Josh Gordon Thread: Reinstatement (Deja Vu)

[GoodellsPaycheck]

Exactly! If you have a deep enough bench he is worth a stash. If the dude comes back this year at age 26 then by this time next year if he prepares well he can go back to being a tier 1 WR.

The fact that this is even still a thought for people is hilarious.

At this point, it doesn't even matter how many times he gets suspended. Gordon could be 30, and some will be like "Hey, he posted that WR1 season way back when. The upside is still there!"

This logic is so weak. He's not 30, he's 26. 26 with much less NFL miles/wear n tear than the average 26 year old NFL player.

In redrafts, I get that he's probably not worth the roster spot. But in Dynasty, especially a 16-team league like I'm in, his upside trumps most if not all that's left on the waiver wire. He at least sounds like he's actively trying to make it back into the league. If he botches it this time, we will have our final answer and can wipe our hands clean of him. If he manages to come back, then anyone in dynasty who took that small risk of rostering him for the 1st few weeks of the season now has a potential WR1 who never relies on work ethic, but has god given talent that can just show up and be better than 75% of the pro athletes he shares the field with.

If you wanna be that guy standing on the sidelines telling everyone "I told you so" should he get denied reinstatement, go right ahead, your gain is 0. But for those that choose to take the small risk for the high reward, if he comes back then your chances of winning the league just got severely cut down.

[dm1129]

These Gordon naysayers are way too quick to quit on a guy. Let me guess, the next thing you're going to say is Blackmon shouldn't be rostered?

[Balzac]

These Gordon naysayers are way too quick to quit on a guy. Let me guess, the next thing you're going to say is Blackmon shouldn't be rostered?

Different story all together.

[The Red Rooster]

Not to mention, he will have absolutely zero chemistry with his QB and likely played with very few of the existing starters at all when he last played.

I will take Gordon on my roster over T Sharpe right now. Just saying.

This all comes down to roster size. If you have smaller rosters, I agree, he should not be on there. But if you have large rosters, he's not the worse end of the bench stash. Its all relative to your league size and roster size though.

[Reljac]

I don't disagree with you in deep leagues that roster a ton. Then again, I'm not sure what league rostering Tajae Sharpe is much of a good move anymore.

[The Red Rooster]

I don't disagree with you in deep leagues that roster a ton. Then again, I'm not sure what league rostering Tajae Sharpe is much of a good move anymore.

I only mentioned him because hes listed on the team in your sig.

[Reljac]

I don't disagree with you in deep leagues that roster a ton. Then again, I'm not sure what league rostering Tajae Sharpe is much of a good move anymore.

I only mentioned him because hes listed on the team in your sig.

yes, I haven't updated my offseason roster cuts, but he is no longer on my team.

[dm1129]

These Gordon naysayers are way too quick to quit on a guy. Let me guess, the next thing you're going to say is Blackmon shouldn't be rostered?

Different story all together.

At this point, it really isn't. That is exactly the reason I posted that. Even though Gordon played 5 games in 2014, he essentially has not been in the NFL for three years. I owned Gordon and defended him for quite some time. However it is now abundantly clear he has far more serious demons that some owners still seem to realize. There honestly is no objective reason to expect he will ever approach his 2013 form again which is what the believers are still hoping for even if they claim differently publicly. He has literally given every reason to expect the opposite.

[GoodellsPaycheck]

These Gordon naysayers are way too quick to quit on a guy. Let me guess, the next thing you're going to say is Blackmon shouldn't be rostered?

Different story all together.

At this point, it really isn't. That is exactly the reason I posted that. Even though Gordon played 5 games in 2014, he essentially has not been in the NFL for three years. I owned Gordon and defended him for quite some time. However it is now abundantly clear he has far more serious demons that some owners still seem to realize. There honestly is no objective reason to expect he will ever approach his 2013 form again which is what the believers are still hoping for even if they claim differently publicly. He has literally given every reason to expect the opposite.

Just 1 year ago he looked great in the preseason and showed flashes of his old self. This isn't 3 years ago since we've seen him in action. I understand the odds are strongly against him, but will the minimal risk and such large upside, it'd be stupid not to take the chance on him depending on your league and situation

Blackmon is gone, long gone. Gordon is at least looking like he's trying to make a comeback to the league. That's the difference

[dm1129]

Different story all together.

At this point, it really isn't. That is exactly the reason I posted that. Even though Gordon played 5 games in 2014, he essentially has not been in the NFL for three years. I owned Gordon and defended him for quite some time. However it is now abundantly clear he has far more serious demons that some owners still seem to realize. There honestly is no objective reason to expect he will ever approach his 2013 form again which is what the believers are still hoping for even if they claim differently publicly. He has literally given every reason to expect the opposite.

Just 1 year ago he looked great in the preseason and showed flashes of his old self. This isn't 3 years ago since we've seen him in action. I understand the odds are strongly against him, but will the minimal risk and such large upside, it'd be stupid not to take the chance on him depending on your league and situation

Blackmon is gone, long gone. Gordon is at least looking like he's trying to make a comeback to the league. That's the difference

I guess the believers will see what they want to see...

Yeah, for three years he has been 'trying'.....

Even if reinstated, the odds of him not running into trouble again are very low. The owners that still have him are simply not willing to accept reality and want to show the world he was worth holding all this time...haha.

[Slackalacker]

At this point, it really isn't. That is exactly the reason I posted that. Even though Gordon played 5 games in 2014, he essentially has not been in the NFL for three years. I owned Gordon and defended him for quite some time. However it is now abundantly clear he has far more serious demons that some owners still seem to realize. There honestly is no objective reason to expect he will ever approach his 2013 form again which is what the believers are still hoping for even if they claim differently publicly. He has literally given every reason to expect the opposite.

Just 1 year ago he looked great in the preseason and showed flashes of his old self. This isn't 3 years ago since we've seen him in action. I understand the odds are strongly against him, but will the minimal risk and such large upside, it'd be stupid not to take the chance on him depending on your league and situation

Blackmon is gone, long gone. Gordon is at least looking like he's trying to make a comeback to the league. That's the difference

I guess the believers will see what they want to see...

Yeah, for three years he has been 'trying'.....

Even if reinstated, the odds of him not running into trouble again are very low. The owners that still have him are simply not willing to accept reality and want to show the world he was worth holding all this time...haha.

I'm much rather stashing Gordon on the end of my 25 man roster than other longshots. The dude has talent that is rarely seen in the NFL, and at his age it's not beyond thinking that he can regain his form, and maybe be even BETTER in a year or two.

Yeah there's a chance he doesn't get reinstated, or does and gets another suspension. But at 26 he could get reinstated, get a year of conditioning, and produce as a top talent from age 27-31. Even half a season of him producing at WR2 numbers is worth the deep stash.

No I wouldn't consider him in a shallow roster league but when you're rostering over 300 offensive players as a league there's no reason not to have him somewhere.

[Reljac]

Doesn't your signature show you as owning him in a shallow league of only 168 rostered players?

[slaughterrt]

I'm still holding out hope that Aaron Hernandez comes back from the grave and posts his previous numbers from years ago...

[dynastyninja]

I'd say there's a 15-20% change Gordon is relevant in the NFL again. Don't own him anywhere, but I can't blame people for giving him a shot.

[Slackalacker]

Doesn't your signature show you as owning him in a shallow league of only 168 rostered players?

It sure does.

Also note it says he is in my IR in a 2 man keeper league. Who else are you putting there? Nobody who I'd keep next year over AB.