Where are we ranking stroud now?
Where are we ranking stroud now?
Stroud has obviously been really good so far and yesterday’s game was amazing. How high are we ranking him now?
He is not in top 5 yet but after mahomes Allen hurts burrow and Herbert I’m not sure I would trade him straight up for anyone else in the next tier of lamar Lawrence a rich and Tua. How do you all ranked him?
He is not in top 5 yet but after mahomes Allen hurts burrow and Herbert I’m not sure I would trade him straight up for anyone else in the next tier of lamar Lawrence a rich and Tua. How do you all ranked him?
10 team start 2QB salary cap .5 PPR 2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)
QB: Stroud, Lamar Geno, Dobbs, Young
RB: CMC eitiene, Hall, Jevante Williams, Perine
WR: Jefferson, Waddle, Pittman, Olave, d Smith, N brown
TE: Goedart, Chig
2024 3ones
2025 5ones
Team 2: 12 team salary cap PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)
QB: Burrow, Lawrence, Richardson, Young
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Taylor, Swift, sanders, Roshon
WR: Chase, Lamb, waddle, Olave, Watson, Ridley
TE: Pitts, Johnson, Mayer
2024 5 ones 3 twos
QB: Stroud, Lamar Geno, Dobbs, Young
RB: CMC eitiene, Hall, Jevante Williams, Perine
WR: Jefferson, Waddle, Pittman, Olave, d Smith, N brown
TE: Goedart, Chig
2024 3ones
2025 5ones
Team 2: 12 team salary cap PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)
QB: Burrow, Lawrence, Richardson, Young
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Taylor, Swift, sanders, Roshon
WR: Chase, Lamb, waddle, Olave, Watson, Ridley
TE: Pitts, Johnson, Mayer
2024 5 ones 3 twos
Re: Where are we ranking stroud now?
I think he's firmly in that 7-10 range, where it's all about preference. I still think the 5 you listed (Pat, Hurts, Allen, Burrow, Herbert) and solidified and i also would rank Lamar as 6th, but after that? Hard to put anyone else ahead of him as they all have question marks:
- Trevor has flashed but has been unable to do it consistently
- Anthony Richardson looked great in 3 games but ultimately couldn't stay on the field and has a playing style that worries you long-term
- Tua - Miami still hasn't signed him, unlikely he's the guy moving forward but is benefiting from a good system under McDaniels
- Fields - yikes...not trending in the right direction
- Watson/Murray/Dak/Young - easily take Stroud over any of these guys
- Trevor has flashed but has been unable to do it consistently
- Anthony Richardson looked great in 3 games but ultimately couldn't stay on the field and has a playing style that worries you long-term
- Tua - Miami still hasn't signed him, unlikely he's the guy moving forward but is benefiting from a good system under McDaniels
- Fields - yikes...not trending in the right direction
- Watson/Murray/Dak/Young - easily take Stroud over any of these guys
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1Flex (RB/WR/TE)/1 Superflex (QB/RB/WR/TE)
'Ships: 2008, 2017, 2019, 2021; 2nd place: 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022
12 team PPR with 14 Keepers/year
2023 Draft Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11, 3.04, 3.07, 5.04
QB: L.Jackson, J. Burrow, G. Minshew, J. Winston
RB: J.Mixon, ETN, Jav.Williams, J.Conner, Z.Moss, JK Dobbins (IR), N.Chubb (IR)
WR: AJB, CD Lamb, DK, C.Sutton
TE: M.Andrews, T.McBride, I. Likely
'Ships: 2008, 2017, 2019, 2021; 2nd place: 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022
12 team PPR with 14 Keepers/year
2023 Draft Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11, 3.04, 3.07, 5.04
QB: L.Jackson, J. Burrow, G. Minshew, J. Winston
RB: J.Mixon, ETN, Jav.Williams, J.Conner, Z.Moss, JK Dobbins (IR), N.Chubb (IR)
WR: AJB, CD Lamb, DK, C.Sutton
TE: M.Andrews, T.McBride, I. Likely
Re: Where are we ranking stroud now?
Last week for team 1 which is 2 qb a guy offered me Tua for stroud, Bryce, and 2 early ones. I politely declined as it wasn’t close to anything I would do. But after this week not sure I would trade stroud straight up for Tua.
10 team start 2QB salary cap .5 PPR 2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)
QB: Stroud, Lamar Geno, Dobbs, Young
RB: CMC eitiene, Hall, Jevante Williams, Perine
WR: Jefferson, Waddle, Pittman, Olave, d Smith, N brown
TE: Goedart, Chig
2024 3ones
2025 5ones
Team 2: 12 team salary cap PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)
QB: Burrow, Lawrence, Richardson, Young
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Taylor, Swift, sanders, Roshon
WR: Chase, Lamb, waddle, Olave, Watson, Ridley
TE: Pitts, Johnson, Mayer
2024 5 ones 3 twos
QB: Stroud, Lamar Geno, Dobbs, Young
RB: CMC eitiene, Hall, Jevante Williams, Perine
WR: Jefferson, Waddle, Pittman, Olave, d Smith, N brown
TE: Goedart, Chig
2024 3ones
2025 5ones
Team 2: 12 team salary cap PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Flex(WR/RB/TE)
QB: Burrow, Lawrence, Richardson, Young
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Taylor, Swift, sanders, Roshon
WR: Chase, Lamb, waddle, Olave, Watson, Ridley
TE: Pitts, Johnson, Mayer
2024 5 ones 3 twos
Re: Where are we ranking stroud now?
I've had Stroud over Tua for a few weeks now
Re: Where are we ranking stroud now?
Mahomes
Hurts
Allen
Burrow
Lawrence
Stroud
Herbert
Lamar
Tua
Purdy
Hurts
Allen
Burrow
Lawrence
Stroud
Herbert
Lamar
Tua
Purdy
Re: Where are we ranking stroud now?
What? Tua unlikely the guy? That's crazy. He's absolutely the guy moving forward, barring another serious injury (which is his true question mark). He's 25. He's on pace for almost 5k yards and 36TDs and currently leads the league in both categories, on top of leading the league for two straight years in passer rating.KCLep20 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:22 am I think he's firmly in that 7-10 range, where it's all about preference. I still think the 5 you listed (Pat, Hurts, Allen, Burrow, Herbert) and solidified and i also would rank Lamar as 6th, but after that? Hard to put anyone else ahead of him as they all have question marks:
- Trevor has flashed but has been unable to do it consistently
- Anthony Richardson looked great in 3 games but ultimately couldn't stay on the field and has a playing style that worries you long-term
- Tua - Miami still hasn't signed him, unlikely he's the guy moving forward but is benefiting from a good system under McDaniels
- Fields - yikes...not trending in the right direction
- Watson/Murray/Dak/Young - easily take Stroud over any of these guys
I do agree that CJS should be in the 6-10 range, and probably towards the front rather than the back of that tier.
Re: Where are we ranking stroud now?
My perosnal dynasty QB ranks:
1. Patty
2. Hurts
3. Allen
4. Burrow
5. Herbert
6. Stroud
7. Lamar
8. TLaw
9. AR
10. Tua
11. Fields
12. Kyler
1. Patty
2. Hurts
3. Allen
4. Burrow
5. Herbert
6. Stroud
7. Lamar
8. TLaw
9. AR
10. Tua
11. Fields
12. Kyler
Team 1 - 20 Team Superflex:
QB: CJ.Stroud, B.Zappe
RB: D.Montgomery, K.Gainwell, I.Abanikanda
WR: C.Olave, P.Nacua, T.Higgins, J.Smith-Njigba, C.Sutton, N.Brown
TE: T.McBride, L.Thomas, B.Jordan
Team 2 - 20 Team Superflex
QB: L.Jackson, J.Love
RB: T.Pollard
WR: C.Lamb, J.Waddle, K.Allen, R.Doubs, P.Washington
TE: I.Likely, I.Smith, J.Graham
QB: CJ.Stroud, B.Zappe
RB: D.Montgomery, K.Gainwell, I.Abanikanda
WR: C.Olave, P.Nacua, T.Higgins, J.Smith-Njigba, C.Sutton, N.Brown
TE: T.McBride, L.Thomas, B.Jordan
Team 2 - 20 Team Superflex
QB: L.Jackson, J.Love
RB: T.Pollard
WR: C.Lamb, J.Waddle, K.Allen, R.Doubs, P.Washington
TE: I.Likely, I.Smith, J.Graham
Re: Where are we ranking stroud now?
If I was choosing player in a 2QB dynasty start-up, the only two QBs I'd consider taking over CJS are Mahomes and Hurts.
If I "ranking" them for fantasy production in the short term (1-2 years) I'd probably put Josh Allen above CJS as well.
Other than that, I'm taking CJS over every other QB. His age and his ability+skill+game intelligence make him my favorite over everyone else.
If I "ranking" them for fantasy production in the short term (1-2 years) I'd probably put Josh Allen above CJS as well.
Other than that, I'm taking CJS over every other QB. His age and his ability+skill+game intelligence make him my favorite over everyone else.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
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Re: Where are we ranking stroud now?
1. Mahomes
2. Allen
3. Burrow
4. Hurts
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5. Herbert
6. Lamar
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7. TLaw
8. Stroud
9. Kyler
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10. Tua
11. AR
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12. Bryce
For my money.
2. Allen
3. Burrow
4. Hurts
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5. Herbert
6. Lamar
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7. TLaw
8. Stroud
9. Kyler
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10. Tua
11. AR
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12. Bryce
For my money.
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Re: Where are we ranking stroud now?
This looks really close to me. I’d drop Fileds completely and move Kyler up to 11. I’m willing to take several guys over Fields at this point.
I honestly don’t see a long future for Allen either. I’d drop him below Stroud for dynasty as crazy as that sounds.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
Re: Where are we ranking stroud now?
For me it comes down to the Lamar dividing line. If you're rebuilding/youth movement focussed, I can see how you can justify CJ Stroud over him if those extra 4 years of youth are worth it to you.
He's only had one QB1 finish (this week) - more commonly, he's finishing as a QB10-QB13... a back-end QB1.
I think that's what he is, in real life - a back-of-the Top 10 QB talent.
In order to get him as high as our resident reactionary Anteaters (QB3!) you have to truly believe that once he gets an elite WR or TE weapon, this thing will boom even further.
(Personally, I think the idea of putting him over Hurts and Burrow - when both of them are already linked to the best WR's in football for the immediate 3+ years future - plus Hurts with his insane GL rushing ability - well... that's pretty dumb lol)
I'd take him over T-Law though. Talk about overrated...
He's only had one QB1 finish (this week) - more commonly, he's finishing as a QB10-QB13... a back-end QB1.
I think that's what he is, in real life - a back-of-the Top 10 QB talent.
In order to get him as high as our resident reactionary Anteaters (QB3!) you have to truly believe that once he gets an elite WR or TE weapon, this thing will boom even further.
(Personally, I think the idea of putting him over Hurts and Burrow - when both of them are already linked to the best WR's in football for the immediate 3+ years future - plus Hurts with his insane GL rushing ability - well... that's pretty dumb lol)
I'd take him over T-Law though. Talk about overrated...
Re: Where are we ranking stroud now?
I think you should have Stroud wherever you have Herbert. I have a tough time differentiating between the two.
He enters the conversation at QB5 for me.
He enters the conversation at QB5 for me.
Re: Where are we ranking stroud now?
As someone who traded away Herbert ( and AJ Dillon technically) earlier this year for Stroud and 2 firsts (1QB), I am pleased to hear this.
Team One:
Year 12
12 team, .5 ppr
QB 2RB 3WR TE FLEX K DL LB DB
QB - CJ Stroud
RB - Tank Bigsby, Sean Tucker, Chris Rodriguez, cans
WR - Garrett Wilson, Drake London, JSN, Jahan Dotson, Demario Douglas
TE - Kyle Pitts, Cade Otton, Chig Okonkwo
2024 Picks: 1.1, 1.2, 1.9, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 3.2, 3.7, 4.1, 4.10
2025 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4
Team Two:
Year 2
12 team, .5 ppr, SF
QB SF 2RB 3WR TE 2FLEX K
QB - Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones
RB - Roschon Johnson, Kendre Miller, cans
WR - Amon-Ra St. Brown, Chris Olave, Jaylen Waddle, Jordan Addison, Jahan Dotson, Demario Douglas, Elijah Moore, Wan’Dale Robinson
TE - Kyle Pitts, Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Chig
2024 Picks: 1.08, 1.12, 2.11, 4.1, 4.11
2025 Picks 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4
Year 12
12 team, .5 ppr
QB 2RB 3WR TE FLEX K DL LB DB
QB - CJ Stroud
RB - Tank Bigsby, Sean Tucker, Chris Rodriguez, cans
WR - Garrett Wilson, Drake London, JSN, Jahan Dotson, Demario Douglas
TE - Kyle Pitts, Cade Otton, Chig Okonkwo
2024 Picks: 1.1, 1.2, 1.9, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 3.2, 3.7, 4.1, 4.10
2025 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4
Team Two:
Year 2
12 team, .5 ppr, SF
QB SF 2RB 3WR TE 2FLEX K
QB - Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones
RB - Roschon Johnson, Kendre Miller, cans
WR - Amon-Ra St. Brown, Chris Olave, Jaylen Waddle, Jordan Addison, Jahan Dotson, Demario Douglas, Elijah Moore, Wan’Dale Robinson
TE - Kyle Pitts, Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Chig
2024 Picks: 1.08, 1.12, 2.11, 4.1, 4.11
2025 Picks 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4
Re: Where are we ranking stroud now?
That's going to look like highway robbery in a few months. Wow, what a great trade for you!!
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
Re: Where are we ranking stroud now?
Why in a few months?Anteaters wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:51 amThat's going to look like highway robbery in a few months. Wow, what a great trade for you!!
Haven't you already declared Stroud > Herbert?
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