Yo guys, I'm struggling with the value for Murray in Superflex leagues, seems like people say I would be sellig low but even the calculator on this says I'm winning.
.Chark, D.Samuel, the1.02, 1.11 and next year 1st? Are these still well off?
Murray value?
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Re: Murray value?
That's a hard one. Definitely getting some talent back, are you super deep at QB that you can afford to give up one of the best QBs in the game? IF I moved him (would be hard to do as I don't think we've seen his best) I'd definitely want the kind of return you suggested...if not more.
Re: Murray value?
It's a reasonable offer, but without seeing your team it's hard to say. I lean no just on the assumption you dont have 2 other top end QBs.
Re: Murray value?
how about d.watson and the 1.02 straight up?
Re: Murray value?
Came back at him, asked for D.Watson. Chark, 1.02 and 1.11 for him
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Re: Murray value?
If I remember from previous posts, the league you’re looking at dealing Murray in is a 16 team SF, correct? There’s pretty much no other widely-used league format (other than a 16 team strict 2QB) where QBs carry more value relative to picks and other position groups because at 16 teams, you are theoretically tapping out every starting QB in the NFL, or having some guys in the league playing non-QBs in the SF spot rather than a bottom barrel QB.
That said, I would view Kyler as a borderline top 5 asset in this format, depending on where you have him among the tier 1B QBs (I’d qualify Mahomes as tier 1A based on his contract and offense). That said, I have Watson and Murray in the same tier, so if you can get something significant back along with Watson I think that’s a big W.
I think Watson/1.02 is a smash accept! I’d be afraid that if you counter with Watson/1.02/1.11/Chark he may laugh it off and pull the offer, that’s way too far the other way, IMO.
That said, I would view Kyler as a borderline top 5 asset in this format, depending on where you have him among the tier 1B QBs (I’d qualify Mahomes as tier 1A based on his contract and offense). That said, I have Watson and Murray in the same tier, so if you can get something significant back along with Watson I think that’s a big W.
I think Watson/1.02 is a smash accept! I’d be afraid that if you counter with Watson/1.02/1.11/Chark he may laugh it off and pull the offer, that’s way too far the other way, IMO.
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**IDP scoring is TKL heavy (1.0 solo and asst), no QBH or TFL.**
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Re: Murray value?
I would move Murray for Watson and the 1.02 immediately. That's a smash accept for me. Watson is arguably a better quarterback, and you're getting the 1.02. "Easy peasy lemon squeezy" as my daughter would say.
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Re: Murray value?
Watson and 1.02 is a smash accept IMO. Watson and Murray are so close in value.
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1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex
Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year
Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF
Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon
Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts
Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex
Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year
Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF
Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon
Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts
Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts
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