luvu, Milano, Wilson Jamin
Db - Hamilton, Brisker Curl, Sainristil
10 team, sf, 0.5 ppr, te prem 1.0 ppr, idp
Start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 3 flex, 1 sf, 2 dl, 2 lb, 2 db, 1 idp flex
QB- Dak, Tua, Cousins, Minshew, Jimmy G
RB- CMC, Taylor, Achane, Zeke, Pierce, Mostert, Chandler, Ford
WR- Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Devonta, K Allen, Godwin, Lockett, Douglas, Z Jones
TE- LaPorta, Pitts
DL- Phillips, Burns, Buckner, Thibs
LB- Luvu, E.Jones, Warner Pace
DB- Hamilton, Metellus Hufanga, Bates, Branch
League started in 2020
2020 7th
2021 Champ
2022 Champ
2023 Champ
2024 picks 3.10 and 5.10
Team 2
12 team, SF, 0.5 ppr, 1.0 te prem, idp
Qb - Lamar, Kyler Jacoby
Rb - Achane, KWalk Swift, Estime, Irving Foreman, Mattison
Wr - Wilson, AJB, London, JSN Downs, Polk, R Wilson, Mims, Shaheed, McMillan, Palmer, Douglas
Te - Pitts, Goedert Bowers, Fant, All, Wiley
Dl - Gary, Greenard Latu, Mafe, Karlaftis
Lb - Luvu, Milano, Wilson Jamin
Db - Hamilton, Brisker Curl, Sainristil
Re: Aiyuk vs Kincaid vs waddle
Kincaid for me.
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
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Tm 5
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Tm 6
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12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
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Tm 5
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Tm 6
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Re: Aiyuk vs Kincaid vs waddle
Great point, but I'm the rare Wookie who is not 100% convinced Kincaid is a special fantasy TE.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 7:30 pmThe fact that a 75-900-7 season from Kincaid is the same pts as 100-1400-7 from a WR does swing things.
It takes a special NFL TE to put up 900+yds and 7 TDs in a season. In 2023, Kelce had 984/5; LaPorta had 889/1; Engram had 967/5 which was his best year ever; Kittle had 1020/6. In 2022 which was his last full season, Hock had 960/5. I'm not ready to say Kincaid is as good as those guys, or that Buffalo's scheme is going to be designed to feature a TE that much.
OTOH, Waddle has already produced a 1356/8 season. We know he can do it and that his offensive scheme will allow it. Aiyuk has already produced a 1342/7 season. We know he can do it and that his offensive scheme will allow it.
I'm not saying I would not ever take a TE over those two WRs. However, I would not consider taking Kincaid over those two young WRs.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
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QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver, Waller
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver, Waller
2023 semifinals loser
Re: Aiyuk vs Kincaid vs waddle
In 2TEP tight ends are getting a massive bump. Kincaid's 36 catches will be worth 72 from Aiyuk, which is what he had last year (74 the year before). Realistically, I see Kincaid getting in the 80-100 target range this season with the departures of both Diggs and Davis.
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Re: Aiyuk vs Kincaid vs waddle
Agreed.Anteaters wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 4:34 amGreat point, but I'm the rare Wookie who is not 100% convinced Kincaid is a special fantasy TE.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 7:30 pmThe fact that a 75-900-7 season from Kincaid is the same pts as 100-1400-7 from a WR does swing things.
It takes a special NFL TE to put up 900+yds and 7 TDs in a season. In 2023, Kelce had 984/5; LaPorta had 889/1; Engram had 967/5 which was his best year ever; Kittle had 1020/6. In 2022 which was his last full season, Hock had 960/5. I'm not ready to say Kincaid is as good as those guys, or that Buffalo's scheme is going to be designed to feature a TE that much.
OTOH, Waddle has already produced a 1356/8 season. We know he can do it and that his offensive scheme will allow it. Aiyuk has already produced a 1342/7 season. We know he can do it and that his offensive scheme will allow it.
I'm not saying I would not ever take a TE over those two WRs. However, I would not consider taking Kincaid over those two young WRs.
10 Tm Dynasty 1QB/IDP/1.0 PPR/40 Rst
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 W/T, 2 R/W/T, 1 PK, 3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 2 IDP
2015: 7th
2016: 4th
2017: 8th
2018: 3rd
2019: 6th
2020: 1st
2021: 2nd
2022: 2nd
2023: 1st
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 W/T, 2 R/W/T, 1 PK, 3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 2 IDP
2015: 7th
2016: 4th
2017: 8th
2018: 3rd
2019: 6th
2020: 1st
2021: 2nd
2022: 2nd
2023: 1st
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Re: Aiyuk vs Kincaid vs waddle
this isn't close in 2 PPR TE, thats crazy
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Re: Aiyuk vs Kincaid vs waddle
Give me Kincaid in this setup
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Re: Aiyuk vs Kincaid vs waddle
kincaid is easily hitting 750 and 5 even if you doubt 900 and 7
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
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Re: Aiyuk vs Kincaid vs waddle
Which still gives him less points than Waddle in a fully healthy,typical Waddle season. Aiyuk is touching those numbers the last two years as well.BigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 8:53 pm kincaid is easily hitting 750 and 5 even if you doubt 900 and 7
10 Tm Dynasty 1QB/IDP/1.0 PPR/40 Rst
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 W/T, 2 R/W/T, 1 PK, 3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 2 IDP
2015: 7th
2016: 4th
2017: 8th
2018: 3rd
2019: 6th
2020: 1st
2021: 2nd
2022: 2nd
2023: 1st
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 W/T, 2 R/W/T, 1 PK, 3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 2 IDP
2015: 7th
2016: 4th
2017: 8th
2018: 3rd
2019: 6th
2020: 1st
2021: 2nd
2022: 2nd
2023: 1st
Re: Aiyuk vs Kincaid vs waddle
Kincaid is going to go off in 2024. Mark my words
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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