Jameis Winston value in 2QB leagues?
Jameis Winston value in 2QB leagues?
What rookie pick would you use on Winston in a 2QB league? I have a very solid WR core and unless Gurley falls to the 1.02, I think i will take Winston there.
Re: Jameis Winston value in 2QB leagues?
Unless I had a stud duo then id take Winston at 1.01
16 team, PPR, 45 man rosters, all TDs 6 pts
start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 dt, 2 de, 3 lb, 2 cb, 2 s, 1 non qb flex
QB - Winston, Sieman, Joshua Dobbs
RB - Martin, M. Gordon, Howard, R. Burkhead, Langford, C. Sims, Kapri Bibbs, W. Gallman
WR - ARob, Jordy, A. Jeffery, E. Sanders, Agholor, B. Ellington, C. Peake, Krishawn Hogan, Ryan Grant
TE - Ebron, Tye, G. Everett
DT - A. Donald, C. Baker
DE - Z. Ansah, D. Buckner, C. Wake, T. Flowers, V. Curry
LB - D. Johnson, K. Mack, C. Kirskey, Kwaitkowski, G. Hodges, Jaylon Smith,
CB - J. Bradbury, A. Bouye, D. Butler,
S - J. Addae, K. Neal, Geathers, Sua Cravens
start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 dt, 2 de, 3 lb, 2 cb, 2 s, 1 non qb flex
QB - Winston, Sieman, Joshua Dobbs
RB - Martin, M. Gordon, Howard, R. Burkhead, Langford, C. Sims, Kapri Bibbs, W. Gallman
WR - ARob, Jordy, A. Jeffery, E. Sanders, Agholor, B. Ellington, C. Peake, Krishawn Hogan, Ryan Grant
TE - Ebron, Tye, G. Everett
DT - A. Donald, C. Baker
DE - Z. Ansah, D. Buckner, C. Wake, T. Flowers, V. Curry
LB - D. Johnson, K. Mack, C. Kirskey, Kwaitkowski, G. Hodges, Jaylon Smith,
CB - J. Bradbury, A. Bouye, D. Butler,
S - J. Addae, K. Neal, Geathers, Sua Cravens
Re: Jameis Winston value in 2QB leagues?
Mandatory 2 QB he is 1.01 for me. Superflex you get into the positional debate, but he makes it to Top 5 for me.
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Re: Jameis Winston value in 2QB leagues?
Undeniably, he and Mariota join the big-4. And I'd need a very compelling reason (or three) not to draft him #1.
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RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
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WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
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12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
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Re: Jameis Winston value in 2QB leagues?
I have a pretty stud duo in Wilson and Brees but not much behind them. My rb situation is far worse. Hyde is my only starter but I'm just not sold on Gordon to take him at the 1.02 and my wr's are already top of the league.MaverickIW771 wrote:Unless I had a stud duo then id take Winston at 1.01
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Re: Jameis Winston value in 2QB leagues?
I'm pretty much locked in on taking him at 1.01 myself. I think if you need a QB, he's going to be worth the pick. The value of young QBs usually retains at a higher bottom floor for much longer, so I think it's both the safest pick and potentially the highest value pick for 2 QB leagues.
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Re: Jameis Winston value in 2QB leagues?
brees being old means draft winston and you can have him waiting in the wings. or you trade back from 1.1, pick up rb help but you gotta stay in the top 6 imo. big drop off in 2qb leagues after 1.6Lssd2012 wrote:I have a pretty stud duo in Wilson and Brees but not much behind them. My rb situation is far worse. Hyde is my only starter but I'm just not sold on Gordon to take him at the 1.02 and my wr's are already top of the league.MaverickIW771 wrote:Unless I had a stud duo then id take Winston at 1.01
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Re: Jameis Winston value in 2QB leagues?
you have the right idea, but i think the rb depth in this draft pushes it back to the 10 range, depending on how you feel about everyone. if you could move 1.2 for three top 10's, i would do so. i also feel winson would be a great pick at 2, especially if its a must start 2 and owning brees. im not sure i would take two 1st's unless one was in the top 4.winston is not luck, but the best prospect since him imo. your just taking the risk of the off the field stuff.knotts4372 wrote:brees being old means draft winston and you can have him waiting in the wings. or you trade back from 1.1, pick up rb help but you gotta stay in the top 6 imo. big drop off in 2qb leagues after 1.6Lssd2012 wrote:I have a pretty stud duo in Wilson and Brees but not much behind them. My rb situation is far worse. Hyde is my only starter but I'm just not sold on Gordon to take him at the 1.02 and my wr's are already top of the league.MaverickIW771 wrote:Unless I had a stud duo then id take Winston at 1.01
Re: Jameis Winston value in 2QB leagues?
I'd still take him because of Brees age and their offseason seems to pushing the saints to more of a ball control offense. Brees won't be chucking it 700 times anymore. Additionally, if Winston flops you still have Brees and if he takes off like I believe he will then go ahead and use Brees for trade bait next yearLssd2012 wrote:I have a pretty stud duo in Wilson and Brees but not much behind them. My rb situation is far worse. Hyde is my only starter but I'm just not sold on Gordon to take him at the 1.02 and my wr's are already top of the league.MaverickIW771 wrote:Unless I had a stud duo then id take Winston at 1.01
16 team, PPR, 45 man rosters, all TDs 6 pts
start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 dt, 2 de, 3 lb, 2 cb, 2 s, 1 non qb flex
QB - Winston, Sieman, Joshua Dobbs
RB - Martin, M. Gordon, Howard, R. Burkhead, Langford, C. Sims, Kapri Bibbs, W. Gallman
WR - ARob, Jordy, A. Jeffery, E. Sanders, Agholor, B. Ellington, C. Peake, Krishawn Hogan, Ryan Grant
TE - Ebron, Tye, G. Everett
DT - A. Donald, C. Baker
DE - Z. Ansah, D. Buckner, C. Wake, T. Flowers, V. Curry
LB - D. Johnson, K. Mack, C. Kirskey, Kwaitkowski, G. Hodges, Jaylon Smith,
CB - J. Bradbury, A. Bouye, D. Butler,
S - J. Addae, K. Neal, Geathers, Sua Cravens
start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 dt, 2 de, 3 lb, 2 cb, 2 s, 1 non qb flex
QB - Winston, Sieman, Joshua Dobbs
RB - Martin, M. Gordon, Howard, R. Burkhead, Langford, C. Sims, Kapri Bibbs, W. Gallman
WR - ARob, Jordy, A. Jeffery, E. Sanders, Agholor, B. Ellington, C. Peake, Krishawn Hogan, Ryan Grant
TE - Ebron, Tye, G. Everett
DT - A. Donald, C. Baker
DE - Z. Ansah, D. Buckner, C. Wake, T. Flowers, V. Curry
LB - D. Johnson, K. Mack, C. Kirskey, Kwaitkowski, G. Hodges, Jaylon Smith,
CB - J. Bradbury, A. Bouye, D. Butler,
S - J. Addae, K. Neal, Geathers, Sua Cravens
Re: Jameis Winston value in 2QB leagues?
Would Mariota merit a 1.2 if Winston does go 1.1?
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QB: Cam Newton - Marcus Mariota - Jameis Winston - Jimmy Garroppolo - Patrick Mahomes
RB: David Johnson - Devonta Freeman - Jay Ajayi - Marshawn Lynch
WR: DeAndre Hopkins - Michael Thomas - AJ Green - Amari Cooper - Allen Robinson - Michael Crabtree -
TE: Greg Olsen - David Njoku
10 Team Dynasty - Full PPR - Start QB - 2RB - 2WR - 2FLEX - 1TE
QB: Cam Newton - Matthew Stafford - Jameis Winston - Jimmy Garroppolo
RB: Todd Gurley - Jordan Howard - Dalvin Cook - Kenyan Drake - Jerrick McKinnon
WR: Dez Bryant - Julio Jones - Antonio Brown - Odell Beckham Jr. - DaVante Parker - Larry Fitzgerald - Josh Doctson
TE: Greg Olsen
QB: Cam Newton - Marcus Mariota - Jameis Winston - Jimmy Garroppolo - Patrick Mahomes
RB: David Johnson - Devonta Freeman - Jay Ajayi - Marshawn Lynch
WR: DeAndre Hopkins - Michael Thomas - AJ Green - Amari Cooper - Allen Robinson - Michael Crabtree -
TE: Greg Olsen - David Njoku
10 Team Dynasty - Full PPR - Start QB - 2RB - 2WR - 2FLEX - 1TE
QB: Cam Newton - Matthew Stafford - Jameis Winston - Jimmy Garroppolo
RB: Todd Gurley - Jordan Howard - Dalvin Cook - Kenyan Drake - Jerrick McKinnon
WR: Dez Bryant - Julio Jones - Antonio Brown - Odell Beckham Jr. - DaVante Parker - Larry Fitzgerald - Josh Doctson
TE: Greg Olsen
Re: Jameis Winston value in 2QB leagues?
unless the eagles get him I really wouldn't feel happy about taking mariota at 2...I would look at Gurley or a WR or a trade down to 5 or 6 in that scenario.chee13 wrote:Would Mariota merit a 1.2 if Winston does go 1.1?
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Re: Jameis Winston value in 2QB leagues?
I agree. I'm currently staying away from Mariota with my 1.02/04. Unless I can get Winston there, I'm going WR/RB.joeday wrote:unless the eagles get him I really wouldn't feel happy about taking mariota at 2...I would look at Gurley or a WR or a trade down to 5 or 6 in that scenario.chee13 wrote:Would Mariota merit a 1.2 if Winston does go 1.1?
12-man Superflex, 1-2-3-1-2FLEX-1OP-1K-1DST:
QB: Flacco, Carr, Winston, Glennon, Thomas
RB: McCoy, Ingram, Anderson, Mason, Abdullah, David J, Ball, Hillman, Khiry
WR: K Allen, A Robinson, Cooper, Perriman, Hunter, Marlon B, Bailey, K Bell, Dobson, Waller
TE: Eifert, Ebron, ASJ, Housler,
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QB: Tannehill, Carr, Hoyer, Cassel, Hundley
RB: Ingram, J Bell, David J, Sproles, Woodhead, R Williams, Carey
WR: Hilton, Maclin, M Bryant, Stills, M Lee, R Randle, Marlon B, Stevie J, Campanaro, Street
TE: Bennett, Fleener
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RB: McCoy, Ingram, Anderson, Mason, Abdullah, David J, Ball, Hillman, Khiry
WR: K Allen, A Robinson, Cooper, Perriman, Hunter, Marlon B, Bailey, K Bell, Dobson, Waller
TE: Eifert, Ebron, ASJ, Housler,
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QB: Tannehill, Carr, Hoyer, Cassel, Hundley
RB: Ingram, J Bell, David J, Sproles, Woodhead, R Williams, Carey
WR: Hilton, Maclin, M Bryant, Stills, M Lee, R Randle, Marlon B, Stevie J, Campanaro, Street
TE: Bennett, Fleener
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Re: Jameis Winston value in 2QB leagues?
The difference between even a start 2 and Superflex is pretty big. Start 2 QB and Mariota is in the Top 4 for me given that he will be taken high enough to get lots of rope by the franchise and viewed as a long-term option. There are only 2 people for that in this class, with more confidence than many past highly drafted QB options like Geno, EJ, Locker, Ponder, Gabbert, Weeden, etc. who were perceived reaches even at the time.
In Superflex he is Top 7 right now, before knowing landing spots, with Cooper/White/Parker/Gordon/Gurley/Winston. Team need could push people around/down, but this is likely the bunch in those formats as top 7.
In Superflex he is Top 7 right now, before knowing landing spots, with Cooper/White/Parker/Gordon/Gurley/Winston. Team need could push people around/down, but this is likely the bunch in those formats as top 7.
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In the 2 QB mocks I've been doing none have went higher than 1.05.
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Re: Jameis Winston value in 2QB leagues?
in 2QB leagues (as distinct from superflex) any rookie QB with a reasonable chance at being an NFL starter acquires incredible value.
given the prospect and the likely NFL team involved, i think the 1.01 is perfectly reasonable here.
given the prospect and the likely NFL team involved, i think the 1.01 is perfectly reasonable here.
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