Gronk on Jimmy Kimmel

[georgetown]

http://youtu.be/zMjW-l8mYBk

This makes me want to trade whatever I can for him to have him on my team. He's easily my favorite player and I'm not even a Patriots fan.

Buuuuuuuuut the owner who has him said he wants Luck. So it probably won't happen.

The only thought that makes me think I could pull it off? In all of my games, the difference between Luck and Cutler wouldn't have changed the outcome of the matchup. I would've had the same record either way.

Anyone else feel this way?

[DonBrazi]

http://youtu.be/zMjW-l8mYBk

This makes me want to trade whatever I can for him to have him on my team. He's easily my favorite player and I'm not even a Patriots fan.

Anyone else feel this way?

Ha! Makes me feel the exact opposite way. I hate how...slow he is (sorry if that's mean or rude or whatever but I don't know the current PC word for it). Makes me uncomfortable watching him.

[Titus Young's Lawyer]

I would trade Luck for Gronk in a 12-team 1QB league. I feel sorry for any drug/booze/woman that encountered Gronk recently #GronkSmash

[auggiedoggies]

In a 12 team league, I would trade Luck for Gronk in a heartbeat

[Matticus]

QBs aren't super important in a 12 team, but the 6 pt per passing TD makes me want to hold Luck...

If I did do the deal (which I probably would in the end), I would see if I could package some of those picks you have for another dominate QB. Or if you like one of Winston/Mariota pull the trigger on one of those guys.

[clarion contrarion]

http://youtu.be/zMjW-l8mYBk

This makes me want to trade whatever I can for him to have him on my team. He's easily my favorite player and I'm not even a Patriots fan.

Anyone else feel this way?

Ha! Makes me feel the exact opposite way. I hate how...slow he is (sorry if that's mean or rude or whatever but I don't know the current PC word for it). Makes me uncomfortable watching him.

I think the word yer looking for is HIGH ... really really high but he isn't josh gordon so it is allowed

[georgetown]

Whoa really? Is it that big of a no brainer to trade Luck for Gronk? Can we just switch up the convo and just focus on that idea? I've seen people say Luck should go #1 in startups.

[clarion contrarion]

no way I trade luck for gronk or any other single player
luck will pile up the numbers for another decade minimum
what is gronk's window as an elite huge advantage 3- 4 years tops add in his extensive injury history and style of play
no thanks

[Matticus]

Whoa really? Is it that big of a no brainer to trade Luck for Gronk? Can we just switch up the convo and just focus on that idea? I've seen people say Luck should go #1 in startups.

In a larger league, 2QB, or Superflex you could definitely go that route, but in a 12 team, 1QB (even with the 6pt passing TDs) that would not be a wise decision. A player like Gronk (I feel) has more value due to the scarcity of points at the TE position.

[auggiedoggies]

Whoa really? Is it that big of a no brainer to trade Luck for Gronk? Can we just switch up the convo and just focus on that idea? I've seen people say Luck should go #1 in startups.

In a larger league, 2QB, or Superflex you could definitely go that route, but in a 12 team, 1QB (even with the 6pt passing TDs) that would not be a wise decision. A player like Gronk (I feel) has more value due to the scarcity of points at the TE position.

Yeah, I agree. In a 12 team league, the value just isn't there. Pretty simple, value based drafting and all that

[holy_stromboli]

Whoa really? Is it that big of a no brainer to trade Luck for Gronk? Can we just switch up the convo and just focus on that idea? I've seen people say Luck should go #1 in startups.

Thank you for bringing some sanity to this thread. Trading Luck for Gronk is very ill advised in a 12-team/1 QB league. You'd have to be high as a kite to do that.

[Matticus]

Whoa really? Is it that big of a no brainer to trade Luck for Gronk? Can we just switch up the convo and just focus on that idea? I've seen people say Luck should go #1 in startups.

Thank you for bringing some sanity to this thread. Trading Luck for Gronk is very ill advised in a 12-team/1 QB league. You'd have to be high as a kite to do that.

Gronk and Luck have nearly identical value IMO. Gronk plays a position where points are hard to come by, so I'd take him. I wouldn't fault anyone for taking either side. I don't smoke weed either....

[Tsunami]

Whoa really? Is it that big of a no brainer to trade Luck for Gronk? Can we just switch up the convo and just focus on that idea? I've seen people say Luck should go #1 in startups.

Gronk should go #1 in startups. Luck gets outscored by Rodgers, Wilson, Brees, Peyton on a regular basis. Gronk is king of TE points per game and has been for 3 of the last 4 years, only an injury slows him down. He is irreplaceable.

[ccj]

I'd take Gronk pretty easily given 12 team 1 qb and must start a TE.

[thrilljam]

It seems like instead of a Gronk vs. Luck debate, it is really Gronk & Cutler vs. Luck & Allen/Amaro/TE addition conversation. In a dynasty format, I take the youth and relatively safe Luck side of that comparison.

How close is Cutler from being cut or sent to another team with possible (probably?) a worse receiving game? How many years will Gronk continue to heavily outperform the other TEs? How long will Luck be a top 3-5 QB?

With those questions in mind, I keep Luck.