Protocol to shift from 1QB to 2QB How many seasons of warning?

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Protocol to shift from 1QB to 2QB How many seasons of warning?

Postby zoster80 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:13 pm

A league I commish suddenly wants to move to 2QB league. I mentioned that one year(starting 2019-20) is pretty soon and that such a major rule should be 2 years so start the 2020-21 season.

Reason being is that many QB's were moved this offseason, not knowing this may implemented, so just one season is too short to add a QB to the starting lineup.

What is the consensus, how much time have other leagues taken to make the transition?
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RB: CMC, Hall, K Walker, Swift, M Sanders M Carter, K Gainwell, CEH, Hunt, C Evans, E Wilson, P Taylor, D Johnson,
WR: DJM, Metcalf, AJ Brown, Hopkins, M Gallup, Chark, T Scott, P Washington, G Dortch, J Watson, R Woods
TE: M Andrews, Fant , Hudson, Higbee, L Thomas, J Johnson,
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Re: Protocol to shift from 1QB to 2QB How many seasons of warning?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:15 pm

2-3 years minimum, although I'd recommend just starting a new league from scratch at that point in time rather than transitioning rosters.
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Re: Protocol to shift from 1QB to 2QB How many seasons of warning?

Postby Phaded » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:20 pm

Yeah with such a dramatic change you are better off with a new league.

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Re: Protocol to shift from 1QB to 2QB How many seasons of warning?

Postby Cult of Dionysus » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:21 pm

In DLF Premium League, we are actually just talking about this issue. And we are thinking at least 5 years. There's a lot of guys who are very much on the fence, and by pushing the date out 5 years, I'm hoping some of them will come around.

You can look at the actual disussion ehre: http://www57.myfantasyleague.com/2018/m ... id=5187688

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Re: Protocol to shift from 1QB to 2QB How many seasons of warning?

Postby hockeyBjj » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:58 pm

2 years sounds good to me. 1 is completely unfair. 3 would also be just fine, maybe something like add a flex spot year 2 then year 3 its a superflex
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Re: Protocol to shift from 1QB to 2QB How many seasons of warning?

Postby _yeti » Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:19 pm

Not fair. I don't think that a league should transition from 1QB to 2QB. It provides a massive difference in valuation and it is unfair to give a major bonus to some teams or expect other teams to play catch up in the hopes of keeping up with a rule change. Even with notice, everyone will be avoiding dealing QBs at 1QB rates
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Re: Protocol to shift from 1QB to 2QB How many seasons of warning?

Postby petebusey » Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:41 pm

To be fair.... I would think at least 5 years, if not more in the 7-8 years range.
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Re: Protocol to shift from 1QB to 2QB How many seasons of warning?

Postby bigchiefbc » Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:43 pm

My home league transitioned from 1QB to Superflex in 2 years, and it seemed totally fair to me.

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Re: Protocol to shift from 1QB to 2QB How many seasons of warning?

Postby jordanzs » Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:53 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:15 pm 2-3 years minimum, although I'd recommend just starting a new league from scratch at that point in time rather than transitioning rosters.
This would be my answer. Unless guys want to unwind every QB trade starting from the end of week 16 last year.

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Re: Protocol to shift from 1QB to 2QB How many seasons of warning?

Postby Jason3123 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:07 pm

bigchiefbc wrote: Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:43 pm My home league transitioned from 1QB to Superflex in 2 years, and it seemed totally fair to me.
This. If it's a "DLF/Twitter" based league, then maybe go farther out. My home league, which is mixed with a couple die hards and some casuals, made it 2 years out, and it barely affected people's perception of QB's. They're still not valued the same although they're starting to climb. For reference, Baker went #10 in our draft yesterday.

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Re: Protocol to shift from 1QB to 2QB How many seasons of warning?

Postby thebeast » Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:11 pm

Either start a new league or redraft the league. Doesn’t matter how much notice you give, once
You announce the decision QB values change. They’ve probably changed just talking about it. 5 years as someone else mentioned is ridiculous. I would quit a league that was planning on such a transition five years from now.

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Re: Protocol to shift from 1QB to 2QB How many seasons of warning?

Postby Cult of Dionysus » Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:54 pm

lol.

Anyone who thinks five years is ridiculous, is themselves ridiculous.

The value shift would be minimal, if the window is so far out. To suggest otherwise, is "ridiculous." One year, yes. Two, sure. Three, maybe. But five! Five!

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Re: Protocol to shift from 1QB to 2QB How many seasons of warning?

Postby DynastyDeepDive » Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:55 pm

petebusey wrote: Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:41 pm To be fair.... I would think at least 5 years, if not more in the 7-8 years range.
are you nuts? 7-8 years?

Our league decided before last years draft that we would change this year. Everyone already had 3 qb's and was fine with it. No issues.
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Re: Protocol to shift from 1QB to 2QB How many seasons of warning?

Postby thebeast » Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:50 pm

Cult of Dionysus wrote: Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:54 pm lol.

Anyone who thinks five years is ridiculous, is themselves ridiculous.

The value shift would be minimal, if the window is so far out. To suggest otherwise, is "ridiculous." One year, yes. Two, sure. Three, maybe. But five! Five!

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You’re going to make a change to a league in 5 years? Really? Stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.

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Re: Protocol to shift from 1QB to 2QB How many seasons of warning?

Postby Pullo Vision » Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:00 pm

hockeyBjj wrote: Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:58 pm 2 years sounds good to me. 1 is completely unfair. 3 would also be just fine, maybe something like add a flex spot year 2 then year 3 its a superflex
I like this idea of using superflex as a stepping stone. 2 years seems appropriate. I commished a league some years ago where we added a (non QB) flex, made it take affect 2 years in the future.
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