Jayden Daniels Vs. 3 1sts

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Jayden Daniels Vs. 3 1sts

Postby pmart33 » Fri May 10, 2024 7:27 am

Team 2 in Signature. 12 Team SF TE Prem. As the only rebuilding team in the league I'm the only defined seller in the league and have and been getting insane future draft pick value for players. Latest offer:

Give: Jayden Daniels (just selected him at 1.06)
Get: 2025 1st, 2026 1st, 2027 1st

I currently have 14 future 1sts in the next 3 drafts. Do I keep accumulating good value where I can get it or keep Daniels?

Also the league is comprised of family and friends that I know will not bail on the league.
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12 Team .5 PPR
Starters 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Hurts Love Cousins
RB CMC Stevenson Ekeler Mostert Spiller
WR Hill Puka Aiyuk Diggs
TE Kelce

Team 2
12 Team PPR SF TE Prem
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Williams, A-Rich, Daniels
RB J. Wright Hull
WR Nabers Flowers C. Watson Burton Mingo
TE McBride Musgrave Mayer Fant

7 2025 1sts
5 2026 1sts
2 2027 1sts

Team 3
12 Team PPR SF
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Burrow Purdy Penix Howell
RB Taylor Hall Kyren Pollard Z. White Dowdle
WR Lamb Puka Deebo Dionte McConkey M. Williams Zay Jones
TE Njoku Fant Hill

Team 4
12 Team .5 PPR SF TE Prem 1 PPR
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Purdy Cousins Watson Levis Fields
RB Bijan Gibbs Barkley Walker Kyren Brooks
WR Lamb Hill Kupp Dell Diontae McConkey E. Moore Mims Pierce
TE Hockenson Goedert

2 2025 1sts
4 2026 1sts

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Re: Jayden Daniels Vs. 3 1sts

Postby killer_of_giants » Fri May 10, 2024 7:31 am

i'd take three 1sts over pretty much any rookie. they're far away but that means they could end up very early, too, and it's not like you're starved for picks. you have two young QBs and with all that capital you'll be able to buy a QB3 if you need him.

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Re: Jayden Daniels Vs. 3 1sts

Postby Mtt33 » Fri May 10, 2024 7:49 am

Easily taking this!

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Re: Jayden Daniels Vs. 3 1sts

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri May 10, 2024 8:09 am

im keeping that QB trio and using all my picks on filling out rb and wr. you are set at qb, set at te, have nabers flowers watson and already own 7 firsts next year lol.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

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Re: Jayden Daniels Vs. 3 1sts

Postby kellysheroes » Fri May 10, 2024 8:21 am

As much as I like Daniels think I'm taking the picks

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Re: Jayden Daniels Vs. 3 1sts

Postby killer_of_giants » Fri May 10, 2024 8:36 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 8:09 am im keeping that QB trio and using all my picks on filling out rb and wr. you are set at qb, set at te, have nabers flowers watson and already own 7 firsts next year lol.
well yeah, if you assume daniels hits like he could, he'd be the play. but i'll take three 1sts over the "maybe" he is now, that would give me the chance to pick three busts instead of one!

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Re: Jayden Daniels Vs. 3 1sts

Postby papageo8 » Fri May 10, 2024 11:07 am

Oh my smash accept. I've been trying to trade him for 2 1sts, qbs like tlaw or dak and him and a 1st for lamar. I keep getting laughed out of the room.

Take the three 1sts and run. That's about his ceiling value anyway if he smashes it and isn't mahomes or Allen level.

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Re: Jayden Daniels Vs. 3 1sts

Postby wickerkat1212 » Fri May 10, 2024 11:14 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 8:09 am im keeping that QB trio and using all my picks on filling out rb and wr. you are set at qb, set at te, have nabers flowers watson and already own 7 firsts next year lol.
I think I lean this way, too. At some point you can only kick the can so far down the road. Do you expect those picks to be later? If they are in the top third or half, I might do it. But honestly, Daniels (assuming you are a believer) vs. mid to late 25, 26, 27 picks? I'd keep Daniels. BUT I wouldn't be against you taking picks. Value tends to be in the fop 5-8 picks each year so just keep that in mind. I guess since you do have two starting QBs you could move Daniels. See if you can get a functional QB back in return with the picks, even somebody in the bottom half of the league or aging vet.
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QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

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QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Jayden Daniels Vs. 3 1sts

Postby TheTroll » Fri May 10, 2024 3:21 pm

kellysheroes wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 8:21 am As much as I like Daniels think I'm taking the picks
This! And I LOVE Daniels
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1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
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2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

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2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Jayden Daniels Vs. 3 1sts

Postby Edgy68 » Fri May 10, 2024 8:24 pm

Your supposition about where the picks will land should decide this. 3 late 1sts, some for which you have to wait, do not equate to a QB1 in SF. I agree at some point, you must keep good young players. Daniels could gain quite a bit of value once we see him on the field. He COULD lose value, but that high 1st NFL capital insulates him a bit. I’d hold..
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RB J. Taylor, B. Hall, D. Henry, D. Achane, K. Miller, R. Johnson, M. Sanders, T. Sermon, C. Patterson, P. Strong, K. Ingram, TDP
WR AJ Brown, J. Chase, C. Lamb, C. Ridley, JSN, G. Pickens, K. Osborn, J. Meyers, A. Pierce, T. Scott
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DB R. Grant, J. Simmons
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Re: Jayden Daniels Vs. 3 1sts

Postby Bay City Original » Fri May 10, 2024 8:40 pm

In a typical situation, I would also take the picks; however, I have concerns about your league. My experience is that many "friends and family" leagues have a re-draft mentality. The fact that you've accumulated so many draft picks over the next three years suggests many probably have this mentality, too.

In this league, will you be able to trade picks for players, or will you need to rely on drafting a winner? If relying on drafting to build your team, I'd definitely keep Daniels and start building around him, Caleb, and ARich. I'd rather have this group set and focus on all your other positions later.

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Re: Jayden Daniels Vs. 3 1sts

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri May 10, 2024 10:22 pm

pmart33 wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 7:27 am Team 2 in Signature. 12 Team SF TE Prem. As the only rebuilding team in the league I'm the only defined seller in the league and have and been getting insane future draft pick value for players. Latest offer:

Give: Jayden Daniels (just selected him at 1.06)
Get: 2025 1st, 2026 1st, 2027 1st

I currently have 14 future 1sts in the next 3 drafts. Do I keep accumulating good value where I can get it or keep Daniels?

Also the league is comprised of family and friends that I know will not bail on the league.
Need to pay for those years. IMO, any league that doesn't implement "pay to play" is in danger of folding, and should be treated, and exploited as if it's redraft.

Imagine paying future firsts 3 years ahead, paying nothing, going all in to win, collecting the winnings, and then bailing.

This is a terrible setup IF this is the case, in ANY league. Pay to play, you shouldn't have any"right" to future draft assets in a money league, unless you pay.
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Re: Jayden Daniels Vs. 3 1sts

Postby wickerkat1212 » Fri May 10, 2024 11:06 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 10:22 pm
pmart33 wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 7:27 am Team 2 in Signature. 12 Team SF TE Prem. As the only rebuilding team in the league I'm the only defined seller in the league and have and been getting insane future draft pick value for players. Latest offer:

Give: Jayden Daniels (just selected him at 1.06)
Get: 2025 1st, 2026 1st, 2027 1st

I currently have 14 future 1sts in the next 3 drafts. Do I keep accumulating good value where I can get it or keep Daniels?

Also the league is comprised of family and friends that I know will not bail on the league.
Need to pay for those years. IMO, any league that doesn't implement "pay to play" is in danger of folding, and should be treated, and exploited as if it's redraft.

Imagine paying future firsts 3 years ahead, paying nothing, going all in to win, collecting the winnings, and then bailing.

This is a terrible setup IF this is the case, in ANY league. Pay to play, you shouldn't have any"right" to future draft assets in a money league, unless you pay.
Agree. All of my leagues are like that. Trade 25 pick, pay for 25 season. Pay for 26 picks, pay for 26 season. And we only allow two years ahead for picks. So current picks plus 2025 and 2026, that's it.
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QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Jayden Daniels Vs. 3 1sts

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri May 10, 2024 11:45 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 11:06 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 10:22 pm
pmart33 wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 7:27 am Team 2 in Signature. 12 Team SF TE Prem. As the only rebuilding team in the league I'm the only defined seller in the league and have and been getting insane future draft pick value for players. Latest offer:

Give: Jayden Daniels (just selected him at 1.06)
Get: 2025 1st, 2026 1st, 2027 1st

I currently have 14 future 1sts in the next 3 drafts. Do I keep accumulating good value where I can get it or keep Daniels?

Also the league is comprised of family and friends that I know will not bail on the league.
Need to pay for those years. IMO, any league that doesn't implement "pay to play" is in danger of folding, and should be treated, and exploited as if it's redraft.

Imagine paying future firsts 3 years ahead, paying nothing, going all in to win, collecting the winnings, and then bailing.

This is a terrible setup IF this is the case, in ANY league. Pay to play, you shouldn't have any"right" to future draft assets in a money league, unless you pay.
Agree. All of my leagues are like that. Trade 25 pick, pay for 25 season. Pay for 26 picks, pay for 26 season. And we only allow two years ahead for picks. So current picks plus 2025 and 2026, that's it.
Yep

2 years ahead. Same. Pay to play, up to 2 years. Only leagues I am now in are ones I commish, and this is the format.
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