Difference between Fields and Mahomes
Difference between Fields and Mahomes
Superflex. What’s the value difference in picks as of today?
Re: Difference between Fields and Mahomes
A lot. It would take the 1.01 plus another pretty nice piece to downgrade from the best asset in SF to Fields. I still wouldn't do it.
Re: Difference between Fields and Mahomes
Am I crazy for thinking 1.08 + 2 future 1st gets it done?
Re: Difference between Fields and Mahomes
Sign me up. Unless I am a good team
12 Team, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1Flex, D, K, 10 Bench
1PPR, 0.5 point per carry.
Burrow, Richardson
AJ Brown, DJMoore, G Wilson, T Higgens, Sutton, Tillman, Melton
King Henry, Bijan, Pacheco, Mixon, Ford, JK
Hockenson, Musgrave
Random Kicker
Niners
Picks in 2024 - #15, #22, #23, #27
1PPR, 0.5 point per carry.
Burrow, Richardson
AJ Brown, DJMoore, G Wilson, T Higgens, Sutton, Tillman, Melton
King Henry, Bijan, Pacheco, Mixon, Ford, JK
Hockenson, Musgrave
Random Kicker
Niners
Picks in 2024 - #15, #22, #23, #27
-
- All Pro
- Posts: 1532
- Joined: Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:44 am
Re: Difference between Fields and Mahomes
The ability to actually throw the football.
-
- Legend
- Posts: 6519
- Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:13 pm
Re: Difference between Fields and Mahomes
Probably. Fields isn’t really even established as the long term starter yet. He could be out of a job by the end of the year. It’s worse than where Hurts was before breaking out and you were getting maybe a second in value for Hurts. I’d want an earlier pick than 1.08 and those extra firsts would have to have some upside.
All I Der Is Win - 16 Team IDP League (Pass TD 6pts)
QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker
QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker
-
- Legend
- Posts: 5064
- Joined: Sun May 03, 2015 11:28 pm
Re: Difference between Fields and Mahomes
So Justin Fields and 3 Jordan Addisons? I’ll pass on that.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
-
- GOAT
- Posts: 27652
- Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:03 am
Re: Difference between Fields and Mahomes
I couldn't imagine what it would take. Mahomes is elite and soooo safe. Super high floor and ceiling. Fields in on a 1 year trial, and if he doesn't play well this year, and the Bears have an early first, and another first, good chance they hit reset. Fields was inherited. They gave him upgrades, so it's a sink or swim season.
I wouldn't even consider moving off of Mahomes for Fields plus, the drop off is too great, and way too risky at the QB position, that all the other pieces wouldn't matter if Fields doesn't improve and become a long term starter.
I wouldn't even consider moving off of Mahomes for Fields plus, the drop off is too great, and way too risky at the QB position, that all the other pieces wouldn't matter if Fields doesn't improve and become a long term starter.
Janiel Dones Truther
Foodie. Well done steak goes in the trash.
Habaneros make the best tasting hot sauce. Throwing a bunch of random stuff on top of fries doesn't mean you call it "poutine".
Foodie. Well done steak goes in the trash.
Habaneros make the best tasting hot sauce. Throwing a bunch of random stuff on top of fries doesn't mean you call it "poutine".
Re: Difference between Fields and Mahomes
Post of the Day!
The Clock is Running and there are no Timeouts
-
- MVP
- Posts: 2594
- Joined: Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:09 pm
Re: Difference between Fields and Mahomes
Fast as fock tho!SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:46 pmSo Justin Fields and 3 Jordan Addisons? I’ll pass on that.
-
- Role Player
- Posts: 321
- Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:00 pm
Re: Difference between Fields and Mahomes
Do you have a Fields < a 2nd round pick in value or am I reading this wrong?ericanadian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:26 pmProbably. Fields isn’t really even established as the long term starter yet. He could be out of a job by the end of the year. It’s worse than where Hurts was before breaking out and you were getting maybe a second in value for Hurts. I’d want an earlier pick than 1.08 and those extra firsts would have to have some upside.
On Fields vs Mahomes: This is at least a 2-tier drop, possibly 3-4. Fields could not be the cornerstone of an offer for Mahomes. Possibly something like Chase + Fields for Mahomes could get a conversation started in SF.
2021 Startup
Superflex – PPR - TE Premium (1.5 PPR) – 12 Team
1 QB, 3 WR, 2 RB, 1 TE, 1 SF, 1 Flex
QB: J Allen, J Fields, D Jones, W Levis, S Darnold
RB: B Hall, K Walker, T Etienne, R Johnson, D Foreman, J McLaughlin, E Demercado
WR: ARSB, G Wilson, DK Metcalf, B Aiyuk, T Higgins, C Godwin, J Williams, R Bateman
TE: K Pitts, D Goedert, L Musgrave
2024: 1.03, 2.03, 3.11
2025: 1-3-4-4-5
Superflex – PPR - TE Premium (1.5 PPR) – 12 Team
1 QB, 3 WR, 2 RB, 1 TE, 1 SF, 1 Flex
QB: J Allen, J Fields, D Jones, W Levis, S Darnold
RB: B Hall, K Walker, T Etienne, R Johnson, D Foreman, J McLaughlin, E Demercado
WR: ARSB, G Wilson, DK Metcalf, B Aiyuk, T Higgins, C Godwin, J Williams, R Bateman
TE: K Pitts, D Goedert, L Musgrave
2024: 1.03, 2.03, 3.11
2025: 1-3-4-4-5
Re: Difference between Fields and Mahomes
I see no point in continuing to read replies in this post. This closes the argument appropriately.
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts
-
- Legend
- Posts: 5064
- Joined: Sun May 03, 2015 11:28 pm
Re: Difference between Fields and Mahomes
What closes the gap from one of the, if not THE, most talent qb to ever play the game and a guy that runs fast?
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
-
- Legend
- Posts: 6519
- Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:13 pm
Re: Difference between Fields and Mahomes
No, he’s definitely worth a second. Probably a later one than what people were getting for hurts before his breakout, though.oneson9192 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:37 amDo you have a Fields < a 2nd round pick in value or am I reading this wrong?ericanadian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:26 pmProbably. Fields isn’t really even established as the long term starter yet. He could be out of a job by the end of the year. It’s worse than where Hurts was before breaking out and you were getting maybe a second in value for Hurts. I’d want an earlier pick than 1.08 and those extra firsts would have to have some upside.
On Fields vs Mahomes: This is at least a 2-tier drop, possibly 3-4. Fields could not be the cornerstone of an offer for Mahomes. Possibly something like Chase + Fields for Mahomes could get a conversation started in SF.
All I Der Is Win - 16 Team IDP League (Pass TD 6pts)
QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker
QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker
Re: Difference between Fields and Mahomes
I believe the OP asked about SF, where even Fields haters agree he's worth more than a 2nd.ericanadian wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:47 amNo, he’s definitely worth a second. Probably a later one than what people were getting for hurts before his breakout, though.oneson9192 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:37 amDo you have a Fields < a 2nd round pick in value or am I reading this wrong?ericanadian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:26 pm
Probably. Fields isn’t really even established as the long term starter yet. He could be out of a job by the end of the year. It’s worse than where Hurts was before breaking out and you were getting maybe a second in value for Hurts. I’d want an earlier pick than 1.08 and those extra firsts would have to have some upside.
On Fields vs Mahomes: This is at least a 2-tier drop, possibly 3-4. Fields could not be the cornerstone of an offer for Mahomes. Possibly something like Chase + Fields for Mahomes could get a conversation started in SF.
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: Ahrefs [Bot] and 4 guests